Re: Surfactant (Question for Rita)

[Guest guest]

(Heidi, adding my 2-cents) My body also reacts to the immusist the same way it

does when I take things to rid metals, but the Immusist is much gentler. I

found the Immusist works more and more over time, which I really like. When I

was taking 16 drops twice a day, I felt the greatest I had felt in a long time.

I stopped taking my other supplements just to see what would happen, and I got

my fatigue back. So, it works in addition, quite well, but I can't use it only

and get the good results; although, I can take less of other things if I take

the Immusist. I am taking less Immusist now, so the bottle will last longer.

It makes me cough about an hour after I take it. I only cough for a few

seconds. Coincidentally, the docs said my lung x-rays were abnormal, for many

years now, but just say it's probably scar tissue from childhood. I never had

pneumonia, so I don't think it's from that. Anyhow, I am hoping the Immusist is

kind of working on that abnormal spot because it feels like something is

clearing up when I cough.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

My questions

Is this a metal detoxfying product ?

[Guest guest]

Thanks Heidi.

I have not taking it today as it made me feel too tired yesterday, but good in

the kidney/bladder area, so I make try one drop tomorrow and see what results I

see.

I think I had a very bad detox reaction using 3 drops as I could be too toxic,

so I might need less at the moment and will increase slowly according to

tolerance.

Good to hear you feel good when on a high dose, unfortunately is dear and at

that dose it does not last long.

I think it is an antibacterial as well and it make kill be killing viruses that

you may have hiden somewhere in your system , I think this product is good and

worth it to give it a try.

Olga

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> (Heidi, adding my 2-cents) My body also reacts to the immusist the same way it

does when I take things to rid metals, but the Immusist is much gentler. I

found the Immusist works more and more over time, which I really like. When I

was taking 16 drops twice a day, I felt the greatest I had felt in a long time.

I stopped taking my other supplements just to see what would happen, and I got

my fatigue back. So, it works in addition, quite well, but I can't use it only

and get the good results; although, I can take less of other things if I take

the Immusist. I am taking less Immusist now, so the bottle will last longer.

It makes me cough about an hour after I take it. I only cough for a few

seconds. Coincidentally, the docs said my lung x-rays were abnormal, for many

years now, but just say it's probably scar tissue from childhood. I never had

pneumonia, so I don't think it's from that. Anyhow, I am hoping the Immusist is

kind of working on that abnormal spot because it feels like something is

clearing up when I cough.

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> Love and prayers,

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> Heidi N

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> My questions

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> Is this a metal detoxfying product ?

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[Guest guest]

Yes, it is metals detoxifying *

Yes it is also anti-bacterial, anti-viral, anti-microbial, anti-fungal (I will

post up in the next couple of days a combined accumulation of Pubmeds that I've

been working on that supports surfactants use with these properties). The

surfactants in this product are specifically chosen for their properties use to

assist our immune system to help with these things. Of the 5,000 surfactants

available, the combination of the 80+ in this product make it a superstar on the

top of the surfactants & superfoods list. I have been blessed to use/support

many really cool products, this product is at the top of the list.

It Does Not Cure Anything….It Helps The Immune System To Function Better so

the Immune system can decide for itself what is the biggest stress to the body

that it feels it can deal with…it also helps expose the toxins so the immune

system will go after them. When the Immune system sees an invader it will go

after it…given it has enough energy to deal with it, it will mount a defense &

try to remove the invader….our peeling onion layer comes into play. It will

assist the immune system to go after a myriad of problems, old (as in Heidi's) &

new as it feels the energy & need to help improve the health of our body.

We have also had to stay on many of our supplements as our immune system still

needs the support of other things to give the cell what it needs to fight our

difficult/toxic systems, we've even had to add some new stuff to help

support his immune system & the detox it has engaged…we've also found in the

long run we've been able to reduce certain things as the system stabilizes to a

point that the cell can manage with less supports.

Olga, what comes to mind as a recommendation is make sure you have enough

binders on board to mop up *. Also, make sure you are giving your cells enough

energy to carry you further because detox is hard work for the body. Some things

that I do to boost my energy is taking EmergenC & my vits with the surfactants

to further energize the cell.

