RE: Need answers soon

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,

The short answer.....yes to all.

Liquid is a liquid is a liquid...for the most part. Steer clear of

carbonated beverages. I will let myself have a diet Dr. Pepper every now

and then (It works out to only 1 a week, although I'm not really counting).

and the other long-timers will tell you the science behind WHY

carbonation is bad...and its good reasoning. (In my case, my taste for

cola's and such has changed and I just don't like 'em anymore!)

Peanut butter....small quantities. You have an excellent protein source

here....but high in Fat...you'll want to be careful of that. I do find

myself snacking, occasionally, on a celery stick with a little peanut butter

on it.

How long has it been since your surgery? You should get a tablet and start

tracking what you eat....monitor your calories, fat, protein, carbs,

etc..... You can get good source books in the dietary section of most book

stores. You'll want to know how much of that stuff your getting, and it

will be a good reference for when you approach your goal weight. Then

you'll want to know how many calories you need to maintain the weight you

want!

Hope this helps!

Jim Grimes

Salinas, CA.

Open RNY 11/27/02

441 / 310

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Need answers soon

I'm sure I've seen this one posted but I can't find the answer. When

I read that after surgery you should drink 64oz. of water - Does that

count sugar free iced tea or a chrystal light beverage? Does it count

a protein beverage mixed with water? Does it count skim milk?

After surgery does anyone eat peanut butter or does it stick? I am a

peanut butter junkie. I eat it every morning on a carmel corn rice

cake - just curious if it can be eaten ever again.

Carol R in PA

4-23-02

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[Guest guest]

Carol,

don't count the protein as water. I do count the crystal lite or sf ice tea

as my liquid but I also get in 64 oz of WATER. I don't drink skim milk.

The more water you get in the more it will help you stay full and help wit

the weight loss.

As for peanut butter one junkie to another I stay away from the jiffy &

skippy and eat the smuckers, its all natural and its reeeeeeeeally good.

You take away the carmel rice cake and put it on a cracker but you won't be

eating that right way.

Theresa

*The most beautiful things in the world can not be

seen or even touched. They must be felt with the

heart. ~Helen Keller~

Need answers soon

I'm sure I've seen this one posted but I can't find the answer. When

I read that after surgery you should drink 64oz. of water - Does that

count sugar free iced tea or a chrystal light beverage? Does it count

a protein beverage mixed with water? Does it count skim milk?

After surgery does anyone eat peanut butter or does it stick? I am a

peanut butter junkie. I eat it every morning on a carmel corn rice

cake - just curious if it can be eaten ever again.

Carol R in PA

4-23-02

294/ /140

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[Guest guest]

I don't know if I was supposed to but I ate bites of peanut butter pretty

much from the first week out. It looked to me like it would qualify as a

pureed food. Now that I look back I see that it could have been trouble, but

I tolerated it fine.

in WA

-- Need answers soon

I'm sure I've seen this one posted but I can't find the answer. When

I read that after surgery you should drink 64oz. of water - Does that

count sugar free iced tea or a chrystal light beverage? Does it count

a protein beverage mixed with water? Does it count skim milk?

After surgery does anyone eat peanut butter or does it stick? I am a

peanut butter junkie. I eat it every morning on a carmel corn rice

cake - just curious if it can be eaten ever again.

Carol R in PA

4-23-02

294/ /140

[Guest guest]

Yeah I would say it could have caused you problems. But knock on wood it

didn't. But I would try peanut butter until your on semi solids that way

you could have it on crackers or with something. I thought I was gonna lose

pb for good afterwards. My dad always told my husband if ya want to make

her happy always have pb on hand. mmmmm I think I'll go make a pb protein.

I have stop buying pb because I felt I was too addicted too it again, I

would make sure I would have room at the end of the evening for pb and

crackers. Now I'll turn to pb protein.

