Re: Butyrate/Immusist

[Guest guest]

Hi All;

Just thinking - I think Kane describes the very long chain fatty acids as prison

bars that imprison cells and make it difficult for things to enter/leave the

cell.

I know she says butyrate helps to burn off the VLCFAs...

Wondering if immusist would also help " free " the cells as it makes cells

slippery?

Kim

>

> I am a huge fan of searching Limin's posts, and she's a big proponent of PK

( Kane) protocol. You could just do a search for phospholipids with

posts by her. Here is a link to the cleanse we are imitating:

> http://howto.whnlive.com/PCDetox/#LevelA

>

> I think I was doing some research about something else, and ran into this link

about liposomal vitamin C:

> http://www.naturalnews.com/034646_vitamin_C_encapsulated_mega_dose.html

> and also read this, bodybio's advertisement for their phospholipid stuff:

> http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf

>

> And then I realized I couldn't afford the bodybio brand of phosphatidyl

choline, so I found a recipe here:

> http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1554530

>

> So it's a convoluted road, but that's how we got there. We are using the

bodybio brand of butyrate - it's the best deal I could find. And so far I am

adding nothing to the phospholipids. The stuff I am making in the ultrasonic

cleaner isn't as potent as the stuff you can buy from bodybio, but I think it

might be half as strong. Also we are using non-GMO lecithin.

>

> Bethany

[Guest guest]

http://www.bodybio.com/storeproduct427.aspx

Has anyone here tried this product? It goes along with the earlier link Bethany

provided to Biopure, which was:

http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf

I guess I am not understanding what this actually does. I read the article but

am still not clear on it. And it is very expensive so I would really

appreciate hearing back from someone who has used this before investing in it.

Thanks.

> >

> > I am a huge fan of searching Limin's posts, and she's a big proponent of PK

( Kane) protocol. You could just do a search for phospholipids with

posts by her. Here is a link to the cleanse we are imitating:

> > http://howto.whnlive.com/PCDetox/#LevelA

> >

> > I think I was doing some research about something else, and ran into this

link about liposomal vitamin C:

> > http://www.naturalnews.com/034646_vitamin_C_encapsulated_mega_dose.html

> > and also read this, bodybio's advertisement for their phospholipid stuff:

> > http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf

> >

> > And then I realized I couldn't afford the bodybio brand of phosphatidyl

choline, so I found a recipe here:

> > http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1554530

> >

> > So it's a convoluted road, but that's how we got there. We are using the

bodybio brand of butyrate - it's the best deal I could find. And so far I am

adding nothing to the phospholipids. The stuff I am making in the ultrasonic

cleaner isn't as potent as the stuff you can buy from bodybio, but I think it

might be half as strong. Also we are using non-GMO lecithin.

> >

> > Bethany

>

[Guest guest]

Kim,

I've been speaking w/MP about the interview we have been trying to schedule on

Immusist & his research (he's researched some GREAT info...can't wait for you

guys to hear it!!!!) In speaking w/him this morning it looks like the interview

will be in 10-17 days...I'll keep you posted after it's nailed down...

I would like your & Bethany's permission to ask that he address these in the

interview (which would mean I'd need to send him these 2 great posts so he can

address them directly). Thanks for your attension to this.

Blessings!!!

Rita

> >

> > I am a huge fan of searching Limin's posts, and she's a big proponent of PK

( Kane) protocol. You could just do a search for phospholipids with

posts by her. Here is a link to the cleanse we are imitating:

> > http://howto.whnlive.com/PCDetox/#LevelA

> >

> > I think I was doing some research about something else, and ran into this

link about liposomal vitamin C:

> > http://www.naturalnews.com/034646_vitamin_C_encapsulated_mega_dose.html

> > and also read this, bodybio's advertisement for their phospholipid stuff:

> > http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf

> >

> > And then I realized I couldn't afford the bodybio brand of phosphatidyl

choline, so I found a recipe here:

> > http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1554530

> >

> > So it's a convoluted road, but that's how we got there. We are using the

bodybio brand of butyrate - it's the best deal I could find. And so far I am

adding nothing to the phospholipids. The stuff I am making in the ultrasonic

cleaner isn't as potent as the stuff you can buy from bodybio, but I think it

might be half as strong. Also we are using non-GMO lecithin.