To further help me expedite this explanation, I'm just going to copy a post I

did on another list:

" Now on to binders for you. The way we generally use binders is as a " mopping

up " agent. When killing things toxins can be stirred up/dumped. The binders

assist the body in capturing & removing them from the body.

One of the best explanations of this toxin dumping I've found is Stan's

" Comprehensive Anti-viral Approach " that can be found on TACA's website:

http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/a-comprehensive-antiviral-approach/

There are many binders, in fact on the BorreliaMultipleInfectionsandAutism group

there have been whole threads as we worked as a group to put together info on

binders-what & why.

The binders that my son has been successfully on for a few years now have been

BioPures Chlorella (link w/info):

http://stores.homestead.com/BiopureHealingProducts/Detail.bok?no=1

Also, here's a good write up on Chlorella:

http://www.defeatautismyesterday.com/KlinghartNeurotoxinProtocol.htm

We also use Alfalfa which is also a binder, high in minerals & vitamins).

In regards to the stim, if I remember right I think it was this group that just

had a whole thread on stimming. What we've generally noticed in our WA group ( &

in my child) is that as you kill things, the metals dump alone will sometimes

cause extra stimming...if the stimming comes when you're killing things, putting

extra binders on board will generally help.

Not to write a book here, but I've found as I've chelated, I could pretty much

peg the metal he was dumping the most @ the time by his behaviors...if he is

mouthing more, drooling more, hand flapping or toe walking more, consider

looking at mercury movement.

* For us, it's taken years to move out mercury, but his current DD Hair report

has him excreting out mercury at his highest ever (in the yellow @ .63). Several

years ago I did some research on toxic metals sources & symptoms then did a

paper on the findings. I used everything from the lab test write-ups (some of

the best were the Doctors Data...he was deranged in so many things I had a

pretty wide spectrum pool of info).

Here's from my notes on mercury:

" Early signs of mercury exposure include decreased sense of touch, hearing,

vision and taste, fatigue, increased salivation. Moderate exposure symptoms

include numbness in mouth and extremities, headaches, hypertension, irritability

and excitability, immune suppression. Advanced exposure includes tremors,

in-coordination, anemia, psychoses, manic behaviors, autoimmune disorders, renal

dysfunction or failure.

July, 2000 Testimony before US House of Representatives: Mercury poisoning side

affects " include the defining characteristics of autism - sensory disturbances

such as numbness in the extremities and mouth, aversion to touch, and unusual

response to noise; movement disorders like toe-walking, hand flapping,

clumsiness, and chor movements; and cognitive impairments in specific domains

like short-term verbal and auditory memory and in understanding abstract ideas. "

* My son is also excreting out Arsenic (in the yellow @ .081).

Here's Arsenic's symptom notes:

Headaches, drowsiness, confusion, weakness, or skin problems.

If you further want any of my sources & symptoms research notes just let me

know, I'll be glad to post them up.

To me the coolest part of all of this is even w/the high levels of mercury &

arsenic that he's moving out, after so many years he's finally out of his

mineral derangement pattern. The only thing I really added to my base

protocol/good diet this year has been the surfactants which I believe has been

the most instrumental part of this years additional healing.

Of note, as with any other BioMedical intervention, please do not change or add

a bunch of stuff when starting this product. "

I'm tired right now….in the next couple of days I hope to find & bring forward

the binders list this group did a while back. I also what to get someone to help

me scan 's DD reports from the last 3 years to put them up to the

group…think you'd find them interesting….

Hope this helps some….

Rita

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> > (Heidi, adding my 2-cents) My body also reacts to the immusist the same way

it does when I take things to rid metals, but the Immusist is much gentler. I

found the Immusist works more and more over time, which I really like. When I

was taking 16 drops twice a day, I felt the greatest I had felt in a long time.

I stopped taking my other supplements just to see what would happen, and I got

my fatigue back. So, it works in addition, quite well, but I can't use it only

and get the good results; although, I can take less of other things if I take

the Immusist. I am taking less Immusist now, so the bottle will last longer.

