Re: Nagalese Test: Is there an alternative to GcMAF to bring the numbers down?

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Very interesting. I wonder if the positive feedback is from the pill version of

this? And if you can only get it if you are a patient of this particular

doctor? I would much rather try this first than the shots. Have been trying to

get answers from DrB about GcMAF but no one is responding to my calls or emails

in that office, correction, I had an in-take talk with a nurse who could not

answer my questions and passed me onto another nurse who could not who gave me

the voicemail of yet another nurse who never called or emailed back. What I

wanted to know is whether or not we should aggressively treat Lyme and get that

under control before trying GcMAF or not? We've seen good things from

IVIG--however I have come to realize that it's a very expensive crutch that has

not been strong enough, in my son's case, to overcome his insidious infections,

Lyme etc. So I do not want yet another expensive crutch and need to know if we

need to successfully treat this stuff before moving onto GcMAF or MAF 314, which

I had never heard of until just now so thank you for telling the group about it.

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> > Has anyone else here run the Nagalese test? My son recently had it run and

on a range of normal being 0.32-0.95 his is 0.97. Since we cannot afford GcMAF

is anyone familiar with alternatives to this in order to reduce the Nagalese

level? Is it just a matter of chipping away at the viral load? Is anyone

working with DrK using GcMAF yet? Or using GcMAF on their own without a doctor?

It seems to be a very promising treatment. A very smart member of LIA told me

that before even being able to try GcMAF you would need to make sure the vitamin

D level is adequate. Since most people with Lyme have low D levels, I have

increased supplementing this to the whole family. I wonder if there can be a

toxic level of D3 of if high doses of it are relatively harmless much like high

doses of vitamin C?

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[Guest guest]

Actually Ruggerio is not a doctor but professor in some University in Firenze

and he developed the MAF 314, so No - you don't need to be his patient. From my

understanding this probotic is without prescription in Europe, but I might be

wrong. Simply they teach them for few days how to make the yogurt using milk,

colostrum and then the probiotic cultures. They leave it for 48 hours to grow

and then it's ready.

This is one of the links that I learned about:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38793300/GFM...JAE%202011.pdf

I just don't understand why this probiotic is not more popular and all over all

the autism forums, because it sounds so good to get the benefits of GcMAF from

real cultured food, probably I am missing something

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> > > Has anyone else here run the Nagalese test? My son recently had it run

and on a range of normal being 0.32-0.95 his is 0.97. Since we cannot afford

GcMAF is anyone familiar with alternatives to this in order to reduce the

Nagalese level? Is it just a matter of chipping away at the viral load? Is

anyone working with DrK using GcMAF yet? Or using GcMAF on their own without a

doctor? It seems to be a very promising treatment. A very smart member of LIA

told me that before even being able to try GcMAF you would need to make sure the

vitamin D level is adequate. Since most people with Lyme have low D levels, I

have increased supplementing this to the whole family. I wonder if there can be

a toxic level of D3 of if high doses of it are relatively harmless much like

high doses of vitamin C?

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[Guest guest]

Since my son has a folate receptor disorder his avoidance of all milk products

goes beyond just a basic allergy. I did not realize MAF 314 was milk based.

But I would still be very interested in learning more as I have come to

understand that for us we always have to weigh the benefits against the risks.

Maybe a small exposure to casein would be less risky than a long needle for the

GcMAF injection? I don't know. Would you please re-post the link? It would

not open. I wonder how we could get ahold of some of this stuff? Thanks.

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> > > > Has anyone else here run the Nagalese test? My son recently had it run

and on a range of normal being 0.32-0.95 his is 0.97. Since we cannot afford

GcMAF is anyone familiar with alternatives to this in order to reduce the

Nagalese level? Is it just a matter of chipping away at the viral load? Is

anyone working with DrK using GcMAF yet? Or using GcMAF on their own without a

doctor? It seems to be a very promising treatment. A very smart member of LIA

told me that before even being able to try GcMAF you would need to make sure the

vitamin D level is adequate. Since most people with Lyme have low D levels, I

have increased supplementing this to the whole family. I wonder if there can be

a toxic level of D3 of if high doses of it are relatively harmless much like

high doses of vitamin C?

