Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Most people either get well right away or take years to get well, and some never do get well. Those taking years to get well are doing many different things, from rotating to not rotating to rife to antibiotics, etc. So, it will depend on which treatment plan you use. I like using several things at the same time, but also like to rotate. I have to always take anti-inflammatories, so I am only rotating things to kill pathogens. I have no schedule. I just go by effects and plateaus. If you Google, Cowden, you will learn his ideas on rotating. If you Google, Buhner, you will learn how he says to just take the same stuff consistently. Others, kind of treat this then treat that, etc. I think most will start a treatment plan, then wait and see, then add or change depending upon the patient's reactions/improvements. (Note: I used last name only, and to advertise. Normally, we only use names when advertising their Conference or book, and sometimes their websites.) For me, I would start with Immusist and/or Enhansa since they help the body work well (see if your practitioner agrees). I have stayed on turmeric throughout this journey, and plan on staying on both Immusist and turmeric until the end of the journey. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > I have always had trouble keeping this stuff straight. Am I supposed to be rotating the naturals so that the bad stuff in the body doesn't grow tolerant of it? These are the naturals I am, or am going to soon, be using and am wondering if I can use them all at once and if I need to change it up- as in keep some things on for two weeks and then stop and bring some other things in for two weeks? Here is what I plan on using: OLE, Pau D'Arco, Enhansa, Uva Ursi, Goldenseal, LDM-100, Immusist, Salt-C. Thank you for any advice. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 My dr c trained practitioner has me on a 3 day rotation of lumbrokinase, serrapeptase and bromelain, a 12 day with one day off rotation of cumanda and Lakato, and 5 days on two days off of artemesiaaplex, vermaplex and VRM. Most people either get well right away or take years to get well, and some never do get well. Those taking years to get well are doing many different things, from rotating to not rotating to rife to antibiotics, etc. So, it will depend on which treatment plan you use. I like using several things at the same time, but also like to rotate. I have to always take anti-inflammatories, so I am only rotating things to kill pathogens. I have no schedule. I just go by effects and plateaus. If you Google, Cowden, you will learn his ideas on rotating. If you Google, Buhner, you will learn how he says to just take the same stuff consistently. Others, kind of treat this then treat that, etc. I think most will start a treatment plan, then wait and see, then add or change depending upon the patient's reactions/improvements. (Note: I used last name only, and to advertise. Normally, we only use names when advertising their Conference or book, and sometimes their websites.) For me, I would start with Immusist and/or Enhansa since they help the body work well (see if your practitioner agrees). I have stayed on turmeric throughout this journey, and plan on staying on both Immusist and turmeric until the end of the journey. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > I have always had trouble keeping this stuff straight. Am I supposed to be rotating the naturals so that the bad stuff in the body doesn't grow tolerant of it? These are the naturals I am, or am going to soon, be using and am wondering if I can use them all at once and if I need to change it up- as in keep some things on for two weeks and then stop and bring some other things in for two weeks? Here is what I plan on using: OLE, Pau D'Arco, Enhansa, Uva Ursi, Goldenseal, LDM-100, Immusist, Salt-C. Thank you for any advice. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 We'll the post that I just spent over an hour doing seems to have went into never never land...drives me crazy that I forgot to copy it before hitting the send button ...I'll try & recreate as best I can... I fully concur with Heidi...we go with effects and plateaus & rely heavily on our well trained drs/ART. Since there are varying docs/opinions, for my sons individual protocol we rely heavily on individualizing it with ART & let his body dictate what is best. I also fully concur with Heidi & encourage you to start the Immusist 1st.... & do not start anything else that you are not already on...even if you have been on it several months back. Immusist is very safe & effective by itself. When starting it, do not change anything else....have it be the only variable...this includes both starting & ramping up the dose...if it takes 1 or 2 months to do that then so be it. After you are fully stable on it, then you can work on adding/changing other things. This includes things like LDM-100...if you have not been on it in the last couple of weeks, do not start it now....wait till you've stablized on the Immusist. I remember you said you've successfully used LDM-100 in the past, that's great...but right now for the sake of pinpointing his reactions to changes, if he's not been on it, don't start it now...wait till he stablizes on the Immusist. When you do start it, restart the lower dose of LDM-100 for about 5 days then work up again. My #1 recommendation is DO NOT start the Salt-C yet as you are adding in to many variables...each w/their own possible reactions. When looking into the Salt-C a few years back for my son, I looked at both the positive & negative reactions (including some potential long term side effects), & though I admire some that have successfully used it, ended up deciding against it for my young son....I ended up finding other things that fit our needs. The main reason I'm recommending you wait is with the year of experience with our WA group I fully believe that Immusist is far gentler, works & supports better & I fully believe it will be more effective for you. Per our ART testing, we've ended up staying on base things (body nurishers like vits/minerals/good fats like fish oils/MB12/probiotics) then rotated as his layer dictates extra killers/supports/binders. As part of our base support we have used Cell Salts though....our herbalist started us on Hylands BioPlasma (12 cell salts) & we also use the #8 Mag Phos...these have been a base for a while now...he ART tests very well for them. Once again, my biggest recommendation is to not start things around each other...give yourself time to stabalize on products & dose so you can see what's going on. The Immusist alone w/what base you are currently on is where I'd personally recommend you begin your new changes. Blessings, Rita > > > > > > I have always had trouble keeping this stuff straight. Am I supposed to be rotating the naturals so that the bad stuff in the body doesn't grow tolerant of it? These are the naturals I am, or am going to soon, be using and am wondering if I can use them all at once and if I need to change it up- as in keep some things on for two weeks and then stop and bring some other things in for two weeks? Here is what I plan on using: OLE, Pau D'Arco, Enhansa, Uva Ursi, Goldenseal, LDM-100, Immusist, Salt-C. Thank you for any advice. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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