Re: Conceiving risk after Lyme treatment - please help!

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Hello,

I am new member to this group. I have been diagnosed with possible lyme disease

and I am on one month Anti-biotic course.

I have a question about conceiving after completing the treatment and what

chances/risk I have with still having baby affected by it. Any insight into

experience with such cases will help me ease my anxiety.

Should I wait for some time after completing the antibiotic treatment? Should I

get tested again? Which test to rule out Lyme?

Thank you,

Shruti.

[Guest guest]

Who told you that you would be rid of lyme in a month? I have been treating for

years.

Caryn

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> Hello,

>

> I am new member to this group. I have been diagnosed with possible lyme

disease and I am on one month Anti-biotic course.

>

> I have a question about conceiving after completing the treatment and what

chances/risk I have with still having baby affected by it. Any insight into

experience with such cases will help me ease my anxiety.

>

> Should I wait for some time after completing the antibiotic treatment? Should

I get tested again? Which test to rule out Lyme?

>

> Thank you,

> Shruti.

>

[Guest guest]

You should check out Dr. DVD from the 2011 conference in Toronto-

- sorry, can't remember the website where to order-

He suggests there is a 50% chance of passing it- perhaps more if choosing to

breast feed, because it can be passed breastmilk.

He also reccomends antibiotics while pregnant (2 I think, for the best chance)

and also to stay on them if you choose to BF.

I have also heard you can test the cord blood.

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> Hello,

>

> I am new member to this group. I have been diagnosed with possible lyme

disease and I am on one month Anti-biotic course.

>

> I have a question about conceiving after completing the treatment and what

chances/risk I have with still having baby affected by it. Any insight into

experience with such cases will help me ease my anxiety.

>

> Should I wait for some time after completing the antibiotic treatment? Should

I get tested again? Which test to rule out Lyme?

>

> Thank you,

> Shruti.

>

[Guest guest]

If you are PG, please get with a LLMD, seems like I have heard they can put you

on antibx the last 2 months, and the infant needs followed as well after birth.

I would also be concerned if you plan to nurse the baby, as well, since lyme can

pass thru breast milk.

Allie

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> > Hello,

> >

> > I am new member to this group. I have been diagnosed with possible lyme

disease and I am on one month Anti-biotic course.

> >

> > I have a question about conceiving after completing the treatment and what

chances/risk I have with still having baby affected by it. Any insight into

experience with such cases will help me ease my anxiety.

> >

> > Should I wait for some time after completing the antibiotic treatment?

Should I get tested again? Which test to rule out Lyme?

> >

> > Thank you,

> > Shruti.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The lyme doctor here puts pregnant women on omnicef for their entire pregnancies.

[Guest guest]

Vaccinating and formula feeding is probably more detrimental to the gut health and health of a person than lyme disease, for that reason I think there is a point that moms could breastfeed and stay on antibiotics and, don’t vaccinate. I just don’t know exactly how that works. I have lyme and I breastfed extensively, for years, at least two if not three years for some of my children. I am a proponent of breastfeeding. I know how bad formula is for children and all the benefits of breastfeeding a child. So it is very hard for me to imagine formula feeding a child who may be immune compromised. That just doesn’t sound right, even with lyme. There have been hiv positive women who have breastfed too. I’d like to do more research into this and maybe this would be my thesis paper during midwifery school.

[Guest guest]

Thanks . so there are lyme doctors that work specifically with women who are pregnant?

That is a relief.

Thanks, Misty

Re: Conceiving risk after Lyme treatment - please help!

The lyme doctor here puts pregnant women on omnicef for their entire pregnancies.

[Guest guest]

, i completely agree with you. Breastfeeding enhances the immunity.

Maybe someone here will correct me, but i always thought DK says that most of the population has lyme, it is really variant on the immune system.

Misty

Re: Conceiving risk after Lyme treatment - please help!

Vaccinating and formula feeding is probably more detrimental to the gut health and health of a person than lyme disease, for that reason I think there is a point that moms could breastfeed and stay on antibiotics and, don’t vaccinate. I just don’t know exactly how that works. I have lyme and I breastfed extensively, for years, at least two if not three years for some of my children. I am a proponent of breastfeeding. I know how bad formula is for children and all the benefits of breastfeeding a child. So it is very hard for me to imagine formula feeding a child who may be immune compromised. That just doesn’t sound right, even with lyme. There have been hiv positive women who have breastfed too. I’d like to do more research into this and maybe this would be my thesis paper during midwifery school.

