Guest guest Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Hi bethanyI went through this w Enhansa. It gave my boy a full body rash w bumps and dryness. It was so bad I had to give him al aldosterone shot. It wouldn't go away. I would say, stop the vit a, I honestly believe this comes from the ldm, not necessarily a bad thing to see, but I suggest you give his body only one thing to work with at a time. Give him lots of green juices, activated charcoal and bentonite baths in the meantime. Some quercetin to help w the allergic response might help too. If it itches, rub cocont oil mixed w a few drops of chamomile oil...BlessingsIsaIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:48:16 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Need help - rash My son has an all-over rash that I'm concerned might be vitamin A toxicity or LDM die off. We did high-dose vitamin A on Monday and Tuesday of this week, and today is Friday and the rash is all over. It looks like a mild measles rash to me. It is not concentrated at his neck.Here's a timeline of events:1/5 started LDM 100, 5 drops 2x/day1/6 rash appears on upper back1/9 Vitamin A 300k, rash seems to decrease1/10 vitamin A 300k (continued with 10k Vitamin A on the days after)1/12 rash on back is almost gone1/13 rash gets red again and spreads to entire bodySo I may have made a mistake introducing too much at once. I am trying to decide whether to stop the vitamin A, the LDM, or to just push through this.Any thoughts would be appreciated.Bethany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Isa, Thanks so much for your input! I think we are going to stop the vitamin A and hope the rash clears up. Thanks for the detox ideas, we need to use some of those. I would not have thought of the bentonite, but luckily I have some on hand! Bethany > > Hi bethany > I went through this w Enhansa. It gave my boy a full body rash w bumps and dryness. It was so bad I had to give him al aldosterone shot. It wouldn't go away. I would say, stop the vit a, I honestly believe this comes from the ldm, not necessarily a bad thing to see, but I suggest you give his body only one thing to work with at a time. Give him lots of green juices, activated charcoal and bentonite baths in the meantime. Some quercetin to help w the allergic response might help too. If it itches, rub cocont oil mixed w a few drops of chamomile oil... > Blessings > Isa > > Isa > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > Need help - rash > > My son has an all-over rash that I'm concerned might be vitamin A toxicity or LDM die off. We did high-dose vitamin A on Monday and Tuesday of this week, and today is Friday and the rash is all over. It looks like a mild measles rash to me. It is not concentrated at his neck. > > Here's a timeline of events: > 1/5 started LDM 100, 5 drops 2x/day > 1/6 rash appears on upper back > 1/9 Vitamin A 300k, rash seems to decrease > 1/10 vitamin A 300k (continued with 10k Vitamin A on the days after) > 1/12 rash on back is almost gone > 1/13 rash gets red again and spreads to entire body > > So I may have made a mistake introducing too much at once. I am trying to decide whether to stop the vitamin A, the LDM, or to just push through this. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > Bethany > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 U r welcome! I forgot to say: try to keep the ldm dose at the minimum... Try not to drop it, ok?Rita and are the LDM experts... But I remember once you have the rash, you should lower the dose but not stop it.Girls, please chime in!X0IsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 02:37:52 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Need help - rash Isa,Thanks so much for your input! I think we are going to stop the vitamin A and hope the rash clears up. Thanks for the detox ideas, we need to use some of those. I would not have thought of the bentonite, but luckily I have some on hand!Bethany>> Hi bethany> I went through this w Enhansa. It gave my boy a full body rash w bumps and dryness. It was so bad I had to give him al aldosterone shot. It wouldn't go away. I would say, stop the vit a, I honestly believe this comes from the ldm, not necessarily a bad thing to see, but I suggest you give his body only one thing to work with at a time. Give him lots of green juices, activated charcoal and bentonite baths in the meantime. Some quercetin to help w the allergic response might help too. If it itches, rub cocont oil mixed w a few drops of chamomile oil...> Blessings> Isa> > Isa> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel> > Need help - rash> > My son has an all-over rash that I'm concerned might be vitamin A toxicity or LDM die off. We did high-dose vitamin A on Monday and Tuesday of this week, and today is Friday and the rash is all over. It looks like a mild measles rash to me. It is not concentrated at his neck.> > Here's a timeline of events:> 1/5 started LDM 100, 5 drops 2x/day> 1/6 rash appears on upper back> 1/9 Vitamin A 300k, rash seems to decrease> 1/10 vitamin A 300k (continued with 10k Vitamin A on the days after)> 1/12 rash on back is almost gone> 1/13 rash gets red again and spreads to entire body> > So I may have made a mistake introducing too much at once. I am trying to decide whether to stop the vitamin A, the LDM, or to just push through this.> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.