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The symptoms you describe do appear to be typical in autism. I think that

whenever you have clumsiness, there is inflammation in the brain-stem. With

homeopathy, each practitioner is so very different. Some allow supplements,

some don't. If you were to have a practitioner that doesn't allow supplements,

he/she may allow them once they feel the remedy is working. I think the first

month of using a new remedy is an important time to observe and see. I would

consult with your homeopath, and see what he/she thinks. I do think that

improvements with the surfactants might be mixed/confused with homeopath

improvements. Unfortunately, this journey is long, so there will be lots of

time to get in a lot of treatments before recovery comes.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

>

> Hello!

> I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very well versed

in healing the body.

>

> I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product since

hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my daughter

in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing classical

homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because it will

confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really believe in

homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to find the

right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much of a

crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is how

homeopathy works from my understanding.

>

> What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

>

> Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to see what you

think is going on:

>

> 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is rigid as if he

has to think of every word

>

> 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or tries to hug

them and gets too much in their space

>

> 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is clumsy, heavy

footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to space-out when he

walks.

>

> 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He ranges from

2-4 days between BMs.

>

> He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We tried

Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop. He

initially responded very well to Lutimax.

>

> THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> na

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Thanks Heidi! You always have good advice :)

My son's homeopath is of the mindset that homeopathy is all that is needed! On

the other hand, my homeopath believes there are many avenues to healing and that

homeopathy is just one of them. I am so impatient which makes the wait-and-see

nature of homeopathy daunting.

Thanks for the advice on the inflammation of the brainstem. I never thought of

that specifically. It makes sense though, sense he tends to do well on products

that decrease inflammation.

What are your thoughts on parasites? I am curious now because of my daughter's

experience. Does the body naturally rid itself of parasites if it is healthy?

In other words, are they only a problem for people with disturbed immunity?

Thanks!

na

> >

> > Hello!

> > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very well

versed in healing the body.

> >

> > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product since

hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my daughter

in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing classical

homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because it will

confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really believe in

homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to find the

right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much of a

crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is how

homeopathy works from my understanding.

> >

> > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> >

> > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to see what

you think is going on:

> >

> > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is rigid as if he

has to think of every word

> >

> > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or tries to hug

them and gets too much in their space

> >

> > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is clumsy, heavy

footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to space-out when he

walks.

> >

> > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He ranges

from 2-4 days between BMs.

> >

> > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We tried

Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop. He

initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> >

> > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > na

> >

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na,

My take on this....

Knowing the surfactants I don't know anyone that would not benefit from using

it. It is concidered a whole food...it is technically not a supplement....you

wouldn't stop feeding your child, homeopathy or not. I believe that w/adding

food that helps the bodies cells function better & oxygenates... & will actually

push the homeopathy further into the body (being natural like herbs & other

foods..it's a good thing to push further into the body) I'm personally of the

opionion that it would actually enhance the homeopathy helping it to work

better...that's my mom take. As a whole food....just think of it as adding

another really, really nutritious vegetable to the dinner table :o)....

Rita

> > >

> > > Hello!

> > > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very well

versed in healing the body.

> > >

> > > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product since

hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my daughter

in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing classical

homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because it will

confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really believe in

homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to find the

right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much of a

crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is how

homeopathy works from my understanding.

> > >

> > > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> > >

> > > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to see what

you think is going on:

> > >

> > > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is rigid as if

he has to think of every word

> > >

> > > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or tries to hug

them and gets too much in their space

> > >

> > > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is clumsy, heavy

footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to space-out when he

walks.

> > >

> > > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He ranges

from 2-4 days between BMs.

> > >

> > > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We tried

Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop. He

initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> > >

> > > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > > na

> > >

> >

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Thought of 1 other thing to add....the surfactant has good anti-inflammatory

properties.

An example of this is a lady I spoke w/that had Severe migranes...regularly she

had to wake her husband up in the middle of the night to give her injections due

to the severity of the migranes...within a couple of weeks on the surfactants

the migranes stopped & she has not needed an injection now for a couple of

years....it's been known to reduce seizures as well. I'm watching a WA family

right now with the seizure thing as I've just put them on the

surfactants....I'll report back on this as I further watch for myself the

seizure reductions.

Rita

> > > >

> > > > Hello!

> > > > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very well

versed in healing the body.

> > > >

> > > > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product since

hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my daughter

in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing classical

homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because it will

confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really believe in

homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to find the

right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much of a

crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is how

homeopathy works from my understanding.

> > > >

> > > > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> > > >

> > > > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to see

what you think is going on:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is rigid as

if he has to think of every word

> > > >

> > > > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or tries to

hug them and gets too much in their space

> > > >

> > > > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is clumsy,

heavy footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to space-out

when he walks.

> > > >

> > > > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He

ranges from 2-4 days between BMs.

> > > >

> > > > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We tried

Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop. He

initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> > > >

> > > > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > > > na

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Hi!

A few tips:

If there is clumsiness he almost certainly needs more magnesium. If that is not

enough, then you will probably have to add/increase vitamin B12 as well.

For general speech and interaction problems, that's pretty standard autism (as

has already been said) but you might want to try choline. That helped my son a

lot with communicating and interacting.

I was so interested in the surfactants discussion that, having started out

totally sceptical, I asked my Lyme doc about it and he prescribed me a

mitochondrial aupport supplement with surfactants to increase cell permeability.

It's called " NT Energy factor " and is made by Researched Nutritionals. It is

working really well, amazingly actually. The dowside is that it's really

expensive and that you have to get it prescribed by a doctor (even though its

nutrients not a drug - I don't understand that....)

Anyway, I don't see any harm in trying the surfactants with the homeopathy.

The one I am using, at any rate, is a gentle product, it's not doing anything

drastic to me, it's just stopping the painful buildup of lactic acid.

The whole idea of homeopathy is that you can use it alongside other forms of

medicine without getting interactions - at least that's what doctors think here

in Europe.

Well, that's my opinion!

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello!

> > > > > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very

well versed in healing the body.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product

since hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my

daughter in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing

classical homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because

it will confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really

believe in homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to

find the right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much

of a crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is

how homeopathy works from my understanding.

> > > > >

> > > > > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> > > > >

> > > > > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to see

what you think is going on:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is rigid as

if he has to think of every word

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or tries to

hug them and gets too much in their space

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is clumsy,

heavy footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to space-out

when he walks.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He

ranges from 2-4 days between BMs.

> > > > >

> > > > > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We tried

Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop. He

initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> > > > >

> > > > > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > > > > na

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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For my son, gross motor is always parasites.

>

> Hello!

> I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very well versed

in healing the body.

>

> I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product since

hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my daughter

in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing classical

homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because it will

confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really believe in

homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to find the

right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much of a

crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is how

homeopathy works from my understanding.

>

> What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

>

> Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to see what you

think is going on:

>

> 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is rigid as if he

has to think of every word

>

> 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or tries to hug

them and gets too much in their space

>

> 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is clumsy, heavy

footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to space-out when he

walks.

>

> 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He ranges from

2-4 days between BMs.

>

> He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We tried

Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop. He

initially responded very well to Lutimax.

>

> THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> na

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Thank you Caryn. I think many of his symptoms point to parasites (booo). I am

feeling a bit overwhelmed by it all. Have you been successful in treating

parasites? What did you use?

na

> >

> > Hello!

> > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very well

versed in healing the body.

> >

> > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product since

hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my daughter

in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing classical

homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because it will

confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really believe in

homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to find the

right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much of a

crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is how

homeopathy works from my understanding.

> >

> > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> >

> > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to see what

you think is going on:

> >

> > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is rigid as if he

has to think of every word

> >

> > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or tries to hug

them and gets too much in their space

> >

> > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is clumsy, heavy

footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to space-out when he

walks.

> >

> > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He ranges

from 2-4 days between BMs.

> >

> > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We tried

Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop. He

initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> >

> > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > na

> >

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,

That's very interesting about the mag and choline. I will check that out. Any

brands you recommend?

Also...I'm very excited to hear about the surfactant you are using. How long has

your son been using it for? What changes did you notice?

na

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello!

> > > > > > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very

well versed in healing the body.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product

since hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my

daughter in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing

classical homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because

it will confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really

believe in homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to

find the right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much

of a crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is

how homeopathy works from my understanding.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to

see what you think is going on:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is rigid

as if he has to think of every word

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or tries

to hug them and gets too much in their space

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is clumsy,

heavy footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to space-out

when he walks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He

ranges from 2-4 days between BMs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We

tried Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop.

He initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > > > > > na

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Thank you Rita!

You have been so helpful. I am thinking about the product still for my son. I

am pretty sure he will benefit from it, which is why I'm holding off until we

know for sure if his remedy is working. I still feel a big draw towards

homeopathy so I'm holding off in hopes that we will find the " magic cure " :))

It's hard to wait, though.

On another note, my daughter's expressive language has increased the last two

days pretty dramatically (since the surfactant). She is copying me and saying

more phrases. Her eyes look brighter, too.

na

> > > >

> > > > Hello!

> > > > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very well

versed in healing the body.

> > > >

> > > > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product since

hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my daughter

in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing classical

homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because it will

confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really believe in

homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to find the

right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much of a

crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is how

homeopathy works from my understanding.

> > > >

> > > > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> > > >

> > > > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to see

what you think is going on:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is rigid as

if he has to think of every word

> > > >

> > > > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or tries to

hug them and gets too much in their space

> > > >

> > > > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is clumsy,

heavy footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to space-out

when he walks.

> > > >

> > > > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He

ranges from 2-4 days between BMs.

> > > >

> > > > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We tried

Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop. He

initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> > > >

> > > > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > > > na

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Hi na,

Actually I'm taking the surfactants product myself. I have had Lyme for years

and I never give anything to my son without testing it on myself first!

I've been on it for nearly 2 weeks. It worked right from day 2 in giving me more

energy. I was getting burning legs from walking up a single flight of stairs,

for example, due to the lactic acid buildup. The tablets stopped that

completely. I've been going through normal daily activities with no burning

muscles at all. They have also improved brain fog problems, though not totally

eliminated them. I think brain fog has more than one cause, but in terms of

improving use of oxygen, the difference is tremendous.

I want to take about another 2 weeks before giving these to my son. There was no

initial nasty startup period, which you do get with a lot of supplements even if

they turn out to be helpful after a while.

The other thing that often happens is that things help marvellously for about 2

weeks, then start to make you feel poisoned.

The choline supplement I use is Solgar. That takes about a week for the effect

to start kicking in, and it continues to build up for several weeks before

reaching a plateau.

I have tried many different brands of magnesium and the variation in quality is

amazing. Most brands do nothing at all! I presume that means they are not

absorbable.

The best one by a huge margin is a German one called Magnesioform.

https://shop.formmed.de/Alle-Produkte/G-O/Magnesioform-Magnesioform-180-Kapseln.\

html

The quality of all their products is outstanding but unfortunately their website

is only in German! (I might be worth phoning them 069 / 768 05 698-22 since

most Germans speak English.)

If I don't have mag for three days, or switch to another brand, my coordination

deteriorates so badly that I fall down stairs repeatedly, trip over nothing,

constantly spill or drop things, and even sometimes walk into the door frame

instead of getting through the doorway.

I don't if you guys already know this, but borrelia penetrates the myelin sheath

protecting nerves (it cannot get right through to the actual nerve) and so the

body has to carry out a constant repair job. This requires vast amounts of

magnesium. As an adult I take 900mg a day, for children you can go up to 400mg a

day. Our Doctor told me to start my son (aged 5) on 150mg a day and build up by

100mg a day till his coordination was normal. For my son 150 is enough. It

doesn't take more than 2 days for the effect to kick in.

I hope this info is useful :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hello!

> > > > > > > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very

well versed in healing the body.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product

since hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my

daughter in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing

classical homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because

it will confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really

believe in homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to

find the right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much

of a crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is

how homeopathy works from my understanding.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to

see what you think is going on:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is

rigid as if he has to think of every word

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or

tries to hug them and gets too much in their space

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is

clumsy, heavy footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to

space-out when he walks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He

ranges from 2-4 days between BMs.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We

tried Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop.

He initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > > > > > > na

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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We have been treating parasites for years. First 2 years of mepron and

artemisiae then a year of flagyl. Since February we have used an ongoing parade

of things: clarkia formulas, alinia, pyrantel pomoate, ivermectin, albenza,

bilcitride, tindamax and mimosa pudica. We also use antibiotics, antifungals

and antivirals. All antiparasitics have brought gains. I find most symptoms

that I had previously believed to be yeast to actually be parasites. I also

suspect both valtrex and LDN to hit parasites in some way as well. Valtrex

eliminated the ammonia smell from his overnight urine and LDN reduces his full

moon night waking and causes teeth grinding whenever I increase the dose.