[Guest guest]

I am not pregnant yet, however, we want to soon. So what I am looking for is a

guidance to alternative treatments that have worked for people here. I am on one

month of antibiotic course. I am half way there. Other than that what else can I

do to ensure I get rid of Lyme bacteria before planning for having a child. I

read through the files on the group.....but there is so much info and all

clustered together. I am having hard time trying find a good protocol and

supplements that one can use and time period as to how long to use for etc....

What I gather from these emails is that I should not even think about having a

child. Is that the case? I am sure there is some solution/cure for lyme that

allows one to have a family.

I live in Northern VA and I want to consult LLMD. Can anyone please suggest me a

good LLMD in this area too?

Thank you so much,

Shruti.

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> , i completely agree with you. Breastfeeding enhances the immunity.

> Maybe someone here will correct me, but i always thought DK says that most of

the population has lyme, it is really variant on the immune system.

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> Misty

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> Vaccinating and formula feeding is probably more detrimental to the gut health

and health of a person than lyme disease, for that reason I think there is a

point that moms could breastfeed and stay on antibiotics and, don’t vaccinate.

I just don’t know exactly how that works. I have lyme and I breastfed

extensively, for years, at least two if not three years for some of my children.

I am a proponent of breastfeeding. I know how bad formula is for children and

all the benefits of breastfeeding a child. So it is very hard for me to imagine

formula feeding a child who may be immune compromised. That just doesn’t sound

right, even with lyme. There have been hiv positive women who have breastfed

too. I’d like to do more research into this and maybe this would be my thesis

paper during midwifery school.

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There is a new culture test for Lyme that has just been announced.  You might consider getting a culture done 2-4 weeks after stopping antibiotics.  It would also help to know how soon after the bite that you developed symptoms and started treatment.  It is possible to have chronic Lyme and have a healthy baby, if antibiotics are administered throughout the pregnancy.  I would not wait and treat just during the last 2 months, as untreated Lyme had been implicated in several miscarriages.  The culture test is the best test for proving the existence of infection, as it directly detects the bacteria; unlike the standard tests that look for an immune response to the bacteria. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of shrutidoshi79Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 12:34 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Conceiving risk after Lyme treatment - please help! I am not pregnant yet, however, we want to soon. So what I am looking for is a guidance to alternative treatments that have worked for people here. I am on one month of antibiotic course. I am half way there. Other than that what else can I do to ensure I get rid of Lyme bacteria before planning for having a child. I read through the files on the group.....but there is so much info and all clustered together. I am having hard time trying find a good protocol and supplements that one can use and time period as to how long to use for etc....What I gather from these emails is that I should not even think about having a child. Is that the case? I am sure there is some solution/cure for lyme that allows one to have a family.I live in Northern VA and I want to consult LLMD. Can anyone please suggest me a good LLMD in this area too?Thank you so much,Shruti.>> , i completely agree with you. Breastfeeding enhances the immunity.> Maybe someone here will correct me, but i always thought DK says that most of the population has lyme, it is really variant on the immune system.> > Misty> > > > > > > > Re: Conceiving risk after Lyme treatment - please help!> > > > > > > Vaccinating and formula feeding is probably more detrimental to the gut health and health of a person than lyme disease, for that reason I think there is a point that moms could breastfeed and stay on antibiotics and, don’t vaccinate. I just don’t know exactly how that works. I have lyme and I breastfed extensively, for years, at least two if not three years for some of my children. I am a proponent of breastfeeding. I know how bad formula is for children and all the benefits of breastfeeding a child. So it is very hard for me to imagine formula feeding a child who may be immune compromised. That just doesn’t sound right, even with lyme. There have been hiv positive women who have breastfed too. I’d like to do more research into this and maybe this would be my thesis paper during midwifery school.> > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6657 (20111124) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6657 (20111124) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

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I thought I had been successfully treated for lyme in 1992 & 1993 after 2

different tick bites. I had no symptoms after treatment. I had my kids in 2002 &

2003 and both were infected and are autistic. Both were breastfed. I would

definitely take abx during pregnancy and bf. Dr K will be speaking in NYC on

this topic in February and its open to the public. I encourage anyone thinking

about having a baby to attend! The seminar is called " Save Our Children, Save

our Future "

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do you know the name of the lab that does this test? Is it Neuroscience test?

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health and health of a person than lyme disease, for that reason I think there

is a point that moms could breastfeed and stay on antibiotics and, don’t

vaccinate. I just don’t know exactly how that works. I have lyme and I

breastfed extensively, for years, at least two if not three years for some of my

children. I am a proponent of breastfeeding. I know how bad formula is for

children and all the benefits of breastfeeding a child. So it is very hard for

me to imagine formula feeding a child who may be immune compromised. That just

doesn’t sound right, even with lyme. There have been hiv positive women

who have breastfed too. I’d like to do more research into this and maybe

this would be my thesis paper during midwifery school.

