Guest guest Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 The problem is that research has shown that when you REALLY needaffirmations, they fail.If you search the archive of the list serve you will find the referenceAs long as life is going well and people feel OK, they sort of work. Why?Affirmations contain a seed of " don't think this -- think that. " When you really need them, that seed grows into the usualrebound effect that comes from cognitive control My advice: as a soft flexibility exercise they are OKbut treat them very lightly. If you find they have any sense ofpush or struggle behind them, stop and stick with ACT methods. Affirmations are for days of light breezes, not heavy winds- S C. Foundation ProfessorDepartment of Psychology /298University of NevadaReno, NV 89557-0062 " Love isn't everything, it's the only thing " hayes@... or stevenchayes@...Fax: Psych Department: Contextual Change (you can use this number for messages if need be): Blogs: Psychology Today http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/get-out-your-mindHuffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-c-hayes-phd If you want my vita, publications, PowerPoint slides, try my training page: http://contextualpsychology.org/steve_hayesor you can try my website (it is semi-functional) stevenchayes.com If you have any questions about ACT or RFT (articles, AAQ information etc), please first check the vast resources at website of the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS): www.contextualpsychology.org. You have to register on the site to download things, but the cost is up to your own values. If you are a professional or student and want to be part of the world wide ACT discussion or RFT discussions, join the ACT list: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/join or the RFT list:http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/relationalframetheory/joinIf you are a member of the public reading ACT self-help books (e.g., " Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life " etc) and want to be part of that conversation go to: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ACT_for_the_Public/join > > I think there are obvious conflicts between ACT and positive affirmations. > Also conflicts between positive affirmations and CBT or REBT*. > > I think, not even considering ACT, CBT or REBT, and just looking at > positive affirmations, there are problems with it - and more generally > there are problems with positive thinking. Positive > Psychology<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_psychology>, > on the other hand, I think is a good solid scientific branch of psychology > and is something quite different from positive affirmations or thinking. > > > > *CBT = Cognitive Behavior Therapy > REBT = Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy. > > Hi. Could you give some examples of how it can be in conflict with ACT, CBT etc. and also how positive affirmations and positive thinking can be problematic in general? Besides that exaggareted optimism can do more harm than good. Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 And if you insist on affirmation, I say go with everyone's favorite caring and nurturing person, Stuart Smalley. http://youtu.be/6ldAQ6Rh5ZI The problem is that research has shown that when you REALLY needaffirmations, they fail.If you search the archive of the list serve you will find the reference As long as life is going well and people feel OK, they sort of work. Why?Affirmations contain a seed of " don't think this -- think that. " When you really need them, that seed grows into the usualrebound effect that comes from cognitive control My advice: as a soft flexibility exercise they are OKbut treat them very lightly. If you find they have any sense ofpush or struggle behind them, stop and stick with ACT methods. Affirmations are for days of light breezes, not heavy winds- S C. Foundation ProfessorDepartment of Psychology /298University of NevadaReno, NV 89557-0062 " Love isn't everything, it's the only thing " hayes@... or stevenchayes@...Fax: Psych Department: Contextual Change (you can use this number for messages if need be): Blogs: Psychology Today http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/get-out-your-mindHuffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-c-hayes-phd If you want my vita, publications, PowerPoint slides, try my training page: http://contextualpsychology.org/steve_hayesor you can try my website (it is semi-functional) stevenchayes.com If you have any questions about ACT or RFT (articles, AAQ information etc), please first check the vast resources at website of the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS): www.contextualpsychology.org. You have to register on the site to download things, but the cost is up to your own values. If you are a professional or student and want to be part of the world wide ACT discussion or RFT discussions, join the ACT list: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/join or the RFT list:http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/relationalframetheory/joinIf you are a member of the public reading ACT self-help books (e.g., " Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life " etc) and want to be part of that conversation go to: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ACT_for_the_Public/join > > I think there are obvious conflicts between ACT and positive affirmations. > Also conflicts between positive affirmations and CBT or REBT*. > > I think, not even considering ACT, CBT or REBT, and just looking at > positive affirmations, there are problems with it - and more generally > there are problems with positive thinking. Positive > Psychology<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_psychology>, > on the other hand, I think is a good solid scientific branch of psychology > and is something quite different from positive affirmations or thinking. > > > > *CBT = Cognitive Behavior Therapy > REBT = Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy. > > Hi. Could you give some examples of how it can be in conflict with ACT, CBT etc. and also how positive affirmations and positive thinking can be problematic in general? Besides that exaggareted optimism can do more harm than good. Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 Thank you that made me laugh this morning :-)Sent from my iPhone And if you insist on affirmation, I say go with everyone's favorite caring and nurturing person, Stuart Smalley. http://youtu.be/6ldAQ6Rh5ZI The problem is that research has shown that when you REALLY needaffirmations, they fail.If you search the archive of the list serve you will find the reference As long as life is going well and people feel OK, they sort of work. Why?Affirmations contain a seed of "don't think this -- think that."When you really need them, that seed grows into the usualrebound effect that comes from cognitive control My advice: as a soft flexibility exercise they are OKbut treat them very lightly. If you find they have any sense ofpush or struggle behind them, stop and stick with ACT methods. Affirmations are for days of light breezes, not heavy winds- S C. Foundation ProfessorDepartment of Psychology /298University of NevadaReno, NV 89557-0062"Love isn't everything, it's the only thing" hayes@... or stevenchayes@...Fax: Psych Department: Contextual Change (you can use this number for messages if need be): Blogs: Psychology Today http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/get-out-your-mindHuffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-c-hayes-phd If you want my vita, publications, PowerPoint slides, try my training page: http://contextualpsychology.org/steve_hayesor you can try my website (it is semi-functional) stevenchayes.com If you have any questions about ACT or RFT (articles, AAQ information etc), please first check the vast resources at website of the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS): www.contextualpsychology.org. You have to register on the site to download things, but the cost is up to your own values. If you are a professional or student and want to be part of the world wide ACT discussion or RFT discussions, join the ACT list: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/join or the RFT list:http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/relationalframetheory/joinIf you are a member of the public reading ACT self-help books (e.g., "Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life" etc) and want to be part of that conversation go to: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ACT_for_the_Public/join > > I think there are obvious conflicts between ACT and positive affirmations. > Also conflicts between positive affirmations and CBT or REBT*. > > I think, not even considering ACT, CBT or REBT, and just looking at > positive affirmations, there are problems with it - and more generally > there are problems with positive thinking. Positive > Psychology<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_psychology>, > on the other hand, I think is a good solid scientific branch of psychology > and is something quite different from positive affirmations or thinking. > > > > *CBT = Cognitive Behavior Therapy > REBT = Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy. > > Hi. Could you give some examples of how it can be in conflict with ACT, CBT etc. and also how positive affirmations and positive thinking can be problematic in general? Besides that exaggareted optimism can do more harm than good. Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 I'm glad Tara. I figure after watching Stuart, it'll be much easier to take one's affirmations lightly. Thank you that made me laugh this morning :-)Sent from my iPhone And if you insist on affirmation, I say go with everyone's favorite caring and nurturing person, Stuart Smalley. http://youtu.be/6ldAQ6Rh5ZI The problem is that research has shown that when you REALLY needaffirmations, they fail.If you search the archive of the list serve you will find the reference As long as life is going well and people feel OK, they sort of work. Why?Affirmations contain a seed of " don't think this -- think that. " When you really need them, that seed grows into the usualrebound effect that comes from cognitive control My advice: as a soft flexibility exercise they are OKbut treat them very lightly. If you find they have any sense ofpush or struggle behind them, stop and stick with ACT methods. Affirmations are for days of light breezes, not heavy winds- S C. Foundation ProfessorDepartment of Psychology /298University of NevadaReno, NV 89557-0062 " Love isn't everything, it's the only thing " hayes@... or stevenchayes@... Fax: Psych Department: Contextual Change (you can use this number for messages if need be): Blogs: Psychology Today http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/get-out-your-mind Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-c-hayes-phd If you want my vita, publications, PowerPoint slides, try