Furthermore, I think it is likely that the craving for alcohol comes from liver

flukes and LDN must therefore have activity against them.

Also, my personal gains from antiparasitics have been miraculous. I had

neuropathy in my feet that simply disappeared after a week on alinia and it also

resolved my incredible craving for chocolate.

Caryn

> > >

> > > Hello!

> > > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very well

versed in healing the body.

> > >

> > > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product since

hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my daughter

in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing classical

homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because it will

confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really believe in

homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to find the

right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much of a

crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is how

homeopathy works from my understanding.

> > >

> > > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> > >

> > > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to see what

you think is going on:

> > >

> > > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is rigid as if

he has to think of every word

> > >

> > > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or tries to hug

them and gets too much in their space

> > >

> > > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is clumsy, heavy

footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to space-out when he

walks.

> > >

> > > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He ranges

from 2-4 days between BMs.

> > >

> > > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We tried

Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop. He

initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> > >

> > > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > > na

> > >

> >

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Thank you Caryn for your reply. You must be a weatlh of information regarding

parasites with all that " experience " you've got under your belt!

I have a few question for you, if you've got some time.

1. Do most people require years of parasite treatment?

2. Does your son hold his gains between treatments or does he slip back which

prompts you to re-treat?

3. My son has a bloated tummy and chronic constipation. He has benefited from

the GAPS diet tremendously, but after a year on the diet, does this suggest

parasites?

4. My son was put on three days of Vermox (as a preventative)due to my daughters

pinworms. If he does have parasties, is this like trying to use a squirt gun to

put out a fire? Is there a next step I should take after the Vermox?

This may be a complete fluke but my son did really well at the park today. Less

falling, better running, and climbing. Could Vermox really be working this

quickly?

It's really intersting what you wrote about LDN. I've heard really good things

about that product. Is it working well for you?

Thanks again!

na

> > > >

> > > > Hello!

> > > > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very well

versed in healing the body.

> > > >

> > > > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product since

hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my daughter

in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing classical

homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because it will

confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really believe in

homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to find the

right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much of a

crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is how

homeopathy works from my understanding.

> > > >

> > > > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> > > >

> > > > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to see

what you think is going on:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is rigid as

if he has to think of every word

> > > >

> > > > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or tries to

hug them and gets too much in their space

> > > >

> > > > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is clumsy,

heavy footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to space-out

when he walks.

> > > >

> > > > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He

ranges from 2-4 days between BMs.

> > > >

> > > > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We tried

Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop. He

initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> > > >

> > > > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > > > na

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Hi !

Your response is so helpful..thank you. I am definitely going to try the

magnesium. I remember a few months ago Henry tested well for Magnesium/Calcium

and we were doing it for awhile and then stopped (maybe it wasn't a very good

kind). I will try the kind you recommend.

Wow...that's amazing how much magnesium can help your coordination.

I looked up the NT Factor Energy and found it at a few places online without a

prescription. You're right..it's expensive. I wonder if the quality is the

same as the one's you get from your doctor?

Thanks again for your advice! Keep me posted on your son's response to the NT

Factor Energy.

na

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hello!

> > > > > > > > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be

very well versed in healing the body.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant

product since hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done

for my daughter in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing

classical homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because

it will confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really

believe in homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to

find the right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much

of a crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is

how homeopathy works from my understanding.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms

to see what you think is going on:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is

rigid as if he has to think of every word

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or

tries to hug them and gets too much in their space

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is

clumsy, heavy footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to

space-out when he walks.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue.

He ranges from 2-4 days between BMs.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We

tried Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop.

He initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > > > > > > > na

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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I can't answer for most, just my son and I. We need to treat continously. The

meds realy only kill baby worms, not adult worms. If you treat continously with

meds you will stop the huge population of baby worms and avoid letting other

worms mature to lay eggs. The adult round worms can live around 8 years.

I imagine we will need to treat until they die off or find a way to kill them,

like high dose co Q 10, rife or ? Possibly high dose A?