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It will tell you whether the infection is present, and is more accurate than a serology (ELISA and Western Blot), which is not a direct test and at best can only indicate prior exposure. For example, in diagnosing a urinary tract infection, do you test the blood for antibodies to E. coli, or do you culture the urine? The obvious answer also applies to diagnosing infection due to Borrelia burgdorferi (Bb). Cultures are more useful and give more information. WHO MAY ORDER THIS TEST? Based on the laws of Pennsylvania where we are located, it must be ordered by a medical practitioner defined by them as an MD, DO, CRNP, PA-C, and Certified Nurse Midwife. If you are an ND, and even if you may order tests in the state in which you practice, you still will need to have the test ordered by the type of practitioner on Pennsylvania’s approved list. Note that it also cannot be ordered directly by the patient. The practitioner must request a blood drawing kit from Advanced Labs, and once the specimen is drawn, it must be received by us within 24 hours. Please refer to the collection guidelines, below. NEW COLLECTION KITS ARE READY! As the colder weather will soon be affecting much of the country, we have modified our collection kits to include an insulated return mailer to prevent the blood from freezing. If you do not have these kits (they have a molded rigid foam insert in the return box), you should call us to have them sent to you. 501 Elmwood Avenue, Sharon Hill, PA 19079 Phone: · Fax: questions@... www.advanced-lab.com WHAT ABOUT CLINICAL RESEARCH? It is the position of the lab that our function is to provide these incredibly useful tests, and to refine them continually over time. We are aware that the availability of this testing method opens up new avenues of clinical research that may help answer the many remaining questions that clinicians and patients face every day. 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Be sure to send the specimen out the same day it is collected, and use the FedEx overnight mailers we provide in the kits. • Do not send any samples on Friday or Saturday as the lab is not open on weekends! • It is suggested that the blood draw be scheduled for the afternoons if possible because that is when spirochetemia is more likely. However, be sure that FedEx will do an afternoon pickup for you. CONTACT US! As always, we appreciate your feedback and ideas. It is this type collaborative effort that will ensure that we continue to develop and deliver what is needed as quickly and efficiently as possible. Thank you! Advanced Laboratory Services 501 Elmwood Avenue, Sharon Hill, PA 19079 Phone: Fax: questions@... www.advanced-lab.com Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of shrutidoshi79Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 9:51 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Conceiving risk after Lyme treatment - please help! do you know the name of the lab that does this test? Is it Neuroscience test?Thank you,Shruti.> >> > , i completely agree with you. Breastfeeding enhances the immunity.> > Maybe someone here will correct me, but i always thought DK says that most of the population has lyme, it is really variant on the immune system.> > > > Misty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Conceiving risk after Lyme treatment - please help!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaccinating and formula feeding is probably more detrimental to the gut health and health of a person than lyme disease, for that reason I think there is a point that moms could breastfeed and stay on antibiotics and, don’t vaccinate. I just don’t know exactly how that works. I have lyme and I breastfed extensively, for years, at least two if not three years for some of my children. I am a proponent of breastfeeding. I know how bad formula is for children and all the benefits of breastfeeding a child. So it is very hard for me to imagine formula feeding a child who may be immune compromised. That just doesn’t sound right, even with lyme. There have been hiv positive women who have breastfed too. 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Some of the more popular:

Byron White herbal formulas

Rife and Colloidal Silver

Vitamin C and Salt

Buhner's Herbal regimen.

I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet!

www.lyme-resource.com

Re: Conceiving risk

> after Lyme treatment - please help!

>

> Hello,

>

> I am new member to this group. I have been diagnosed with possible

> lyme disease and I am on one month Anti-biotic course.

>

> I have a question about conceiving after completing the treatment and

> what chances/risk I have with still having baby affected by it. Any

> insight into experience with such cases will help me ease my anxiety.

>

> Should I wait for some time after completing the antibiotic treatment?

> Should I get tested again? Which test to rule out Lyme?

>

> Thank you,

> Shruti.

