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This is crazy! Pills that don't dissolve? Why am I spending my $ to send

something thru my GI tract? Who would've thunk it? At least my Dittopan now

gets rubbed on my skin. I knew the generic Ditropan XL was a POS (pill of

$#!t -LOL), but that is ridiculous. Oh well.

Jenn

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Rick, doesnt surprise me at all. When I was able to work (RN) one of my

positions was doing conscious sedation during colonoscopies. You would be

AMAZED at how many pills we found totally undisolved in the

bowel....everthing from BP pills to vitamins.

Subject: Ditropan

To: tetheredspinalcord

Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 2:17 AM

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The reason is that it does not digest or break down properly. I found

some undigested tablets in my stool. At first my doc said they were just

'shit stones' but they tested to be the oxybutynin.

Rick

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There's been a lot of talk of this across the boards, specifically relating to

Ditropan ER. When Sofia got a temp. ileostomy at her last surgery in Nov. she

had a bag blowout during the first week or so and I found an ER pill. They told

me what I had found was probably the undigested shell. Lucky for me I had opened

the nasty little sucker and it was filled with the white powder! (It only took a

minute of internet research to inform me that ileo patients shouldn't take

extended release tabs.) But we've been hearing of IA kids who's tabs have been

hanging out in their colons, one had nine days worth.

Anyway, we put Sofia back on the liquid form, and good thing we did...before the

ditropan she was headed for a bladder augment. The ditropan worked so well for

her, the augment is off the table! : ) But I shudder to think what might have

been had I not found the tablet and she had continued on it for these past four

months!

I also found out that there is a regular ditropan pill on the market that is not

coated, so we may try that after her surgery next month. Right now, I'm not

willing to take any chances. AND the pedi uros at Boston are researching how to

improve delivery and absorption of ditropan infused directly into the bladder.

Apparently it works well now for some but not all patients. Their goal is to

eliminate the need for oral ditropan altogether. Yay!

Stacey

mom to Sofia age 5 VACTERL

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> Subject: Ditropan

> To: tetheredspinalcord

> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 2:17 AM

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> The reason is that it does not digest or break down properly. I found

> some undigested tablets in my stool. At first my doc said they were just

> 'shit stones' but they tested to be the oxybutynin.

>

> Rick

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Oh my goodness! I am SO glad you found that pill and checked it out for

yourself! You saved Sophia a major surgery! WOOOT 

Subject: Re: undissolved pills

To: tetheredspinalcord

Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 9:40 AM

 

There's been a lot of talk of this across the boards, specifically relating to

Ditropan ER. When Sofia got a temp. ileostomy at her last surgery in Nov. she

had a bag blowout during the first week or so and I found an ER pill. They told

me what I had found was probably the undigested shell. Lucky for me I had opened

the nasty little sucker and it was filled with the white powder! (It only took a

minute of internet research to inform me that ileo patients shouldn't take

extended release tabs.) But we've been hearing of IA kids who's tabs have been

hanging out in their colons, one had nine days worth.

Anyway, we put Sofia back on the liquid form, and good thing we did...before the

ditropan she was headed for a bladder augment. The ditropan worked so well for

her, the augment is off the table! : ) But I shudder to think what might have

been had I not found the tablet and she had continued on it for these past four

months!

I also found out that there is a regular ditropan pill on the market that is not

coated, so we may try that after her surgery next month. Right now, I'm not

willing to take any chances. AND the pedi uros at Boston are researching how to

improve delivery and absorption of ditropan infused directly into the bladder.

Apparently it works well now for some but not all patients. Their goal is to

eliminate the need for oral ditropan altogether. Yay!

Stacey

mom to Sofia age 5 VACTERL

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> Subject: Ditropan

> To: tetheredspinalcord

> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 2:17 AM

>

> .

> The reason is that it does not digest or break down properly. I found

> some undigested tablets in my stool. At first my doc said they were just

> 'shit stones' but they tested to be the oxybutynin.

>

> Rick

> .

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Awww I bet she's so cute! LOL   That does seem odd if the " same " med looks

differently, I dont know it seems like no matter who sold it, it would look the

same. I sure hope its working too and that her bladder looks AWESOME!  Many

Blessings,

Subject: Re: undissolved pills

To: tetheredspinalcord

Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 1:32 PM

 

Hahaha! Thanks, , that does deserve a WOOOT!!!