> > Bethany> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 My son had a similar reaction years back when starting LDM. I took photos of the rash, let me know and I can email them to you to compare. The rash was so concentrated on his fingers that it looked like they were swollen. The rash was gone in about one week and we continue to give him LDM and have not seen the rash again. > > > > Hi bethany > > I went through this w Enhansa. It gave my boy a full body rash w bumps and dryness. It was so bad I had to give him al aldosterone shot. It wouldn't go away. I would say, stop the vit a, I honestly believe this comes from the ldm, not necessarily a bad thing to see, but I suggest you give his body only one thing to work with at a time. Give him lots of green juices, activated charcoal and bentonite baths in the meantime. Some quercetin to help w the allergic response might help too. If it itches, rub cocont oil mixed w a few drops of chamomile oil... > > Blessings > > Isa > > > > Isa > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > Need help - rash > > > > My son has an all-over rash that I'm concerned might be vitamin A toxicity or LDM die off. We did high-dose vitamin A on Monday and Tuesday of this week, and today is Friday and the rash is all over. It looks like a mild measles rash to me. It is not concentrated at his neck. > > > > Here's a timeline of events: > > 1/5 started LDM 100, 5 drops 2x/day > > 1/6 rash appears on upper back > > 1/9 Vitamin A 300k, rash seems to decrease > > 1/10 vitamin A 300k (continued with 10k Vitamin A on the days after) > > 1/12 rash on back is almost gone > > 1/13 rash gets red again and spreads to entire body > > > > So I may have made a mistake introducing too much at once. I am trying to decide whether to stop the vitamin A, the LDM, or to just push through this. > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > > > Bethany > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Wow - did you notice any improvements after the rash cleared? Kim > > My son had a similar reaction years back when starting LDM. I took photos of the rash, let me know and I can email them to you to compare. The rash was so concentrated on his fingers that it looked like they were swollen. The rash was gone in about one week and we continue to give him LDM and have not seen the rash again. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 That's a good idea, maybe lower it from 5 drops 2x/day to 3 drops. > > > > Hi bethany > > I went through this w Enhansa. It gave my boy a full body rash w bumps and dryness. It was so bad I had to give him al aldosterone shot. It wouldn't go away. I would say, stop the vit a, I honestly believe this comes from the ldm, not necessarily a bad thing to see, but I suggest you give his body only one thing to work with at a time. Give him lots of green juices, activated charcoal and bentonite baths in the meantime. Some quercetin to help w the allergic response might help too. If it itches, rub cocont oil mixed w a few drops of chamomile oil... > > Blessings > > Isa > > > > Isa > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > Need help - rash > > > > My son has an all-over rash that I'm concerned might be vitamin A toxicity or LDM die off. We did high-dose vitamin A on Monday and Tuesday of this week, and today is Friday and the rash is all over. It looks like a mild measles rash to me. It is not concentrated at his neck. > > > > Here's a timeline of events: > > 1/5 started LDM 100, 5 drops 2x/day > > 1/6 rash appears on upper back > > 1/9 Vitamin A 300k, rash seems to decrease > > 1/10 vitamin A 300k (continued with 10k Vitamin A on the days after) > > 1/12 rash on back is almost gone > > 1/13 rash gets red again and spreads to entire body > > > > So I may have made a mistake introducing too much at once. I am trying to decide whether to stop the vitamin A, the LDM, or to just push through this. > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > > > Bethany > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 I just remembered that we also started combining the LDM 100 with immusist three days ago. That probably has something to do with this. > > > > > > Hi bethany > > > I went through this w Enhansa. It gave my boy a full body rash w bumps and dryness. It was so bad I had to give him al aldosterone shot. It wouldn't go away. I would say, stop the vit a, I honestly believe this comes from the ldm, not necessarily a bad thing to see, but I suggest you give his body only one thing to work with at a time. Give him lots of green juices, activated charcoal and bentonite baths in the meantime. Some quercetin to help w the allergic response might help too. If it itches, rub cocont oil mixed w a few drops of chamomile oil... > > > Blessings > > > Isa > > > > > > Isa > > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > Need help - rash > > > > > > My son has an all-over rash that I'm concerned might be vitamin A toxicity or LDM die off. We did high-dose vitamin A on Monday and Tuesday of this week, and today is Friday and the rash is all over. It looks like a mild measles rash to me. It is not concentrated at his neck. > > > > > > Here's a timeline of events: > > > 1/5 started LDM 100, 5 drops 2x/day > > > 1/6 rash appears on upper back > > > 1/9 Vitamin A 300k, rash seems to decrease > > > 1/10 vitamin A 300k (continued with 10k Vitamin A on the days after) > > > 1/12 rash on back is almost gone > > > 1/13 rash gets red again and spreads to entire body > > > > > > So I may have made a mistake introducing too much at once. I am trying to decide whether to stop the vitamin A, the LDM, or to just push through this. > > > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > > > > > Bethany > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 My son has so many issues it's hard to tell if LDM helped. I did not observe any gains after the rash cleared, but that is not to say that it didn't help. LDM has been the one time he has ever gotten a rash or a direct, tangible reaction to anything that we've tried....and we've tried a lot. That being said, he now gets one full dropper of LDM three times daily and he handles it well. > > > > My son had a similar reaction years back when starting LDM. I took photos of the rash, let me know and I can email them to you to compare. The rash was so concentrated on his fingers that it looked like they were swollen. The rash was gone in about one week and we continue to give him LDM and have not seen the rash again. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Thanks for the details. I hope it is indeed helping your child in some way... Kim > > My son has so many issues it's hard to tell if LDM helped. I did not observe any gains after the rash cleared, but that is not to say that it didn't help. LDM has been the one time he has ever gotten a rash or a direct, tangible reaction to anything that we've tried....and we've tried a lot. That being said, he now gets one full dropper of LDM three times daily and he handles it well. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Bethany, How He Doing Now? It's been a busy weekend & didn't get on the computer till now...sorry I'm just seeing this.... & thanks to all that pitched in! The best place to get pics of the rash are in this groups " Photos " ...lots of good pics. Info on the rash & what to use on it is in this Groups " Files " on the LDM-100 Recap Info....here's what to expect w/the LDM-100 rash from the Recap: " 13. RASH COMMENTS: The rash as reported has occurred from day 4, but generally it appears on days 8-9. Do not use items on the skin that can clog the pours. To calm the skin irritation we are using Neem and Aloe Vera lotion and/or Calendula. The general rash schedule is: The Rash normally breaks out on day 8-9 1st day - light rash 2nd day heaviest rash day 3rd day - tend to group together & lighting up on the face/neck 4th day - really starting to light up on body- mostly on legs/feet this day 5th day almost gone 6th day - only see a few 7th day completely gone It has been pretty predictable. Our group has actually planned doctor's visits and vacation plans around it. " You've got a lot of things on board...any 1 of them can detox into a rash....all of them in such a short time is pretty strong (I highly recommend others separate these out as to not overstress). I layed your dates out on the calendar....w/you starting LDM-100 on January 5th that puts the 13th at day 8...a typical day for breaking out in the LDM-100 detox rash.....so I'm sure that's what you are dealing w/ on the 13th (rash starting the 8th day). What's going on before that could very well be further push by the Vit A as the LDM-100 & Immusist we're also working ( & making the cell slippery made them weeker & more vunerable as well). With the high amount of toxins that have now dumped in this detox I'm sure the liver is working double-time to keep up w/the toxin dump. I liked the suggestion of lowering down to 3 drops....slowing it down will give the body a few less toxins to deal with. It also helps to have good liver supports on board...the Immusist is actually a liver support...but do not increase it, keep it on & I'd add something like Dandelion Root. For more liver supports, here's a copy of DrA's Liver Support slide from the WA TACA meeting PowerPoint presentation: " Liver Support (Suspect this is needed when the bowels are sluggish and your child is not tolerating any medications and is sensitive to most supplements and foods) – Dandelion Root – Ultrathistle (milk thistle product that is easier to absorb) – Liver Life by BioRay (www.bioray2000.com) – Castor oil packs over the liver with heat for up to 50 minutes daily – Coffee enemas, especially when Herxing (not on very young children) – Ensuring regular bowel movements – Treating candida/yeast – Phosphatidyl Choline and Glutathione – Designs for Health PaleoCleanse or Amino D-tox – Laser I'd not recommend doing LDM-100 & VitA together again....LDM-100 is really strong by itself. While the body is detoxing in such a strong manner, I'd not add anymore things till the body is further stabalized & I'd remove the VitA at minumum....add on liver supports & lots of water to help flush the die-off. I'll make sure & check the group every day right now while you have this going on....please keep us posted. You're in my prayers, Rita > > > > > > > > Hi bethany > > > > I went through this w Enhansa. It gave my boy a full body rash w bumps and dryness. It was so bad I had to give him al aldosterone shot. It wouldn't go away. I would say, stop the vit a, I honestly believe this comes from the ldm, not necessarily a bad thing to see, but I suggest you give his body only one thing to work with at a time. Give him lots of green juices, activated charcoal and bentonite baths in the meantime. Some quercetin to help w the allergic response might help too. If it itches, rub cocont oil mixed w a few drops of chamomile oil... > > > > Blessings > > > > Isa > > > > > > > > Isa > > > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > > > Need help - rash > > > > > > > > My son has an all-over rash that I'm concerned might be vitamin A toxicity or LDM die off. We did high-dose vitamin A on Monday and Tuesday of this week, and today is Friday and the rash is all over. It looks like a mild measles rash to me. It is not concentrated at his neck. > > > > > > > > Here's a timeline of events: > > > > 1/5 started LDM 100, 5 drops 2x/day > > > > 1/6 rash appears on upper back > > > > 1/9 Vitamin A 300k, rash seems to decrease > > > > 1/10 vitamin A 300k (continued with 10k Vitamin A on the days after) > > > > 1/12 rash on back is almost gone > > > > 1/13 rash gets red again and spreads to entire body > > > > > > > > So I may have made a mistake introducing too much at once. I am trying to decide whether to stop the vitamin A, the LDM, or to just push through this. > > > > > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > Bethany > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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