I believe that I have adult worms living in my lymphatic system, primarily in my

legs. When I am on new meds for worms, I feel them flutter at night. I have

always had excess fluid in my legs. Even when I am very thin, socks would leave

heavy lines, as would crossing my legs.

As for protozoa, just like yeast, they come back as long as you are

immunocompromised. Treating them eliminates waxy ears, sound sensitivity, and

receptive language delays. I believe what many parents call yeast in the ears

is actually protozoa.

I believe that many of the nutritional deficiencies that we suffer are caused by

the worms stealing the nutrients.

Obviously this is not a wide spread opinion. It is possible that this is a rare

case of what my son and I have and most other families dealing with lyme and

autism do not. But, in the search to heal, I would highly recommend that

everyone run a trial of antiparasitic formula and if they see gains to dig much

deeper.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello!

> > > > > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very

well versed in healing the body.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product

since hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my

daughter in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing

classical homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because

it will confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really

believe in homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to

find the right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much

of a crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is

how homeopathy works from my understanding.

> > > > >

> > > > > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> > > > >

> > > > > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to see

what you think is going on:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is rigid as

if he has to think of every word

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or tries to

hug them and gets too much in their space

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is clumsy,

heavy footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to space-out

when he walks.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He

ranges from 2-4 days between BMs.

> > > > >

> > > > > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We tried

Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop. He

initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> > > > >

> > > > > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > > > > na

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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With what I've seen both on-list/off-list & for the last year with our group in

WA I now believe the surfactants will give you the best overall bang for your

buck for overall healing, we're finding them especially helpful in the parasite

issues...in addition you'll also get organ support, anti-viral & anti-bacterial

properties as the body overall works better.

immusist.com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello!

> > > > > > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be very

well versed in healing the body.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant product

since hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done for my

daughter in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing

classical homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because

it will confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really

believe in homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to

find the right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much

of a crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is

how homeopathy works from my understanding.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms to

see what you think is going on:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is rigid

as if he has to think of every word

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or tries

to hug them and gets too much in their space

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is clumsy,

heavy footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to space-out

when he walks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue. He

ranges from 2-4 days between BMs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories. We

tried Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop. He

initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > > > > > na

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Just a little update.

I'm putting the initiation of the NT Energy factor for my son on hold. He has

recently started vomiting every time he takes his supplements. He's OK with the

antibiotics, but the nutrients are making him horribly sick.

So we're suspending everything till we can figure this out :-(((

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hello!

> > > > > > > > > I really value the opinions here because everyone seems to be

very well versed in healing the body.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am starting to consider putting my son on the surfactant

product since hearing the positive reviews on here and seeing what it has done

for my daughter in a short amount of time. My dilemma is that my son is doing

classical homeopathy right now and it is best not to start anything new because

it will confuse the homeopath on the effectiveness of the remedy. I really

believe in homeopathy and it's powers to heal, but I know it can be difficult to

find the right remedy. The surfactant product, on the other hand, isn't as much

of a crapshoot. It seems that it stimulates the immune system to heal, which is

how homeopathy works from my understanding.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What would you guys do if you were in my situation?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also...I just wanted to write down my son's remaining symptoms

to see what you think is going on:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Difficulty with pragmatic language, expressive language is

rigid as if he has to think of every word

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Social skills are awkward- he either ignores other kids or

tries to hug them and gets too much in their space

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Motor skills are probably his biggest delay. Walking is

clumsy, heavy footed, hips seem loose, runs better than he walks. Seems to

space-out when he walks.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4. Despite a year of SCD/GAPS sluggish BMs are still an issue.

He ranges from 2-4 days between BMs.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He does well on colostrum, anti-virals, anti-inflammatories.

We tried Lutimax, but he could not handle the phenol load and so we had to stop.

He initially responded very well to Lutimax.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > THank you for any advice or thoughts you can give!!

> > > > > > > > > na

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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If you recently added zinc, that could do it. We had to start low and

work up.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

Just a little update.

I'm putting the initiation of the NT Energy factor for my son on hold.

He has recently started vomiting every time he takes his supplements.

He's OK with the antibiotics, but the nutrients are making him horribly

sick.

So we're suspending everything till we can figure this out :-(((

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