Theresa

*The most beautiful things in the world can not be

seen or even touched. They must be felt with the

heart. ~Helen Keller~

Need answers soon I'm sure I've seen this one posted but I can't find the

answer. When I read that after surgery you should drink 64oz. of water -

Does that count sugar free iced tea or a chrystal light beverage? Does it

count a protein beverage mixed with water? Does it count skim milk? After

surgery does anyone eat peanut butter or does it stick? I am a peanut

butter junkie. I eat it every morning on a carmel corn rice cake - just

curious if it can be eaten ever again. Carol R in PA 4-23-02 294/ /140

[Guest guest]

I have no problem with Peanut butter in small amounts ]

Need answers soon

I'm sure I've seen this one posted but I can't find the answer. When

I read that after surgery you should drink 64oz. of water - Does that

count sugar free iced tea or a chrystal light beverage? Does it count

a protein beverage mixed with water? Does it count skim milk?

After surgery does anyone eat peanut butter or does it stick? I am a

peanut butter junkie. I eat it every morning on a carmel corn rice

cake - just curious if it can be eaten ever again.

Carol R in PA

4-23-02

294/ /140

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[Guest guest]

Carol R. - I've heard the ladies on here talking about eating peanut butter

especially when they want to increase their protein. I think it may be a while

though before you can eat it postoperatively. Every individual is different.

So you don't have to mourn the loss of peanut butter, just take a vacation from

it for a while. Wishing you all the best on your upcoming surgery.

Jeanne in WI

Age 38

Open RNY 05/21/2002

314/ /150-175

5' 8 "

djgraves@...

Need answers soon

I'm sure I've seen this one posted but I can't find the answer. When

I read that after surgery you should drink 64oz. of water - Does that

count sugar free iced tea or a chrystal light beverage? Does it count

a protein beverage mixed with water? Does it count skim milk?

After surgery does anyone eat peanut butter or does it stick? I am a

peanut butter junkie. I eat it every morning on a carmel corn rice

cake - just curious if it can be eaten ever again.

Carol R in PA

4-23-02

294/ /140

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/14/02 10:12:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

carol_arre@... writes:

> After surgery does anyone eat peanut butter or does it stick? I am a

> peanut butter junkie. I eat it every morning on a carmel corn rice

> cake - just curious if it can be eaten ever again.

>

>

I am a month and a half post op and I eat peanut butter!

[Guest guest]

I'm sure I've seen this one posted but I can't find the answer. When

I read that after surgery you should drink 64oz. of water - Does that

count sugar free iced tea or a chrystal light beverage?

************ no, not tea or any caffeine beverages

Does it count

a protein beverage mixed with water?

*********** well, if you have to include that, NO. LOL! It probably counts

over & above, but if I do 6 - 8 oz proteins/day, I surely do not have 48 oz of

" water " for my body to use.

Does it count skim milk?

********** skim milk counts as candy, not as water

After surgery does anyone eat peanut butter or does it stick? I am a

peanut butter junkie.

************ PB is great in your protein shake, great on bread

I eat it every morning on a carmel corn rice

cake

************* how many g of sugar in each one of these? If about 4g per cake,

then yep, pour on the PB!

- just curious if it can be eaten ever again.

********* PB is good on a finger, if no one is looking. NO extra calories or

sugar that way!

Carol R in PA

4-23-02

294/ /140

[Guest guest]

, I may be way off the mark by saying this but forget about the protein

for a day and just get some liquids in you! Keep the water on your nite

stand

and sip it all night. Each time you wake up take a drink. I cant tell you

how

important it it. I never knew about protein post op until I was about 6

month

out and I did not have the advantage that protein gives us. My blood work

was fine so I did survive without the protein. But as soon as I found out

it was a necessary item I started drinking it. I drink it now 3 times a day.

Just please let me know you are getting lots of fluids in. You must force

yourself to drink. I was the same way. I did not want to eat or drink.

Felt like poop. I did not force myself and I ended in the hospital.

Yes they take a blood test to tell just how dehydrated you are.

I woke up in the middle of the night after feeling badly for a few days.

I just knew I was very sick and that I had to go to the hospital immediately.

It was a good thing that I did. I WOKE EVERYONE UP. I CALLED my

surgeon at 3 AM and told him I was going to hospital. He called instructios

ahead and saw me there at 7. Please by tomorrow morning let me know

you have had as much water in as you can handle. Im worried about

you! Hugs, in Pa.

