Guest guest Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Can anyone share successful parasite treatments as well as signs and symptoms? I have a 6 year old with ASD, and I strongly suspect he has them. Thanks, B in MI Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Symptoms are night waking, anal itching, nose picking, waxy ears, sound sensitivity, constipation or diarrhea, not using the toilet, hyperactivity, excessive eating or thirst, sandy eyes in the am or if you scratch under your eyebrow and the skin flakes, poor balance, and any gross motor delay. Neurapathy or numbness of feet, possibly toe walking. Those are the areas we saw improve. Remember there are so many different parasites and various ones cause different combinations of those symptoms. The treatments that we liked the best were alinia, ivermectin, albenza and mimosa pudica we did not do those all at once. We had done almost a year of mepron and zhangs artemisiae in the past with good gains, but there were still many other areas those never hit. Also mebendazole eliminated constipation, but needed to be repeated whenever the symptom returned. Seemingly, worms can live for years and you cannot kill the adult worms. You need to keep treating to get rid of immature worms and treat until all adult worms die. Probaly years. This is just my opinion as a patient, but I have been treating Lyme and confections for years and this is the best treatment I have ever done. > > Can anyone share successful parasite treatments as well as signs and symptoms? > > I have a 6 year old with ASD, and I strongly suspect he has them. > > Thanks, > > B in MI > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 There are two of us in FL who have IgM antibody response to toxoplasma gondii and I am now going to go for PCR. Toxoplasma in the CNS is how they found Arthur Ashe's HIV/AIDS. Anyone with a compromised immune system will show this if they got the protozoan. I can not tolerate the meds for toxo. We all have received pathogens and then opportunistic infections and need to boost the immune system and/or kill those pathogens with the right meds. Rocephin will not touch Brucella for instance...etc etc... To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:24 AM Subject: Re: parasites Go to Youtube and watch some of the many about Lyme. Yes, it makes some stop speaking and act all kinds of odd ways. I don't think anyone just has Lyme, because of the way Lyme works. Lyme, mercury, retroviruses, etc. cause the immune system to work amiss, allowing pathogens and toxins to stockpile. So, depending upon what other pathogens and toxins one is exposed to, can explain some of the differences. If you look up worms, you will find that they make adults ill, and cause developmental problems in children, such as autism, mental retardation, failure to thrive, etc. So, children are definitely prone to more serious symptoms. Even if you rid all parasites, there is still the problem of what caused the body to stockpile those parasites. Many parasites, supposedly, are able to be fought off by those who are healthy. With all these variables, it's very difficult to know exactly what is going on. This is why biomed covers so many areas, and the parents are doing so many different treatments. It appears that those who are chronically ill have all the pathogen types. The real problem is that the medical system is not set up effectively. People are spending many years begging docs for testing, being told insurance won't pay, or such and such pathogens are too rare to worry about, etc. Plus, it's thought that a short course of a prescription med is enough to bring a cure even when a person succeeds in getting a positive test. So, it's really about finding health practitioners that know all this, so you don't waste time asking a doc to do something he really doesn't want to do or know how to do. Most of my kids had chronic diarrhea before biomed. Their pediatrician just shrugged his shoulders. When they were given Zithromax for ear infections, their diarrhea immediately went away, but returned when the medicine was stopped. The other antibiotics made the diarrhea worse. Anyhow, when I told the doc that, his answer was, "Well, I they can't take Zithromax all the time, and said he would just treat ear infections." I figured that is all he was trained to do. So, anyhow, of course, I eventually learned about recovery and sought out a knowledgeable doc via word of mouth on my local autism forum for my state. I have seen several people on the autism forums post that their children tested positive for toxosplasmas, anaplasmas, unknown protozoa, Babesia, etc. So, yes, these are a problem. Unfortunately, treating for parasites seems to take a very long time, and most say they get great improvements, but I have not seen anyone state that all they treated was parasites and their child was cured. There are a few who said most of the symptoms started dramatically decreasing just from parasite treatments. So, it's really a matter of that our children are ill with many infections, testing