my training page: http://contextualpsychology.org/steve_hayes or you can try my website (it is semi-functional) stevenchayes.com If you have any questions about ACT or RFT (articles, AAQ information etc), please first check the vast resources at website of the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS): www.contextualpsychology.org. You have to register on the site to download things, but the cost is up to your own values. If you are a professional or student and want to be part of the world wide ACT discussion or RFT discussions, join the ACT list: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/join or the RFT list:http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/relationalframetheory/join If you are a member of the public reading ACT self-help books (e.g., " Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life " etc) and want to be part of that conversation go to: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ACT_for_the_Public/join > > I think there are obvious conflicts between ACT and positive affirmations. > Also conflicts between positive affirmations and CBT or REBT*. > > I think, not even considering ACT, CBT or REBT, and just looking at > positive affirmations, there are problems with it - and more generally > there are problems with positive thinking. Positive > Psychology<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_psychology>, > on the other hand, I think is a good solid scientific branch of psychology > and is something quite different from positive affirmations or thinking. > > > > *CBT = Cognitive Behavior Therapy > REBT = Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy. > > Hi. Could you give some examples of how it can be in conflict with ACT, CBT etc. and also how positive affirmations and positive thinking can be problematic in general? Besides that exaggareted optimism can do more harm than good. Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 or folks might like to do this instead? More ACT consistent? Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 23:08Subject: Re: Re: Positive affirmations I'm glad Tara. I figure after watching Stuart, it'll be much easier to take one's affirmations lightly. Thank you that made me laugh this morning :-)Sent from my iPhone And if you insist on affirmation, I say go with everyone's favorite caring and nurturing person, Stuart Smalley. http://youtu.be/6ldAQ6Rh5ZI The problem is that research has shown that when you REALLY need affirmations, they fail. If you search the archive of the list serve you will find the reference As long as life is going well and people feel OK, they sort of work. Why? Affirmations contain a seed of "don't think this -- think that." When you really need them, that seed grows into the usual rebound effect that comes from cognitive control My advice: as a soft flexibility exercise they are OK but treat them very lightly. If you find they have any sense of push or struggle behind them, stop and stick with ACT methods. Affirmations are for days of light breezes, not heavy winds - S C. Foundation ProfessorDepartment of Psychology /298University of NevadaReno, NV 89557-0062"Love isn't everything, it's the only thing"hayes@... or stevenchayes@...Fax: Psych Department: Contextual Change (you can use this number for messages if need be): Blogs: Psychology Today http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/get-out-your-mindHuffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-c-hayes-phdIf you want my vita, publications, PowerPoint slides, try my training page: http://contextualpsychology.org/steve_hayesor you can try my website (it is semi-functional) stevenchayes.comIf you have any questions about ACT or RFT (articles, AAQ information etc), please first check the vast resources at website of the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS): www.contextualpsychology.org. You have to register on the site to download things, but the cost is up to your own values. If you are a professional or student and want to be part of the world wide ACT discussion or RFT discussions, join the ACT list: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/joinor the RFT list:http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/relationalframetheory/joinIf you are a member of the public reading ACT self-help books (e.g., "Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life" etc) and want to be part of that conversation go to: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ACT_for_the_Public/join >> I think there are obvious conflicts between ACT and positive affirmations.> Also conflicts between positive affirmations and CBT or REBT*.> > I think, not even considering ACT, CBT or REBT, and just looking at> positive affirmations, there are problems with it - and more generally> there are problems with positive thinking. Positive> Psychology<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_psychology>, > on the other hand, I think is a good solid scientific branch of psychology> and is something quite different from positive affirmations or thinking.> > > > *CBT = Cognitive Behavior Therapy> REBT = Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy.> > Hi. Could you give some examples of how it can be in conflict with ACT, CBT etc. and also how positive affirmations and positive thinking can be problematic in general? Besides that exaggareted optimism can do more harm than good. Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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