[Guest guest]

Since I consider Peanut Butter a necessary food group, I tried it a

few days after surgery. I was sipping Crystal Light, and eating PB

off a spoon very slowly. My dh laughed at me, said my eyes were

rolling back in my head. No problem, just had to take it real

slooooow! Now I have PB on crackers, yummmm!

Can't tolerate milk of any kind,causes dumping. But cheese is OK.

Peggy Ann

>

>

>

> After surgery does anyone eat peanut butter or does it stick? I

am a

>

[Guest guest]

That's interesting that you can handle cheese but not milk. I just switched

to adding milk in my drinks because I am only getting down three instead of

5 per day. The doctor said to change to milk. Maybe that is part of my

problem. I stuck my finger in the PB today and it was heavenly

in California

Open RNY - 03/29/02

272.5/254 - as of 04/10/02

Re: Need answers soon

Since I consider Peanut Butter a necessary food group, I tried it a

few days after surgery. I was sipping Crystal Light, and eating PB

off a spoon very slowly. My dh laughed at me, said my eyes were

rolling back in my head. No problem, just had to take it real

slooooow! Now I have PB on crackers, yummmm!

Can't tolerate milk of any kind,causes dumping. But cheese is OK.

Peggy Ann

[Guest guest]

I haven't drank milk since surgery and today I wanted it so bad I thought I had

to have some and I poured about an inch in a glass and sipped it and I threw it

up I was never so happy since it was Candy . Needless to say I don't want any

more

Re: Need answers soon

Since I consider Peanut Butter a necessary food group, I tried it a

few days after surgery. I was sipping Crystal Light, and eating PB

off a spoon very slowly. My dh laughed at me, said my eyes were

rolling back in my head. No problem, just had to take it real

slooooow! Now I have PB on crackers, yummmm!

Can't tolerate milk of any kind,causes dumping. But cheese is OK.

Peggy Ann

[Guest guest]

You are too funny, but you're right, I have heard it has a lot of sugar. I

think I will stay away from milk. Right now I'm drinking something called

Myoplex. I bought it for the 20g of protein but just saw that it has 16g of

sugar.

I think I'm at a point of not wanting anything to eat or drink. I'm

drinking this because I should, but it tastes awful to me. These things

cost $3.00 each! I don't understand why I don't want ANYTHING at all.

in California

Open RNY - 03/29/02

272.5/254 - as of 04/10/02

Re: Need answers soon

I haven't drank milk since surgery and today I wanted it so bad I thought

I had to have some and I poured about an inch in a glass and sipped it and I

threw it up I was never so happy since it was Candy . Needless to say I

don't want any more

[Guest guest]

it is OK I don't want anything now but I do eat a bite here or there but

mostly drink water and protein and Vitamins.Get those liquids down first

TN

Re: Need answers soon

I haven't drank milk since surgery and today I wanted it so bad I thought

I had to have some and I poured about an inch in a glass and sipped it and I

threw it up I was never so happy since it was Candy . Needless to say I

don't want any more

[Guest guest]

It's funny how a few words can make you feel so much better. I think it's

water for the rest of the night. I can't get the protein down. Maybe

tomorrow I will be able to get back to my protein and vitamins.

I had this surgery to get healthy. Right now, I just wish protein wasn't

the main way.

Thanks ,

in California

Open RNY - 03/29/02

272.5/254 - as of 04/10/02

Re: Need answers soon

it is OK I don't want anything now but I do eat a bite here or there

but mostly drink water and protein and Vitamins.Get those liquids down

first

TN

[Guest guest]

you are so welcome I am working on fruit and nuts as mom directed I am trying to

be good too even when it is hard on us *sigh*

Re: Need answers soon

it is OK I don't want anything now but I do eat a bite here or there

but mostly drink water and protein and Vitamins.Get those liquids down

first

TN

[Guest guest]

Add PB, delete milk. If you had killer gas, that mighta been milk. If I get

into some accidentally, I'm on the floor screaming for 5 hours.

milk = sugar (lactose) and cheese does not have it! So, cheese, ctg cheese,

sour cream, crm cheese--those are all safe. The bad guys are milk & ice cream

Thanks,

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Re: Need answers soon

Since I consider Peanut Butter a necessary food group, I tried it a

few days after surgery. I was sipping Crystal Light, and eating PB

off a spoon very slowly. My dh laughed at me, said my eyes were

rolling back in my head. No problem, just had to take it real

slooooow! Now I have PB on crackers, yummmm!