is not very reliable, and your average doc doesn't seem to feel the infections we see on the autism forums are much of a problem. But, if you Google, and look at the official medical research studies, which can be done by going to www.pubmed.com or Googling, "toxoplasma abstract," you will be very amazed at how awful these infections are. Plus, if you Google testing reliability, you will be very amazed at how unreliable the medical research admits it is. Even the labs will say their testing is only a certain percentage reliable if all the steps taken are done correctly. Meaning, samples have to be taken under certain conditions and handled with certain temperatures, etc. The docs known for their high success rates often talk about using only certain labs and only testing certain ways, so obviously testing is an issue. On top of that, insurance is quite picky on which tests and labs it will pay for. So, this all adds to the problem of not being able to test, not being able to use the best testing, and not being taken seriously that infections are a problem in those with chronic conditions. Oddly, if you look up infections and chronic conditions, you will find medical research saying they are correlated. But, when you talk to your average, local doc, or read general medical news, you will read that there is "no known cause." So, what we have is an interpretation of medical research studies different than what they reflect. Yes, us parents recovering our kids do a lot of work. We must figure a lot of things out to navigate our journey successfully. Keep in mind that not just those with autism are effected. But, a lot of people have problems, many not diagnosed. Autism is often looked at as a higher degree of illness than those with ADHD. I have even seen many parents report that their children went from calm autism symptoms to hyperactivity with biomed treatments, as if the calmness was a higher degree of illness, and the hyperactivity was a sign that healing was taking place. In the end, mot parents end up treating for many pathogen types, and treating from many angles (adding nutrients, regulating the immune system, directly killing pathogens, as well as detoxing). Love and prayers, Heidi N That article about toxoplasma gonidii has really got me thinking. Have any of you had your child tested for that specific parasite? Do any of you know where I would even begin if I wanted my son to be tested for parasites? He has been tested for co-infections and has babesia, HH6, and mycoplasma, but I don't think there was anything about parasites. The reason I am so intrigued by this is the following: I think we all believe that Lyme disease had something to do with our children's developmental disabilities, but if it was just Lyme why wouldn't all children infected with Lyme have Autism? I am sure we all know children infected with Lyme who have "brain fog," ADHD, etc. but they don't have Autism. I remember someone once refereeing to Lyme disease on this chat group as a "burning bush" that is constantly keeping their immune system at bay while other things sneak past the guards. Parasites would make an interesting suspect for Autism since, like it mentioned in that article, Toxoplasma Gonidii can actually change behavior. I know Lyme disease can make a person feel horrible and can severely effect their memory and other cognitive functions, but do you think it can change a person's behavior making them do things that are self destructive? I remember when my son was 2 and we were at a pool and he just ran full speed right into the deep end. If I didn't hold my son's hand he would run right into the middle of the street and not think twice. I am by no way downplaying Lyme disease my son and wife are severely infected and the last three years have been pure hell, but that article just really got me thinking. I am interested in hearing what you guys think. 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Guest guest Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Hi Mason! I know you are concerned about more parasites than just toxoplasmosis, but there is research that lactoferrin inhibits the growth of toxoplasmosis. Lactoferrin is found in colostrum, but you can also buy it as a separate supplement. Colostrum and lactoferrin were very good treatments for my kids. Lactoferrin also robs iron from pathogens and gives it to tissues and organs where it is needed. It is an effective treatment for anemia, too. na > > > Heidi, > > Thanks for the excellent and well thought out reply. I have noticed since we started our wide range of biomed treatment for our son we have seen a change from docile and disconnected to engaged but extremely hyperactive. > > I am going to talk to our LLMD about testing for parasites, especially toxoplasmosis, but like you wrote it might be hard to find an accurate lab. > > All part of the journey I guess. > > Thanks for all you do > > Mason > > > > > > > > > > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > From: fight4thekids@... > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:24:22 -0600 > Subject: Re: parasites > > > > > > > Go to Youtube and watch some of the many about Lyme. Yes, it makes some > stop speaking and act all kinds of odd ways. I don't think anyone just > has Lyme, because of the way Lyme works. Lyme, mercury, retroviruses, > etc. cause the immune system to work amiss, allowing pathogens and > toxins to stockpile. So, depending upon what other pathogens and toxins > one is exposed to, can explain some of the differences. If you look up > worms, you will find that they make adults ill, and cause developmental > problems in children, such as autism, mental retardation, failure to > thrive, etc. So, children are definitely prone to more serious > symptoms. Even if you rid all parasites, there is still the problem of > what caused the body to stockpile those parasites. Many parasites, > supposedly, are able to be fought off by those who are healthy. With > all these variables, it's very difficult to know exactly what is going > on. This is why biomed covers so many areas, and the parents are doing > so many different treatments. It appears that those who are chronically > ill have all the pathogen types. The real problem is that the medical > system is not set up effectively. People are spending many years > begging docs for testing, being told insurance won't pay, or such and > such pathogens are too rare to worry about, etc. Plus, it's thought > that a short course of a prescription med is enough to bring a cure even > when a person succeeds in getting a positive test. So, it's really > about finding health practitioners that know all this, so you don't > waste time asking a doc to do something he really doesn't want to do or > know how to do. > > Most of my kids had chronic diarrhea before biomed. Their pediatrician > just shrugged his shoulders. When they were given Zithromax for ear > infections, their diarrhea immediately went away, but returned when the > medicine was stopped. The other antibiotics made the diarrhea worse. > Anyhow, when I told the doc that, his answer was, " Well, I they can't > take Zithromax all the time, and said he would just treat ear > infections. " I figured that is all he was trained to do. So, anyhow, > of course, I eventually learned about recovery and sought out a > knowledgeable doc via word of mouth on my local autism forum for my state. > > I have seen several people on the autism forums post that their children > tested positive for toxosplasmas, anaplasmas, unknown protozoa, Babesia, > etc. So, yes, these are a problem. Unfortunately, treating for > parasites seems to take a very long time, and most say they get great > improvements, but I have not seen anyone state that all they treated was > parasites and their child was cured. There are a few who said most of > the symptoms started dramatically decreasing just from parasite > treatments. So, it's really a matter of that our children are ill with > many infections, testing is not very reliable, and your average doc > doesn't seem to feel the infections we see on the autism forums are much > of a problem. But, if you Google, and look at the official medical > research studies, which can be done by going to www.pubmed.com or > Googling, " toxoplasma abstract, " you will be very amazed at how awful > these infections are. Plus, if you Google testing reliability, you will > be very amazed at how unreliable the medical research admits it is. > Even the labs will say their testing is only a certain percentage > reliable if all the steps taken are done correctly. Meaning, samples > have to be taken under certain conditions and handled with certain > temperatures, etc. > > The docs known for their high success rates often talk about using only > certain labs and only testing certain ways, so obviously testing is an > issue. On top of that, insurance is quite picky on which tests and labs > it will pay for. So, this all adds to the problem of not being able to > test, not being able to use the best testing, and not being taken > seriously that infections are a problem in those with chronic > conditions. Oddly, if you look up infections and chronic conditions, > you will find medical research saying they are correlated. But, when > you talk to your average, local doc, or read general medical news, you > will read that there is " no known cause. " So, what we have is an > interpretation of medical research studies different than what they reflect. > > Yes, us parents recovering our kids do a lot of work. We must figure a > lot of things out to navigate our journey successfully. Keep in mind > that not just those with autism are effected. But, a lot of people have > problems, many not diagnosed. Autism is often looked at as a higher > degree of illness than those with ADHD. I have even seen many parents > report that their children went from calm autism symptoms to > hyperactivity with biomed treatments, as if the calmness was a higher > degree of illness, and the hyperactivity was a sign that healing was > taking place. > > In the end, mot parents end up treating for many