It makes me cough about an hour after I take it. I only cough for a few

seconds. Coincidentally, the docs said my lung x-rays were abnormal, for many

years now, but just say it's probably scar tissue from childhood. I never had

pneumonia, so I don't think it's from that. Anyhow, I am hoping the Immusist is

kind of working on that abnormal spot because it feels like something is

clearing up when I cough.

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> > Love and prayers,

> >

> > Heidi N

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> >

> > My questions

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> > Is this a metal detoxfying product ?

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[Guest guest]

In re-reading your ?'s looks like I forgot some....sorry there was a lot that

came to mind with the interactions...

There is not 1 time that's better than another...I personally like to dose it in

the am for all of my family with our vits & EmergenC...then gets his

bigger dose split up before breakfast + before dinner, both times he gets

w/binders...it's just easier on us

The most important thing is drinking w/a full glass of water...I personally dose

w/minerals & natural herbs to push them further in assisting the bodies detox

...... & I'd dose away from rx drugs by +/- an hour as to not interfere w/the

drug.

For you, I'd do 2-3 drops 1x a day dosed w/good binders to mop up that metals

dump (look @ the renal stress as a mercury toxic symptom...) & add w/it

something natural to help you energize your cells...

Remember, detoxing is in itself hard work for the body...I think it's exciting

to have the body feeling engaged enough to try & get rid of some really toxic

stuff...looks like we just need to help it out some.

Hope I got it all now to help you further....

Rita

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> > > (Heidi, adding my 2-cents) My body also reacts to the immusist the same

way it does when I take things to rid metals, but the Immusist is much gentler.

I found the Immusist works more and more over time, which I really like. When I

was taking 16 drops twice a day, I felt the greatest I had felt in a long time.

I stopped taking my other supplements just to see what would happen, and I got

my fatigue back. So, it works in addition, quite well, but I can't use it only

and get the good results; although, I can take less of other things if I take

the Immusist. I am taking less Immusist now, so the bottle will last longer.

It makes me cough about an hour after I take it. I only cough for a few

seconds. Coincidentally, the docs said my lung x-rays were abnormal, for many

years now, but just say it's probably scar tissue from childhood. I never had

pneumonia, so I don't think it's from that. Anyhow, I am hoping the Immusist is

kind of working on that abnormal spot because it feels like something is

clearing up when I cough.

> > >

> > > Love and prayers,

> > >

> > > Heidi N

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > My questions

> > >

> > > Is this a metal detoxfying product ?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rita,

You are great!!

I really appreciate all the information you have given me and will follow it to

the dot as I have the feeling this is what my body needs to get rid of all the

toxicity that has been bothering my kidneys since the amalgam removal.

I do realize now that what this product did to me yesterday was fantastic,

because even when I have taken other products for detoxification I have never

experienced anything like this before when taken other chelating products (

which had been many).

I was much better today but wanted to give my body a break and hear from you and

others before restarting again.

It is very clear that my body needs to detoxify and that this is the product to

go for.

I do have some of the binders you mention at home so tomorrow is the day I will

go for it again.

Thanks again for such a great explanation.

Olga

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> > > > (Heidi, adding my 2-cents) My body also reacts to the immusist the same

way it does when I take things to rid metals, but the Immusist is much gentler.

I found the Immusist works more and more over time, which I really like. When I

was taking 16 drops twice a day, I felt the greatest I had felt in a long time.

I stopped taking my other supplements just to see what would happen, and I got

my fatigue back. So, it works in addition, quite well, but I can't use it only

and get the good results; although, I can take less of other things if I take

the Immusist. I am taking less Immusist now, so the bottle will last longer.

It makes me cough about an hour after I take it. I only cough for a few

seconds. Coincidentally, the docs said my lung x-rays were abnormal, for many

years now, but just say it's probably scar tissue from childhood. I never had

pneumonia, so I don't think it's from that. Anyhow, I am hoping the Immusist is

kind of working on that abnormal spot because it feels like something is

clearing up when I cough.

> > > >

> > > > Love and prayers,

> > > >

> > > > Heidi N

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> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My questions

> > > >

> > > > Is this a metal detoxfying product ?

> > > >

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