Re: feeling of overwhelming

[Guest guest]

That sounds like a very personal let down. you are wonderful just as you

are, where ever you are. I know racism is everywhere, I lived in a country of

black people so I experienced it as well, not everyone is like that. I'm glad

you were able to assert your broad mind, a much more effective life response

than the obvious narrow view that you encountered.

Lou

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> I am not sure if it is appropriate to put the post here, I just experience

open verbal discrimination today because of my background , I feel

overwhelming, I did not act overwhelming, I speak up, express my anger in mature

way and left the situation.

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> I know that is ENOUGH for this, I let go in reality, but when I back home. My

mind can not let this go, I experience overwhelming feeling of angry and images(

in this images, I slapped the woman's face, But I definitely won't do this in

reality), slowly I try to recognize that thoughts just thoughts and image just

image and let it go......

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> when I feel a bit calm, I find that I do NOT NEED to put onto this abuse, In

the past, I feel weak and do not have action power, I even could not see many

options, Now I find I do not need to stay in this country(Australia). I can

travel around the world next year and I can find better place, do your guys in

North America experience this kind rubbish? I may travel US, Canada, Hongkong,

Singapore and find better place to getter better job and life. I can not change

the world but I can do whatever best for myself.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lou for your warm and quick response!

I feel better now. Just got a few days in beach,swimming, enjoying, come back

encounter this situation. Yes, most people are not like that

I will still travel in 2012, for values of expanding/make best use of my life

but not for resentment

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I am reading your last post of " out of valley " . your writing is poetic. I

experience you as both highly intelligent and highly emotional--- maybe a bit

like myself in a few ways.

" Self " is mystical concept, different people will experience it in different way

in their spiritual journey/quest for meaning, very hard to describe... but knock

the door, it will open Yes, " spiritual self " , " observing self " or

" transcendent self " are similar term. many people feel deep connection with the

universe when experience the Self. like a drop melt into the ocean. therefore

people said " find God within " ,---- unconditional love flows from the true self,

out of the realization of connective of all things.

I have read Carl Jung's work, to Jung, trauma like destiny which drag people

out of normal life, healing not only recovered old self, but he/she become much

larger person than before. There is words: (I forget who said) " pain is heavy

fruit, it only grow because the tree can bear it " . someone believe there is

meaning in everything, so do I.

(I understand in this group people have different beliefs, which I deeply

respect, our belief because of our past experience, that's very fine!!!! this

post of course is ONLY my personal opinion)

To my understanding, forgiveness will come naturally in divine time, this can

not be forced, when we suffer from lost, we need to process anger,pain...feel

resentment, this is health healing process, but open heart to broader view,

know that forgiveness eventually will come, like sun follows the rain....

warm regards

Jess

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> > I am not sure if it is appropriate to put the post here, I just experience

open verbal discrimination today because of my background , I feel

overwhelming, I did not act overwhelming, I speak up, express my anger in mature

way and left the situation.

> >

> > I know that is ENOUGH for this, I let go in reality, but when I back home.

My mind can not let this go, I experience overwhelming feeling of angry and

images( in this images, I slapped the woman's face, But I definitely won't do

this in reality), slowly I try to recognize that thoughts just thoughts and

image just image and let it go......