pathogen types, and > treating from many angles (adding nutrients, regulating the immune > system, directly killing pathogens, as well as detoxing). > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > > That article about toxoplasma gonidii has really got me thinking. Have > any of you had your child tested for that specific parasite? Do any of > you know where I would even begin if I wanted my son to be tested for > parasites? He has been tested for co-infections and has babesia, HH6, > and mycoplasma, but I don't think there was anything about parasites. > > The reason I am so intrigued by this is the following: I think we all > believe that Lyme disease had something to do with our children's > developmental disabilities, but if it was just Lyme why wouldn't all > children infected with Lyme have Autism? I am sure we all know children > infected with Lyme who have " brain fog, " ADHD, etc. but they don't have > Autism. I remember someone once refereeing to Lyme disease on this chat > group as a " burning bush " that is constantly keeping their immune system > at bay while other things sneak past the guards. > > Parasites would make an interesting suspect for Autism since, like it > mentioned in that article, Toxoplasma Gonidii can actually change > behavior. I know Lyme disease can make a person feel horrible and can > severely effect their memory and other cognitive functions, but do you > think it can change a person's behavior making them do things that are > self destructive? > > I remember when my son was 2 and we were at a pool and he just ran full > speed right into the deep end. If I didn't hold my son's hand he would > run right into the middle of the street and not think twice. > > I am by no way downplaying Lyme disease my son and wife are severely > infected and the last three years have been pure hell, but that article > just really got me thinking. > > I am interested in hearing what you guys think. > > Mason > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Metametrix GI effects is good at detecting parasites > > > That article about toxoplasma gonidii has really got me thinking. Have any of you had your child tested for that specific parasite? Do any of you know where I would even begin if I wanted my son to be tested for parasites? He has been tested for co-infections and has babesia, HH6, and mycoplasma, but I don't think there was anything about parasites. > > The reason I am so intrigued by this is the following: I think we all believe that Lyme disease had something to do with our children's developmental disabilities, but if it was just Lyme why wouldn't all children infected with Lyme have Autism? I am sure we all know children infected with Lyme who have " brain fog, " ADHD, etc. but they don't have Autism. I remember someone once refereeing to Lyme disease on this chat group as a " burning bush " that is constantly keeping their immune system at bay while other things sneak past the guards. > > Parasites would make an interesting suspect for Autism since, like it mentioned in that article, Toxoplasma Gonidii can actually change behavior. I know Lyme disease can make a person feel horrible and can severely effect their memory and other cognitive functions, but do you think it can change a person's behavior making them do things that are self destructive? > > I remember when my son was 2 and we were at a pool and he just ran full speed right into the deep end. If I didn't hold my son's hand he would run right into the middle of the street and not think twice. > > I am by no way downplaying Lyme disease my son and wife are severely infected and the last three years have been pure hell, but that article just really got me thinking. > > I am interested in hearing what you guys think. > > Mason > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Thanks. That is one that our DAN! doctor told us about, but we haven't done the test yet. Subject: Re: parasitesTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Saturday, February 18, 2012, 8:22 PM Metametrix GI effects is good at detecting parasites > > > That article about toxoplasma gonidii has really got me thinking. Have any of you had your child tested for that specific parasite? Do any of you know where I would even begin if I wanted my son to be tested for parasites? He has been tested for co-infections and has babesia, HH6, and mycoplasma, but I don't think there was anything about parasites. > > The reason I am so intrigued by this is the following: I think we all believe that Lyme disease had something to do with our children's developmental disabilities, but if it was just Lyme why wouldn't all children infected with Lyme have Autism? I am sure we all know children infected with Lyme who have "brain fog," ADHD, etc. but they don't have Autism. I remember someone once refereeing to Lyme disease on this chat group as a "burning bush" that is constantly keeping their immune system at bay while other things sneak past the guards. > > Parasites would make an interesting suspect for Autism since, like it mentioned in that