Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Oh my! Mine just kicks the back of the seat. In the house, though, she puts holes in walls and she is completely verbal and in regular school. So really I feel she is capable of keeping her anger in check if she wanted to. But, anyhow, I think if you give it enough thought, there has to be a way. I would look into special car seats or specially modified car seats for children like that. With enough Googling, you should be able to find places that even make stuff customized to fit each child's needs. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > Hi All; > > I am happy to be alive posting this! I just got out of the van with my violent/aggressive daughter. She threw a car seat at my head while I was driving. I am used to her throwing anything she can get her hands on while I'm driving, but this is a first. I am thanking God I didn't crash into anyone! > > Has anyone modified their car/van to put up a barrier between driver and passengers? I am thinking of the barrier police cars have between the front and back seat... > > I am also never able to have my other children in the car with her because she attacks them. I would love to have something to block off the third row van seat so when we absolutely NEED to travel together as a family I can keep everyone safe. > > If anyone has any suggestions I would be grateful! > > Thanks, > Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Thanks Heidi. Yes, have been googling and will continue to do so... Kim > > > > Hi All; > > > > I am happy to be alive posting this! I just got out of the van with my violent/aggressive daughter. She threw a car seat at my head while I was driving. I am used to her throwing anything she can get her hands on while I'm driving, but this is a first. I am thanking God I didn't crash into anyone! > > > > Has anyone modified their car/van to put up a barrier between driver and passengers? I am thinking of the barrier police cars have between the front and back seat... > > > > I am also never able to have my other children in the car with her because she attacks them. I would love to have something to block off the third row van seat so when we absolutely NEED to travel together as a family I can keep everyone safe. > > > > If anyone has any suggestions I would be grateful! > > > > Thanks, > > Kim > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 What about Plexy glass barrior with holes drilled thru it, too allow air to flow thru each side. This way you can also see your daughter and have a barrior between everyone. And its safe since it will not break, and hopefully she does not have anything to throw. > > > > Hi All; > > > > I am happy to be alive posting this! I just got out of the van with my violent/aggressive daughter. She threw a car seat at my head while I was driving. I am used to her throwing anything she can get her hands on while I'm driving, but this is a first. I am thanking God I didn't crash into anyone! > > > > Has anyone modified their car/van to put up a barrier between driver and passengers? I am thinking of the barrier police cars have between the front and back seat... > > > > I am also never able to have my other children in the car with her because she attacks them. I would love to have something to block off the third row van seat so when we absolutely NEED to travel together as a family I can keep everyone safe. > > > > If anyone has any suggestions I would be grateful! > > > > Thanks, > > Kim > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 My son once took his shoes off and threw them at my head while I was driving. his aim was deadly - the first knocked off my glasses and the second hit my temple so hard my head was thrown sideways and I swerved nearly into a lorry coming the other way. So yes, I really know how worried you are. Could you look into this sliding glass doors that they use in taxis? You can open them from the front but not the back. I think the only other alternative is those strong wire meshes people sometimes use if they habitually carry large dogs in the back of the car. They look horrible but they're cheaper. > > > > Hi All; > > > > I am happy to be alive posting this! I just got out of the van with my violent/aggressive daughter. She threw a car seat at my head while I was driving. I am used to her throwing anything she can get her hands on while I'm driving, but this is a first. I am thanking God I didn't crash into anyone! > > > > Has anyone modified their car/van to put up a barrier between driver and passengers? I am thinking of the barrier police cars have between the front and back seat... > > > > I am also never able to have my other children in the car with her because she attacks them. I would love to have something to block off the third row van seat so when we absolutely NEED to travel together as a family I can keep everyone safe. > > > > If anyone has any suggestions I would be grateful! > > > > Thanks, > > Kim > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Thanks for further replies. Yes, I am a nervous wreck when I'm driving... always hoping I didn't overlook any potential projectile. And yes, I've had shoes thrown at my head with deadly accuracy as well. At least I know what she's like so I'm somewhat on guard. Yes, I have thought about a plexiglass option. I like the idea that I can open from my side too. I have also thought about the dog gate option... just tough to get over the psychology of that choice though Price is definitely a factor. Kim > > > > > > Hi All; > > > > > > I am happy to be alive posting this! I just got out of the van with my violent/aggressive daughter. She threw a car seat at my head while I was driving. I am used to her throwing anything she can get her hands on while I'm driving, but this is a first. I am thanking God I didn't crash into anyone! > > > > > > Has anyone modified their car/van to put up a barrier between driver and passengers? I am thinking of the barrier police cars have between the front and back seat... > > > > > > I am also never able to have my other children in the car with her because she attacks them. I would love to have something to block off the third row van seat so when we absolutely NEED to travel together as a family I can keep everyone safe. > > > > > > If anyone has any suggestions I would be