> >

> >

> > when I feel a bit calm, I find that I do NOT NEED to put onto this abuse, In

the past, I feel weak and do not have action power, I even could not see many

options, Now I find I do not need to stay in this country(Australia). I can

travel around the world next year and I can find better place, do your guys in

North America experience this kind rubbish? I may travel US, Canada, Hongkong,

Singapore and find better place to getter better job and life. I can not change

the world but I can do whatever best for myself.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,Your message wasn't clear on what the discrimination was about. Was it your race, religion, beliefs in general?Without knowing your circumstances, all I can offer is my own experience with racial discrimination.I was six years old when my family moved from Germany to Australia in 1956. As a young German boy in a predominantly Anglo country, I was subjected to a lot of abuse, not only due to my nationality, but also because I couldn't speak English. I figured my learning of the language might have occurred in record time as a result!Today I make my living correcting native English-speakers' use of their own language. Go figure.That's probably of little help to you, but the defense strategy I developed was to try to be somehow smarter than my abusers. That strategy wasn't of much help back then -- I "suffered in silence" -- but years later it did help, because I began to understand how people are influenced and limited by their immediate surroundings; ie, if you are born into Indian society, chances are you'll be indoctrinated into the Hindu religion. Ditto any other society you care to look at. Here in '50s Australia, the overwhelming majority of folks classified themselves as one variety of Christian or another, and anyone who wasn't, such as Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, or any other faith, were viewed with suspicion.These days, Australia's a much more secular society, and people generally don't ask what religion, if any, one follows, and consider it one's personal, private business -- an attitude I agree with. After all, first and foremost we are human creatures among many other creatures, and who has the right to say he or she is better or worse than any other living thing?Sorry for the length,Regards,Detlef>> I am not sure if it is appropriate to put the post here, I just experience open verbal discrimination today because of my background , I feel overwhelming, I did not act overwhelming, I speak up, express my anger in mature way and left the situation.> > I know that is ENOUGH for this, I let go in reality, but when I back home. My mind can not let this go, I experience overwhelming feeling of angry and images( in this images, I slapped the woman's face, But I definitely won't do this in reality), slowly I try to recognize that thoughts just thoughts and image just image and let it go......> > > when I feel a bit calm, I find that I do NOT NEED to put onto this abuse, In the past, I feel weak and do not have action power, I even could not see many options, Now I find I do not need to stay in this country(Australia). I can travel around the world next year and I can find better place, do your guys in North America experience this kind rubbish? I may travel US, Canada, Hongkong, Singapore and find better place to getter better job and life. I can not change the world but I can do whatever best for myself.>

[Guest guest]

Hi It sounds like you handled the situation incredibly well. You took ownership of the fact that you have been abused, and chose to stand up, speak up, and leave her with a piece of your mind, without falling into the trap of lowering yourself to her level and abusing her back. I dare say some countries have a more embracing

culture than others, but I can say without fear of contradiction that there will be pockets of ignorance and intolerance in any and every every society we could choose to live in. You'd only be disappointed if you chose to move to another country expecting to free yourself from prejudice.Anyway, nice one on today's performance! x To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Monday, 2 January 2012, 8:26 Subject: feeling of overwhelming I am not sure if it is appropriate to put the post here, I just experience open verbal discrimination today because of my background , I feel overwhelming, I did not act overwhelming, I speak up, express my anger in mature way and left the situation.I know that is ENOUGH for this, I let go in reality, but when I back home. My mind can not let this go, I experience overwhelming feeling of angry and images( in this images, I slapped the woman's

face,

But I definitely won't do this in reality), slowly I try to recognize that thoughts just thoughts and image just image and let it go......when I feel a bit calm, I find that I do NOT NEED to put onto this abuse, In the past, I feel weak and do not have action power, I even could not see many options, Now I find I do not need to stay in this country(Australia). I can travel around the world next year and I can find better place, do your guys in North America experience this kind rubbish? I may travel US, Canada, Hongkong, Singapore and find better place to getter better job and life. I can not change the world but I can do whatever best for myself. ------------------------------------For other ACT materials and list serves see www.contextualpsychology.orgIf you do not wish to belong to ACT_for_the_Public, you may unsubscribe by sending an email to ACT_for_the_Public-unsubscribe@...! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ACT_for_the_Public/<*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ACT_for_the_Public/join (Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email: ACT_for_the_Public-digest

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Your post reminded me of Khan's wonderful posts on this forum.

I won't tell her story of racial and religious discrimination or the way she has

embraced ACT and works to bring its teacings to her Muslim community here, since

she does it far better than I ever could. What I will say is that for me she is

an inspiration and a role model.

It's well worth a liitle of your time to read some of her posts. Her

understanding of ACT is extraordinary, as is her ability to live it every day

and share it with others. Here's a good one to start with:

http://tinyurl.com/88rmjqa

Cheers,

Stan

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> I am not sure if it is appropriate to put the post here, I just experience

open verbal discrimination today because of my background , I feel

overwhelming, I did not act overwhelming, I speak up, express my anger in mature

way and left the situation.

>

> I know that is ENOUGH for this, I let go in reality, but when I back home. My

mind can not let this go, I experience overwhelming feeling of angry and images(

in this images, I slapped the woman's face, But I definitely won't do this in

reality), slowly I try to recognize that thoughts just thoughts and image just

image and let it go......

>

>

> when I feel a bit calm, I find that I do NOT NEED to put onto this abuse, In

the past, I feel weak and do not have action power, I even could not see many

options, Now I find I do not need to stay in this country(Australia). I can

travel around the world next year and I can find better place, do your guys in

North America experience this kind rubbish? I may travel US, Canada, Hongkong,

Singapore and find better place to getter better job and life. I can not change

the world but I can do whatever best for myself.

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