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[Guest guest]

Sorry, not sure why I didn't paste it correctly before.

Here are all the links I have about this product:

http://hivskeptic.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/cdb269-pacini-and-ruggiero.pdf

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38793300/GFMAF%20IJAE%202011.pdf

http://www.marcoruggiero.org/pdf/3-%20Poster%20ICAR%202011%20GcMAF%20%5BPunzi%20\

Morucci%5D.jpg

This youtube video shows the snipping off of two sugars to create GcMAF (or

DBPMAF).

Please let me know if you have again problems opening the files.

Krassi

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> > > > > Has anyone else here run the Nagalese test? My son recently

> > had it run and on a range of normal being 0.32-0.95 his is 0.97.

> > Since we cannot afford GcMAF is anyone familiar with alternatives to

> > this in order to reduce the Nagalese level? Is it just a matter of

> > chipping away at the viral load? Is anyone working with DrK using

> > GcMAF yet? Or using GcMAF on their own without a doctor? It seems to

> > be a very promising treatment. A very smart member of LIA told me

> > that before even being able to try GcMAF you would need to make sure

> > the vitamin D level is adequate. Since most people with Lyme have

> > low D levels, I have increased supplementing this to the whole

> > family. I wonder if there can be a toxic level of D3 of if high

> > doses of it are relatively harmless much like high doses of vitamin C?

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[Guest guest]

Is there any speculation why the negative behaviors were created from GcMAF?

Does DrB think that Lyme needs to be treated before starting GcMAF? I wonder if

it would be as effective if the patient had Lyme.

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> > > > Has anyone else here run the Nagalese test? My son recently had it run

and on a range of normal being 0.32-0.95 his is 0.97. Since we cannot afford

GcMAF is anyone familiar with alternatives to this in order to reduce the

Nagalese level? Is it just a matter of chipping away at the viral load? Is

anyone working with DrK using GcMAF yet? Or using GcMAF on their own without a

doctor? It seems to be a very promising treatment. A very smart member of LIA

told me that before even being able to try GcMAF you would need to make sure the

vitamin D level is adequate. Since most people with Lyme have low D levels, I

have increased supplementing this to the whole family. I wonder if there can be

a toxic level of D3 of if high doses of it are relatively harmless much like

high doses of vitamin C?

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[Guest guest]

DrB is reportedly saying he is getting good results with GcMAF but I only know 2

families personally and one may be seeing slight gains, the other stopped due to

negative behaviors but is planning to start again.

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> > > > > Has anyone else here run the Nagalese test? My son recently had it

run and on a range of normal being 0.32-0.95 his is 0.97. Since we cannot

afford GcMAF is anyone familiar with alternatives to this in order to reduce the

Nagalese level? Is it just a matter of chipping away at the viral load? Is

anyone working with DrK using GcMAF yet? Or using GcMAF on their own without a

doctor? It seems to be a very promising treatment. A very smart member of LIA

told me that before even being able to try GcMAF you would need to make sure the

vitamin D level is adequate. Since most people with Lyme have low D levels, I

have increased supplementing this to the whole family. I wonder if there can be

a toxic level of D3 of if high doses of it are relatively harmless much like

high doses of vitamin C?

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[Guest guest]

I don't know for sure but doubting DrB treats lyme.

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> > > > > Has anyone else here run the Nagalese test? My son recently had it

run and on a range of normal being 0.32-0.95 his is 0.97. Since we cannot

afford GcMAF is anyone familiar with alternatives to this in order to reduce the

Nagalese level? Is it just a matter of chipping away at the viral load? Is

anyone working with DrK using GcMAF yet? Or using GcMAF on their own without a

doctor? It seems to be a very promising treatment. A very smart member of LIA

told me that before even being able to try GcMAF you would need to make sure the

vitamin D level is adequate. Since most people with Lyme have low D levels, I

have increased supplementing this to the whole family. I wonder if there can be

a toxic level of D3 of if high doses of it are relatively harmless much like

high doses of vitamin C?

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