> >

> > Bethany

>

[Guest guest]

Most definitely - please use my question Rita! Can't wait to hear the interview

Kim

>

> Kim,

> I've been speaking w/MP about the interview we have been trying to schedule on

Immusist & his research (he's researched some GREAT info...can't wait for you

guys to hear it!!!!) In speaking w/him this morning it looks like the interview

will be in 10-17 days...I'll keep you posted after it's nailed down...

> I would like your & Bethany's permission to ask that he address these in the

interview (which would mean I'd need to send him these 2 great posts so he can

address them directly). Thanks for your attension to this.

> Blessings!!!

> Rita

>

[Guest guest]

That's fine! I'd be very curious to hear his opinion...combining immusist with

butyrate has really got me thinking.

> > >

> > > I am a huge fan of searching Limin's posts, and she's a big proponent of

PK ( Kane) protocol. You could just do a search for phospholipids with

posts by her. Here is a link to the cleanse we are imitating:

> > > http://howto.whnlive.com/PCDetox/#LevelA

> > >

> > > I think I was doing some research about something else, and ran into this

link about liposomal vitamin C:

> > > http://www.naturalnews.com/034646_vitamin_C_encapsulated_mega_dose.html

> > > and also read this, bodybio's advertisement for their phospholipid stuff:

> > >

http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf

> > >

> > > And then I realized I couldn't afford the bodybio brand of phosphatidyl

choline, so I found a recipe here:

> > > http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1554530

> > >

> > > So it's a convoluted road, but that's how we got there. We are using the

bodybio brand of butyrate - it's the best deal I could find. And so far I am

adding nothing to the phospholipids. The stuff I am making in the ultrasonic

cleaner isn't as potent as the stuff you can buy from bodybio, but I think it

might be half as strong. Also we are using non-GMO lecithin.

> > >

> > > Bethany

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Oh my gosh...you guys got a whole other brand off brillaince goin on over here!

i read the links posted by bethany..great info!

channa

> > > >

> > > > I am a huge fan of searching Limin's posts, and she's a big proponent of

PK ( Kane) protocol. You could just do a search for phospholipids with

posts by her. Here is a link to the cleanse we are imitating:

> > > > http://howto.whnlive.com/PCDetox/#LevelA

> > > >

> > > > I think I was doing some research about something else, and ran into

this link about liposomal vitamin C:

> > > > http://www.naturalnews.com/034646_vitamin_C_encapsulated_mega_dose.html

> > > > and also read this, bodybio's advertisement for their phospholipid

stuff:

> > > >

http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf

> > > >

> > > > And then I realized I couldn't afford the bodybio brand of phosphatidyl

choline, so I found a recipe here:

> > > > http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1554530

> > > >

> > > > So it's a convoluted road, but that's how we got there. We are using

the bodybio brand of butyrate - it's the best deal I could find. And so far I

am adding nothing to the phospholipids. The stuff I am making in the ultrasonic

cleaner isn't as potent as the stuff you can buy from bodybio, but I think it

might be half as strong. Also we are using non-GMO lecithin.

> > > >

> > > > Bethany

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

oh was wondering what is vclfa stand for ?

channa

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[Guest guest]

Very long chain fatty acids

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Wed, February 15, 2012 3:57:29 PMSubject: Re: Butyrate/Immusist

oh was wondering what is vclfa stand for ?channa--- In

[Guest guest]

I have another question for any immusist experts...I'm wondering if it could

help deal with magnesium stearate. I am only now beginning to realize how yucky

this stuff is...I can't afford to replace everything I have with it at the

moment, but am doing so gradually. So in the meantime, do you think immusist

could help break up magnesium stearate so that supplements could be " gotten to "

by the GI tract? Also, does anyone know of anything that magneseium stearate

dissolves in? (hey, maybe I should try combining it with immusist directly...)