article, Toxoplasma Gonidii can actually change behavior. I know Lyme disease can make a person feel horrible and can severely effect their memory and other cognitive functions, but do you think it can change a person's behavior making them do things that are self destructive? > > I remember when my son was 2 and we were at a pool and he just ran full speed right into the deep end. If I didn't hold my son's hand he would run right into the middle of the street and not think twice. > > I am by no way downplaying Lyme disease my son and wife are severely infected and the last three years have been pure hell, but that article just really got me thinking. > > I am interested in hearing what you guys think. > > Mason > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Hi Mason, I tested positive for toxo Igm and IgG with my first kid and my titers went sky high with prednisone. Had a few wierd health bouts...first sinus infection, air hunger and face rushing but big. I was tested 4 times as my ob gyn was Swiss and suggested that I might want to consider " starting over " . Tests were quest twice and the toxo plasma lab in palo alto. Last night I asked dr. K if the labs might be confusing toxo with babesia and he has seen it. If u google toxo it's also a common co infection. Any doc should order toxo testing without a blink of an eye...it's generally considered benign and common. If u want to send it to palo alto, I have the code, but I do not think this lab is anything special. Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 very well stated... thank you, Heidi Regards, Sharon Re: parasites Posted by: "vjnmarla@..." vjnmarla@... vjnmarla Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:33 am (PST) Very well written... I couldn't agree more. You have done your research! Kudos to you. ParikhSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 18, 2012, at 6:24 AM, fight4thekids <fight4thekidsgmail> wrote:> Go to Youtube and watch some of the many about Lyme. Yes, it makes some > stop speaking and act all kinds of odd ways. I don't think anyone just > has Lyme, because of the way Lyme works. Lyme, mercury, retroviruses, > etc. cause the immune system to work amiss, allowing pathogens and > toxins to stockpile. So, depending upon what other pathogens and toxins > one is exposed to, can explain some of the differences. If you look up > worms, you will find that they make adults ill, and cause developmental > problems in children, such as autism, mental retardation, failure to > thrive, etc. So, children are definitely prone to more serious > symptoms. Even if you rid all parasites, there is still the problem of > what caused the body to stockpile those parasites. Many parasites, > supposedly, are able to be fought off by those who are healthy. With > all these variables, it's very difficult to know exactly what is going > on. This is why biomed covers so many areas, and the parents are doing > so many different treatments. It appears that those who are chronically > ill have all the pathogen types. The real problem is that the medical > system is not set up effectively. People are spending many years > begging docs for testing, being told insurance won't pay, or such and > such pathogens are too rare to worry about, etc. Plus, it's thought > that a short course of a prescription med is enough to bring a cure even > when a person succeeds in getting a positive test. So, it's really > about finding health practitioners that know all this, so you don't > waste time asking a doc to do something he really doesn't want to do or > know how to do.> > Most of my kids had chronic diarrhea before biomed. Their pediatrician > just shrugged his shoulders. When they were given Zithromax for ear > infections, their diarrhea immediately went away, but returned when the > medicine was stopped. The other antibiotics made the diarrhea worse. > Anyhow, when I told the doc that, his answer was, "Well, I they can't > take Zithromax all the time, and said he would just treat ear > infections." I figured that is all he was trained to do. So, anyhow, > of course, I eventually learned about recovery and sought out a > knowledgeable doc via word of mouth on my local autism forum for my state.> > I have seen several people on the autism forums post that their children > tested positive for toxosplasmas, anaplasmas, unknown protozoa, Babesia, > etc. So, yes, these are a problem. Unfortunately, treating for > parasites seems to take a very long time, and most say they get great > improvements, but I have not seen anyone state that all they treated was > parasites and their child was cured. There are a few who said most of > the symptoms started dramatically decreasing just from parasite > treatments. So, it's really a matter of that our children are ill with > many infections, testing is not very reliable, and your average doc > doesn't seem to feel the infections we see on the autism forums are much > of a problem. But, if you Google, and look at the official medical > research studies, which can be done by going to www.pubmed.com or > Googling, "toxoplasma abstract," you will be very amazed at how awful > these infections are. Plus, if you Google testing reliability, you will > be very amazed at how unreliable the medical research admits it is. > Even the labs will say their testing is only a certain percentage > reliable if all the steps taken are done correctly. Meaning, samples > have to be taken under certain conditions and handled with certain > temperatures, etc.