Or as Sofia likes to say, " Whew! That was close! " ; )

Now whenever I hear parents talk about their children not getting good results

on the ditropan, I'm always skeptical of the med. It seems way too persnickity

and not always reliable. I even get nervous about the liquid I give

Sofia...Walmart's and the stuff we got in Cinci were kinda' bright blue. I had

to switch to PathMark one day because WM was out and I needed it bad, but theirs

is very light blue. In the back of my mind, I'm always wondering if the stuff is

working. I guess we'll know for sure when they do her surgery next month.

Hopefully her bladder will look great!

Stacey

mom to Sofia age 5 VACTERL

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> > From: Rick <rick_lists@>

> > Subject: Ditropan

> > To: tetheredspinalcord

> > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 2:17 AM

> >

> > .

> > The reason is that it does not digest or break down properly. I found

> > some undigested tablets in my stool. At first my doc said they were just

> > 'shit stones' but they tested to be the oxybutynin.

> >

> > Rick

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The Pathmark paperwork said it should be 'light aqua' but I think I'm going to

look into it a little more, just for peace of mind! I'll post a pic of my

princess for you all. : )

Stacey

mom to Sofia age 5, VACTERL

> > >

> > > From: Rick <rick_lists@>

> > > Subject: Ditropan

> > > To: tetheredspinalcord

> > > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 2:17 AM

> > >

> > > .

> > > The reason is that it does not digest or break down properly. I found

> > > some undigested tablets in my stool. At first my doc said they were just

> > > 'shit stones' but they tested to be the oxybutynin.

> > >

> > > Rick

> > > .

> > >

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*My son is 10 years old, and he has been on liquid ditropan for about a

year. It has always been a light blue color liquid. ( I get his from CVS or

Target)*

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* :)

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> The Pathmark paperwork said it should be 'light aqua' but I think I'm going

> to look into it a little more, just for peace of mind! I'll post a pic of my

> princess for you all. : )

>

> Stacey

> mom to Sofia age 5, VACTERL

>

>

> > > >

> > > > From: Rick <rick_lists@>

> > > > Subject: Ditropan

> > > > To: tetheredspinalcord

> > > > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 2:17 AM

> > > >

> > > > .

> > > > The reason is that it does not digest or break down properly. I found

> > > > some undigested tablets in my stool. At first my doc said they were

> just

> > > > 'shit stones' but they tested to be the oxybutynin.

> > > >

> > > > Rick

> > > > .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Different stores use different manufacturers & each mfgs meds look different.

Jenn

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> *My son is 10 years old, and he has been on liquid ditropan for about a

> year. It has always been a light blue color liquid. ( I get his from CVS or

> Target)*

> **

> * :)

> *

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>>

>>

>> The Pathmark paperwork said it should be 'light aqua' but I think I'm going

>> to look into it a little more, just for peace of mind! I'll post a pic of my

>> princess for you all. : )

>>

>> Stacey

>> mom to Sofia age 5, VACTERL

>>

>>

>>>>>

>>>>> From: Rick <rick_lists@>

>>>>> Subject: Ditropan

>>>>> To: tetheredspinalcord

>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 2:17 AM

>>>>>

>>>>> .

>>>>> The reason is that it does not digest or break down properly. I found

>>>>> some undigested tablets in my stool. At first my doc said they were

>> just

>>>>> 'shit stones' but they tested to be the oxybutynin.

>>>>>

>>>>> Rick

>>>>> .

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

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Thank you, Jenn and ! : )

Stacey

mom to Sofia age 5, VACTERL

> >>>>>

> >>>>> From: Rick <rick_lists@>

> >>>>> Subject: Ditropan

> >>>>> To: tetheredspinalcord

> >>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 2:17 AM

> >>>>>

> >>>>> .

> >>>>> The reason is that it does not digest or break down properly. I found

> >>>>> some undigested tablets in my stool. At first my doc said they were

> >> just

> >>>>> 'shit stones' but they tested to be the oxybutynin.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Rick

> >>>>> .

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

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