grateful! > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Kim > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 I had a child who did this. I had to keep the car meticulously clean, she would throw things at my head. Yes, in hindsight a cargo/workvan barrier sounds like a good idea and so does plexyglass. it probably destroys some of the safety of being able to get your child out in a fire and not being able to get to her. But then again, you are more likely to wreck from getting something thrown at your head at this point. I had a mirror that i could see what she was doing and this helped greatly, I could pull over when i saw the shoes coming off and her trying to get out of her seat. I spent many many hours pulled over at the side of the road while my child screamed her freaking headoff and threw things. I used the holding method and would say " you are having big emotions, I am going to stay with you until your big emotions are over " . I would pull over during these episodes. Same child is 13 now and has just began to start cutting herself after an incident with the swat team and police. Our over reactive police department got a prank call and held our family at gunpoint for an hour with a swat team, county and city police about sixty armed men with guns pointed at our family while we were handcuffed and detained. She was completely hysterical the entire time. She's been going crazy and trying to cut herself now. I am wanting to sue the police for excessive use of force to handcuff a child like this for an hour at gunpoint, but I can not find a lawyer that is not afraid of our police force. How is that for the midwest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 See, hand cuffs, duct tape, straight jackets, all these things are illegal, and dangit making a cage sounds very illegal also. You always hear of parents getting arrested for child abuse when they use a straight jacket, but no one ever considers that the child is throwing a carseat at your head while you are driving and the serious danger that poses to the entire family while in the car...There is extensive biomedical treatment a child would need and they might need medication, these are the only things considered appropriate as therapies. The natural medications, I would do a full on vitamin regimine and andy cutler chelation, and try lots of interventions biomedically....but until then...maybe consider a pschychiatrist. Maybe consider some meds until you can get to the point where you are on biomed. I just feel like all my children need more biomed than i can afford. So then you see moms using these methods, like this quote i got off the web for children who are out of control. instead this is what this mom used, and what is probably the typical mainstream way of handling an out of control child including major drugs: If your son doesn't receive occupational therapy through school or as an outpatient, it is a good thing to try. Weighted blankets, weighted vests, deep pressure clothing, brushing, and joint compressions are great for calming. If your pediatrician is not comfortable managing medication, they might refer you to a psychiatrist, even if your child is nonverbal like mine, which is totally appropriate. My boys have tried several things over the past six years, so I will share some of them with you: ADHD meds: Ritalin, Focalin--Ritalin was calming but my boys would not eat well on it. Focalin is similar to Ritalin but for my older son who tried it became more aggressive. Atypical antipsychotics: Abilify, Seroquel, Risperdal--one is currently on Abilify, one on Risperdal. These drugs stimulate appetite and can be sedating, which was good for my boys because they both had issues focusing and sleeping. Others: Clonidine--used as a blood pressure med in adults and for sleep in children or to calm during the day. Intuniv--a new drug, non-stimulating, just approved for ADHD. My 14 year old takes it, and we have seen a decrease in his recent aggression. I hope that answers your question, . I'm not trying to sway you, you know your son best, but I just wanted to share some of what we have tried with our boys so you can have an idea of what another parent has been through. Let me know if I can give any more info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 !!!How awful!!! OMG, l really can't understand this big abuse!!! I just heard from a mom whose ASD 15 yo son was handcuffed at school after hitting someone who had been abusing and bullying him for YEARS... Now the boy is constantly looking for a chance to kill himself. Where do you live exactly? Perhaps a friend of mine can help you w a group of lawyers specialized in defending SN people...I pray this behavior that resulted from such a traumatizing experience will go away soon!Love IsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 14:50:51 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: OT - Car safety I had a child who did this. I had to keep the car meticulously clean, she would throw things at my head. Yes, in hindsight a cargo/workvan barrier sounds like a good idea and so does plexyglass. it probably destroys some of the safety of being able to get your child out in a fire and not being able to get to her. But then again, you are more likely to wreck from getting something thrown at your head at this point. I had a mirror that i could see what she was doing and this helped greatly, I could pull over when i saw the shoes coming off and her trying to get out of her seat. I spent many many hours pulled over at the side of the road while my child screamed her freaking headoff and threw things. I used the holding method and would say " you are having big emotions, I am going to stay with you until your big emotions are over " . I would pull over during these episodes. Same child is 13 now and has just began to start cutting herself after an incident with the swat team and police. Our over reactive police department got a prank call and held our family at gunpoint for an hour with a swat team, county and city police about sixty armed men with guns pointed at our family while we were handcuffed and detained. She was completely hysterical the entire time. She's been going crazy and trying to cut herself now. I am wanting to sue the police for excessive use of force to handcuff a child like this for an hour at gunpoint, but I can not find