> > The docs known for their high success rates often talk about using only > certain labs and only testing certain ways, so obviously testing is an > issue. On top of that, insurance is quite picky on which tests and labs > it will pay for. So, this all adds to the problem of not being able to > test, not being able to use the best testing, and not being taken > seriously that infections are a problem in those with chronic > conditions. Oddly, if you look up infections and chronic conditions, > you will find medical research saying they are correlated. But, when > you talk to your average, local doc, or read general medical news, you > will read that there is "no known cause." So, what we have is an > interpretation of medical research studies different than what they reflect.> > Yes, us parents recovering our kids do a lot of work. We must figure a > lot of things out to navigate our journey successfully. Keep in mind > that not just those with autism are effected. But, a lot of people have > problems, many not diagnosed. Autism is often looked at as a higher > degree of illness than those with ADHD. I have even seen many parents > report that their children went from calm autism symptoms to > hyperactivity with biomed treatments, as if the calmness was a higher > degree of illness, and the hyperactivity was a sign that healing was > taking place.> > In the end, mot parents end up treating for many pathogen types, and > treating from many angles (adding nutrients, regulating the immune > system, directly killing pathogens, as well as detoxing).> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 , My son was diagnosed with EE and EE and had too many scopes, elemental formula for years. It is a combo of garbage and the only GI that seemed to pick up in parasites via endoscopes is at the EE center at childrens Hospital in Cincinnati....we cancelled our trip to Cincinnati and cleaning up the gut is a process but it does get better. Things that had a negative impact on my kids health were vaccines, antacids and anesthesia. HTH, Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Hi, We just took our son to Dr. Patel (www.drrajpatel.net). We went to him to help with his Autism, and through all the testing, found out he has Lyme. He's an excellent doctor and very knowledgeable about Lyme. He's located in Los Altos...check out his website! Elaine > > > > > > > >>Go to Youtube and watch some of the many about Lyme. Yes, it makes some > >>stop speaking and act all kinds of odd ways. I don't think anyone just > >>has Lyme, because of the way Lyme works. Lyme, mercury, retroviruses, > >>etc. cause the immune system to work amiss, allowing pathogens and > >>toxins to stockpile. So, depending upon what other pathogens and toxins > >>one is exposed to, can explain some of the differences. If you look up > >>worms, you will find that they make adults ill, and cause developmental > >>problems in children, such as autism, mental retardation, failure to > >>thrive, etc. So, children are definitely prone to more serious > >>symptoms. Even if you rid all parasites, there is still the problem of > >>what caused the body to stockpile those parasites. Many parasites, > >>supposedly, are able to be fought off by those who are healthy. With > >>all these variables, it's very difficult to know exactly what is going > >>on. This is why biomed covers so many areas, and the parents are doing > >>so many different treatments. It appears that those who are chronically > >>ill have all the pathogen types. The real problem is that the medical > >>system is not set up effectively. People are spending many years > >>begging docs for testing, being told insurance won't pay, or such and > >>such pathogens are too rare to worry about, etc. Plus, it's thought > >>that a short course of a prescription med is enough to bring a cure even > >>when a person succeeds in getting a positive test. So, it's really > >>about finding health practitioners that know all this, so you don't > >>waste time asking a doc to do something he really doesn't want to do or > >>know how to do. > >> > >>Most of my kids had chronic diarrhea before biomed. Their pediatrician > >>just shrugged his shoulders. When they were given Zithromax for ear > >>infections, their diarrhea immediately went away, but returned when the > >>medicine was stopped. The other antibiotics made the diarrhea worse. > >>Anyhow, when I told the doc that, his answer was, " Well, I they can't > >>take Zithromax all the time, and said he would just treat ear > >>infections. " I figured that is all he was trained to do. So, anyhow, > >>of course, I