I am thinking about my homemade transdermal stuff. Can you use immusist

transdermally? Thinking out loud.

Thanks,

Bethany

> > > > >

> > > > > I am a huge fan of searching Limin's posts, and she's a big proponent

of PK ( Kane) protocol. You could just do a search for phospholipids

with posts by her. Here is a link to the cleanse we are imitating:

> > > > > http://howto.whnlive.com/PCDetox/#LevelA

> > > > >

> > > > > I think I was doing some research about something else, and ran into

this link about liposomal vitamin C:

> > > > >

http://www.naturalnews.com/034646_vitamin_C_encapsulated_mega_dose.html

> > > > > and also read this, bodybio's advertisement for their phospholipid

stuff:

> > > > >

http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf

> > > > >

> > > > > And then I realized I couldn't afford the bodybio brand of

phosphatidyl choline, so I found a recipe here:

> > > > > http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1554530

> > > > >

> > > > > So it's a convoluted road, but that's how we got there. We are using

the bodybio brand of butyrate - it's the best deal I could find. And so far I

am adding nothing to the phospholipids. The stuff I am making in the ultrasonic

cleaner isn't as potent as the stuff you can buy from bodybio, but I think it

might be half as strong. Also we are using non-GMO lecithin.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bethany

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Bethany,

I use Immusist transdermally quite a bit as it's my understanding that it aids

in absorption there too.

In speaking with MP he gave me additional tips to research surfactants, so in

preparation for the soon upcoming interview on Immusist I've been doing quite a

bit of research. I'll post some of this next. Some of this research talks about

them using surfactants w/mucas (including digestive) to help aid

absorption...gross & cool @ the same time ;o) This being said because in

researching (but not directly tested) I'd say yes, the Immusist could help break

down things so the supplements could be " gotten to " ...I believe through the

resent research that it is also helping heal the digestion & " leaky gut " issues.

With our WA groups we are certainly seeing this. As I've said before, the only

thing I added last year was the Immusist & it finally brought him out of a

mineral derrangement pattern that I've been fighting for 7 years (per DD hair

report). One of our other children in WA in 9 months has gone from the " worst

leaky gut " one of our docs has ever seen to just a few foods faster than anyone

we've ever seen...the main thing he's taken for 9 months is the Immusist.

I'm working on the interview w/MP this weekend as I'll be talking w/him further

about it on Monday.....being such a novice I'm nervous but so excited for us

here some of the further research. I'll give details as I speak w/him further.

Blessings,

Rita

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am a huge fan of searching Limin's posts, and she's a big

proponent of PK ( Kane) protocol. You could just do a search for

phospholipids with posts by her. Here is a link to the cleanse we are

imitating:

> > > > > > http://howto.whnlive.com/PCDetox/#LevelA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think I was doing some research about something else, and ran into

this link about liposomal vitamin C:

> > > > > >

http://www.naturalnews.com/034646_vitamin_C_encapsulated_mega_dose.html

> > > > > > and also read this, bodybio's advertisement for their phospholipid

stuff:

> > > > > >

http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And then I realized I couldn't afford the bodybio brand of

phosphatidyl choline, so I found a recipe here:

> > > > > > http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1554530

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So it's a convoluted road, but that's how we got there. We are

using the bodybio brand of butyrate - it's the best deal I could find. And so

far I am adding nothing to the phospholipids. The stuff I am making in the

ultrasonic cleaner isn't as potent as the stuff you can buy from bodybio, but I

think it might be half as strong. Also we are using non-GMO lecithin.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bethany

> > > > >

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> > >

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