>

>

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Here is a copy of the recent press release. Elmwood Avenue, Sharon Hill, PA 19079 Phone: · Fax: questions@... www.advanced-lab.com BORRELIA CULTURE UPDATE- November 4th, 2011 Latest News From Advanced Laboratory Services Regarding Our Revolutionary New Test BORRELIA BLOOD CULTURE IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR CLINICIANS! Advanced Laboratory Services is pleased to announce that the Borrelia Blood Culture is now available for clinical use in 48 states so far. We have already been accepting samples and reporting results! Please note: • It is NOT yet available in the states of Florida and New York- currently applications for these states have been filed and are pending. • Unfortunately, international samples (including from Canada and Mexico) cannot yet be accepted until logistical issues are addressed and solved, but we are working on this. WHY DO A CULTURE? A culture is a direct test. It will tell you whether the infection is present, and is more accurate than a serology (ELISA and Western Blot), which is not a direct test and at best can only indicate prior exposure. For example, in diagnosing a urinary tract infection, do you test the blood for antibodies to E. coli, or do you culture the urine? The obvious answer also applies to diagnosing infection due to Borrelia burgdorferi (Bb). Cultures are more useful and give more information. WHO MAY ORDER THIS TEST? Based on the laws of Pennsylvania where we are located, it must be ordered by a medical practitioner defined by them as an MD, DO, CRNP, PA-C, and Certified Nurse Midwife. If you are an ND, and even if you may order tests in the state in which you practice, you still will need to have the test ordered by the type of practitioner on Pennsylvania’s approved list. Note that it also cannot be ordered directly by the patient. The practitioner must request a blood drawing kit from Advanced Labs, and once the specimen is drawn, it must be received by us within 24 hours. Please refer to the collection guidelines, below. NEW COLLECTION KITS ARE READY! As the colder weather will soon be affecting much of the country, we have modified our collection kits to include an insulated return mailer to prevent the blood from freezing. If you do not have these kits (they have a molded rigid foam insert in the return box), you should call us to have them sent to you. 501 Elmwood Avenue, Sharon Hill, PA 19079 Phone: · Fax: questions@... www.advanced-lab.com WHAT ABOUT CLINICAL RESEARCH? It is the position of the lab that our function is to provide these incredibly useful tests, and to refine them continually over time. We are aware that the availability of this testing method opens up new avenues of clinical research that may help answer the many remaining questions that clinicians and patients face every day. If a well designed and powered study were to be set up, then the lab would be most cooperative in assisting as it is able. ADVANCED LABS TO PUBLISH A NEWSLETTER! With the news coming from our lab so quickly, and with the many questions from you that we receive, it has been decided to publish a newsletter on a regular basis. It will be sent to all who are on our mailing list. So, to stay abreast of the latest happenings, be sure to sign up and also include your contact info with all your correspondence. BLOOD COLLECTION GUIDELINES Preliminary studies have resulted in the following sample collection guidelines, in order to ensure the highest culture yield: • Patients should be antibiotic-free for at least 4 weeks prior to collection. • Have symptoms and/or signs of active disease at the time of blood draw • Blood must reach the lab within 24 hours of being drawn!!! Be sure to send the specimen out the same day it is collected, and use the FedEx overnight mailers we provide in the kits. • Do not send any samples on Friday or Saturday as the lab is not open on weekends! • It is suggested that the blood draw be scheduled for the afternoons if possible because that is when spirochetemia is more likely. However, be sure that FedEx will do an afternoon pickup for you. CONTACT US! As always, we appreciate your feedback and ideas. It is this type collaborative effort that will ensure that we continue to develop and deliver what is needed as quickly and efficiently as possible. Thank you! Advanced Laboratory Services 501 Elmwood Avenue, Sharon Hill, PA 19079 Phone: Fax: questions@... www.advanced-lab.com Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of shrutidoshi79Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 9:51 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Conceiving risk after Lyme treatment - please help! do you know the name of the lab that does this test? Is it Neuroscience test?Thank you,Shruti.> >> > , i completely agree with you. Breastfeeding enhances the immunity.> > Maybe someone here will correct me, but i always thought DK says that most of the population has lyme, it is really variant on the immune system.> > > > Misty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Conceiving risk after Lyme treatment - please help!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaccinating and formula feeding is probably more detrimental to the gut health and health of a person than lyme disease, for that reason I think there is a point that moms could breastfeed and stay on antibiotics and, don’t vaccinate. I just don’t know exactly how that works. I have lyme and I breastfed extensively, for years, at least two if not three years for some of my children. I am a proponent of breastfeeding. I know how bad formula is for children and all the benefits of breastfeeding a child. So it is very hard for me to imagine formula feeding a child who may be immune compromised. That just doesn’t sound right, even with lyme. There have been hiv positive women who have breastfed too. I’d like to do more research into this and maybe this would be my thesis paper during midwifery school.> > > > > >> > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6657 (20111124) __________> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > http://www.eset.com>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6660 (20111125) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6660 (20111125) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6660 (20111125) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com