eventually learned about recovery and sought out a > >>knowledgeable doc via word of mouth on my local autism forum for my state. > >> > >>I have seen several people on the autism forums post that their children > >>tested positive for toxosplasmas, anaplasmas, unknown protozoa, Babesia, > >>etc. So, yes, these are a problem. Unfortunately, treating for > >>parasites seems to take a very long time, and most say they get great > >>improvements, but I have not seen anyone state that all they treated was > >>parasites and their child was cured. There are a few who said most of > >>the symptoms started dramatically decreasing just from parasite > >>treatments. So, it's really a matter of that our children are ill with > >>many infections, testing is not very reliable, and your average doc > >>doesn't seem to feel the infections we see on the autism forums are much > >>of a problem. But, if you Google, and look at the official medical > >>research studies, which can be done by going to www.pubmed.com or > >>Googling, " toxoplasma abstract, " you will be very amazed at how awful > >>these infections are. Plus, if you Google testing reliability, you will > >>be very amazed at how unreliable the medical research admits it is. > >>Even the labs will say their testing is only a certain percentage > >>reliable if all the steps taken are done correctly. Meaning, samples > >>have to be taken under certain conditions and handled with certain > >>temperatures, etc. > >> > >>The docs known for their high success rates often talk about using only > >>certain labs and only testing certain ways, so obviously testing is an > >>issue. On top of that, insurance is quite picky on which tests and labs > >>it will pay for. So, this all adds to the problem of not being able to > >>test, not being able to use the best testing, and not being taken > >>seriously that infections are a problem in those with chronic > >>conditions. Oddly, if you look up infections and chronic conditions, > >>you will find medical research saying they are correlated. But, when > >>you talk to your average, local doc, or read general medical news, you > >>will read that there is " no known cause. " So, what we have is an > >>interpretation of medical research studies different than what they reflect. > >> > >>Yes, us parents recovering our kids do a lot of work. We must figure a > >>lot of things out to navigate our journey successfully. Keep in mind > >>that not just those with autism are effected. But, a lot of people have > >>problems, many not diagnosed. Autism is often looked at as a higher > >>degree of illness than those with ADHD. I have even seen many parents > >>report that their children went from calm autism symptoms to > >>hyperactivity with biomed treatments, as if the calmness was a higher > >>degree of illness, and the hyperactivity was a sign that healing was > >>taking place. > >> > >>In the end, mot parents end up treating for many pathogen types, and > >>treating from many angles (adding nutrients, regulating the immune > >>system, directly killing pathogens, as well as detoxing). > >> > >>Love and prayers, > >> > >>Heidi N > >> > >>That article about toxoplasma gonidii has really got me thinking. Have > >>any of you had your child tested for that specific parasite? Do any of > >>you know where I would even begin if I wanted my son to be tested for > >>parasites? He has been tested for co-infections and has babesia, HH6, > >>and mycoplasma, but I don't think there was anything about parasites. > >> > >>The reason I am so intrigued by this is the following: I think we all > >>believe that Lyme disease had something to do with our children's > >>developmental disabilities, but if it was just Lyme why wouldn't all > >>children infected with Lyme have Autism? I am sure we all know children > >>infected with Lyme who have " brain fog, " ADHD, etc. but they don't have > >>Autism. I remember someone once refereeing to Lyme disease on this chat > >>group as a " burning bush " that is constantly keeping their immune system > >>at bay while other things sneak past the guards. > >> > >>Parasites would make an interesting suspect for Autism since, like it > >>mentioned in that article, Toxoplasma Gonidii can actually change > >>behavior. I know Lyme disease can make a person feel horrible and can > >>severely effect their memory and other cognitive functions, but do you > >>think it can change a person's behavior making them do things that are > >>self destructive? > >> > >>I remember when my son was 2 and we were at a pool and he just ran full > >>speed right into the deep end. If I didn't hold my son's hand he would > >>run right into the middle of the street and not think twice. > >> > >>I am by no way downplaying Lyme disease my son and wife are severely > >>infected and the last three years have been pure hell, but that article > >>just really got me thinking. > >> > >>I am interested in hearing what you guys think. > >> > >>Mason > >>= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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