Can't tolerate milk of any kind,causes dumping. But cheese is OK.

Peggy Ann

[Guest guest]

Myoplex is a meal replacement, not a " protein " . WAYYYYYY too much bulk, calories

& all for us.

Thanks,

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Re: Need answers soon

I haven't drank milk since surgery and today I wanted it so bad I thought

I had to have some and I poured about an inch in a glass and sipped it and I

threw it up I was never so happy since it was Candy . Needless to say I

don't want any more

[Guest guest]

, thank you for sharing about your experience and your concern for me.

I'm sorry you had to go through that, but it helps to know I'm not the

first. I feel very bad that I have taken up so much space here today. I

hope no one has kept quiet about something going on with them because of me.

I know everyone cares, thank God!, but it's weird being on this side of the

coin.

I was thinking today that maybe if I could find another way for a while I

would be able to get back to protein soon. I use to love it.

I promise I will continue to sip water all night. I have gotten another 8

ozs. down this afternoon and still sipping.

Hugs,

in California

Open RNY - 03/29/02

272.5/254 - as of 04/10/02

Re: Need answers soon

, I may be way off the mark by saying this but forget about the

protein

for a day and just get some liquids in you! Keep the water on your nite

stand

and sip it all night. Each time you wake up take a drink. I cant tell you

how

important it it. I never knew about protein post op until I was about 6

month

out and I did not have the advantage that protein gives us. My blood work

was fine so I did survive without the protein. But as soon as I found out

it was a necessary item I started drinking it. I drink it now 3 times a

day.

Just please let me know you are getting lots of fluids in. You must force

yourself to drink. I was the same way. I did not want to eat or drink.

Felt like poop. I did not force myself and I ended in the hospital.

Yes they take a blood test to tell just how dehydrated you are.

I woke up in the middle of the night after feeling badly for a few days.

I just knew I was very sick and that I had to go to the hospital

immediately.

It was a good thing that I did. I WOKE EVERYONE UP. I CALLED my

surgeon at 3 AM and told him I was going to hospital. He called

instructios

ahead and saw me there at 7. Please by tomorrow morning let me know

you have had as much water in as you can handle. Im worried about

you! Hugs, in Pa.

[Guest guest]

I can do maybe a drop or two to wet cereal...but thats it

I use vanilla yogurt in my cereal...instead of milk

At 11:11 PM 4/14/02, you wrote:

>I love milk, but it didn't always love me even before surgery. I had good

>days and bad days with it, but nothing severe. When the surgeon told me to

>use skim milk I thought maybe I could handle that.

>

>I had my moments of screaming last night. I've never had gas like that in

>my life. Reminded me of child birth. Every two minutes I had waves of

>pain. I think the Milk of Mags started the throwing up.

>

>Thanks again ,

>

> in California

>Open RNY - 03/29/02

>272.5/254 - as of 04/10/02

>

>

>

> Re: Need answers soon

>

>

> Add PB, delete milk. If you had killer gas, that mighta been milk. If I

>get into some accidentally, I'm on the floor screaming for 5 hours.

>

> milk = sugar (lactose) and cheese does not have it! So, cheese, ctg

>cheese, sour cream, crm cheese--those are all safe. The bad guys are milk &

>ice cream

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> <http://www.vitalady.com>http://www.vitalady.com

>

>

> For info on PayPal, click this link:

>

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>

> RE: Need answers soon

>

>

> That's interesting that you can handle cheese but not milk. I just

>switched

> to adding milk in my drinks because I am only getting down three instead

>of

> 5 per day. The doctor said to change to milk. Maybe that is part of my

> problem. I stuck my finger in the PB today and it was heavenly

>

> in California

> Open RNY - 03/29/02

> 272.5/254 - as of 04/10/02

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I love milk, but it didn't always love me even before surgery. I had good

days and bad days with it, but nothing severe. When the surgeon told me to

use skim milk I thought maybe I could handle that.