a lawyer that is not afraid of our police force. How is that for the midwest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 As a matter of fact it is ironic how we are not allowed to handcuff a child, we are not allowed to straight jacket a child, we have to use every single method that is gentle and humane to get our children to behave in a safe manner...and how I have used every gentle method of parenting in the book for years on my child, and sat at the side of the road for hours holding my emotionally out of control child until her emotions passed, but the police can just handcuff them for an hour for no reason with guns pointed at them like it's nothing and get away with it...But I know right? It's unreal how police can handcuff my child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Hi ; Wow. I remember calling every resource I could one day to help when my child was particularly aggressive. Yes, they told me to call the police who would have probably cuffed her, took her to the hospital and pumped her with some drug to make her drool. I appreciate your input on meds you have tried (I`m the original poster who had the car seat thrown at my head). Yes, we have tried and are still using countless methods of biomed (over 8 years and hundreds of thousands of $$ later) and traditional ABA, OT, SLP etc etc. So hard to know what to do when nothing seems to work. A truly frightening and hopeless feeling when you are scared of what your severe child (incapable of any reasoning) may do to you or your family... and a seemingly innocent car ride can turn deadly FAST. Kim > > > As a matter of fact it is ironic how we are not allowed to handcuff a child, we are not allowed to straight jacket a child, we have to use every single method that is gentle and humane to get our children to behave in a safe manner...and how I have used every gentle method of parenting in the book for years on my child, and sat at the side of the road for hours holding my emotionally out of control child until her emotions passed, but the police can just handcuff them for an hour for no reason with guns pointed at them like it's nothing and get away with it...But I know right? It's unreal how police can handcuff my child. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 GirlsI met someone at my son's first SE school that had the same issues. Her son would jump at her throat if the car stopped. She had tried everything. I came to the idea of afixing a tightly spun volleyball net between the front seats and the rear seats (like a police car). She thought it was a good idea, fixed it from room, sides and floor of the car and it went pretty well. In case of emergency... Well, a simple swiss pocket knife would allow you to tear the net and help those in the back.BlessingsIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:59:27 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: OT - Car safety Hi ;Wow. I remember calling every resource I could one day to help when my child was particularly aggressive. Yes, they told me to call the police who would have probably cuffed her, took her to the hospital and pumped her with some drug to make her drool. I appreciate your input on meds you have tried (I`m the original poster who had the car seat thrown at my head).Yes, we have tried and are still using countless methods of biomed (over 8 years and hundreds of thousands of $$ later) and traditional ABA, OT, SLP etc etc. So hard to know what to do when nothing seems to work. A truly frightening and hopeless feeling when you are scared of what your severe child (incapable of any reasoning) may do to you or your family... and a seemingly innocent car ride can turn deadly FAST. Kim>> > As a matter of fact it is ironic how we are not allowed to handcuff a child, we are not allowed to straight jacket a child, we have to use every single method that is gentle and humane to get our children to behave in a safe manner...and how I have used every gentle method of parenting in the book for years on my child, and sat at the side of the road for hours holding my emotionally out of control child until her emotions passed, but the police can just handcuff them for an hour for no reason with guns pointed at them like it's nothing and get away with it...But I know right? It's unreal how police can handcuff my child.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 What a fantastic idea! And I like the fact that you can cut it in case of emergency. Thanks Isa Kim > > > > > > As a matter of fact it is ironic how we are not allowed to handcuff a child, we are not allowed to straight jacket a child, we have to use every single method that is gentle and humane to get our children to behave in a safe manner...and how I have used every gentle method of parenting in the book for years on my child, and sat at the side of the road for hours holding my emotionally out of control child until her emotions passed, but the police can just handcuff them for an hour for no reason with guns pointed at them like it's nothing and get away with it...But I know right? It's unreal how police can handcuff my child. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I hope you never need it but always keep the small swiss knife in your purse ;-), JIC, ok??? I am glad you find it doable!!!Blessings and light!!!IsaPS: I meant affix it from roof, sides and bottom... Not "room"...Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:25:53 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: OT - Car safety What a fantastic idea! And I like the fact that you can cut it in case of emergency. Thanks Isa :)Kim> >> > > > As a matter of fact it is ironic how we are not allowed to handcuff a child, we are not allowed to straight jacket a child, we have to use every single method that is gentle and humane to get our children to behave in a safe manner...and how I have used every gentle method of parenting in the book for years on my child, and sat at the side of the road for hours holding my emotionally out of control child until her emotions passed, but the police can just handcuff them for an hour for no reason with guns pointed at them like it's nothing and get away with it...But I know right? It's unreal how police can handcuff my child.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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