I had my moments of screaming last night. I've never had gas like that in

my life. Reminded me of child birth. Every two minutes I had waves of

pain. I think the Milk of Mags started the throwing up.

Thanks again ,

in California

Open RNY - 03/29/02

272.5/254 - as of 04/10/02

Re: Need answers soon

Add PB, delete milk. If you had killer gas, that mighta been milk. If I

get into some accidentally, I'm on the floor screaming for 5 hours.

milk = sugar (lactose) and cheese does not have it! So, cheese, ctg

cheese, sour cream, crm cheese--those are all safe. The bad guys are milk &

ice cream

Thanks,

http://www.vitalady.com

For info on PayPal, click this link:

https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

RE: Need answers soon

That's interesting that you can handle cheese but not milk. I just

switched

to adding milk in my drinks because I am only getting down three instead

of

5 per day. The doctor said to change to milk. Maybe that is part of my

problem. I stuck my finger in the PB today and it was heavenly

in California

Open RNY - 03/29/02

272.5/254 - as of 04/10/02

[Guest guest]

I knew the girl didn't know what she was talking about. I explained what I

needed, but I just couldn't concentrate enough to check it out. Just bought

the stuff. My daughter was with me, but she's sick, so we were a sad pair

today.

I'm going to get the other three and see if any of them are suitable. I

have Scan Diet, ABB Super Shake and Atkins Shake.

Thanks ,

in California

Open RNY - 03/29/02

272.5/254 - as of 04/10/02

Re: Need answers soon

Myoplex is a meal replacement, not a " protein " . WAYYYYYY too much bulk,

calories & all for us.

Thanks,

http://www.vitalady.com

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[Guest guest]

I haven't tried yogurt yet. Wasn't sure if it was ok this soon out (2

weeks).

Thanks!

in California

Open RNY - 03/29/02

272.5/254 - as of 04/10/02

RE: Need answers soon

I can do maybe a drop or two to wet cereal...but thats it

I use vanilla yogurt in my cereal...instead of milk

At 11:11 PM 4/14/02, you wrote:

>I love milk, but it didn't always love me even before surgery. I had

good

>days and bad days with it, but nothing severe. When the surgeon told me

to

>use skim milk I thought maybe I could handle that.

>

>I had my moments of screaming last night. I've never had gas like that

in

>my life. Reminded me of child birth. Every two minutes I had waves of

>pain. I think the Milk of Mags started the throwing up.

>

>Thanks again ,

>

> in California

>Open RNY - 03/29/02

>272.5/254 - as of 04/10/02

>

>

[Guest guest]

no i just put a couple spoonfuls of regular vanilla flavored yogurt in my

cereal..

and i like crunchy cereals

At 12:56 AM 4/15/02, you wrote:

>SIS are you talking about the new drinkable yogurt?

>

> RE: Need answers soon

>

>

> I can do maybe a drop or two to wet cereal...but thats it

> I use vanilla yogurt in my cereal...instead of milk

>

> At 11:11 PM 4/14/02, you wrote:

> >I love milk, but it didn't always love me even before surgery. I had

> good

> >days and bad days with it, but nothing severe. When the surgeon told me

> to

> >use skim milk I thought maybe I could handle that.

> >

> >I had my moments of screaming last night. I've never had gas like that

> in

> >my life. Reminded me of child birth. Every two minutes I had waves of

> >pain. I think the Milk of Mags started the throwing up.

> >

> >Thanks again ,

> >

> > in California

> >Open RNY - 03/29/02

> >272.5/254 - as of 04/10/02

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe the Adkins be careful girl if in doubt keep drinking water

Re: Need answers soon

Myoplex is a meal replacement, not a " protein " . WAYYYYYY too much bulk,

calories & all for us.

Thanks,

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