Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Hi All - I'm wondering if anyone has any OT type strategies that might help me with my dd's constant need for deep pressure? (Yes, I am aware it's probably virus/pain/inflammation/bugs/parasites - looking for strategies to help deal with the pressing until I can heal the issues causing the behavour). She wants/needs to press her forehead and nose into my cheek whenever she comes near me. It's getting to the point of getting bruises on my cheeks. I am trying to get her to use my hand for presses... Thanks! Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Wonder if an speech therapist or OT can give you teach you some facial exercises to help relieve pressure or drain some lymph glands thru massage? Maybe using some of the inflammation supplements too? A suggestion: incense essential oil - a drop or two in a clear capsule - 1 -2 times a day Maybe even massaging incense - diluted with some carrier oil on to her face would help too? ( I like Young Living oils, organic - there are other companies as well) HTH's Allie > > Hi All - > > I'm wondering if anyone has any OT type strategies that might help me with my dd's constant need for deep pressure? (Yes, I am aware it's probably virus/pain/inflammation/bugs/parasites - looking for strategies to help deal with the pressing until I can heal the issues causing the behavour). > > She wants/needs to press her forehead and nose into my cheek whenever she comes near me. It's getting to the point of getting bruises on my cheeks. > I am trying to get her to use my hand for presses... > Thanks! > Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 We did CCDT therapy that had a deep pressure protocol essentially using your thumb and pretty heavy pressure and pushing your thumb only around the perimeter of her face, about 1 " apart, encircling the face, then across the upper lip. If you did this preventatively about 3x a day, perhaps with meals or supps. she wouldn't need so much inappropriate seeking of the deep pressure. let me see if I can find a link to the protocol, but it's easy, you should have some good results with the explanation above. hth Roseann Re: Face pressing Wonder if an speech therapist or OT can give you teach you some facial exercises to help relieve pressure or drain some lymph glands thru massage? Maybe using some of the inflammation supplements too? A suggestion: incense essential oil - a drop or two in a clear capsule - 1 -2 times a day Maybe even massaging incense - diluted with some carrier oil on to her face would help too? ( I like Young Living oils, organic - there are other companies as well) HTH's Allie > > Hi All - > > I'm wondering if anyone has any OT type strategies that might help me with my dd's constant need for deep pressure? (Yes, I am aware it's probably virus/pain/inflammation/bugs/parasites - looking for strategies to help deal with the pressing until I can heal the issues causing the behavour). > > She wants/needs to press her forehead and nose into my cheek whenever she comes near me. It's getting to the point of getting bruises on my cheeks. > I am trying to get her to use my hand for presses... > Thanks! > Kim > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Thanks for the great suggestions Allie and Roseann. I'll look into those... I know she needs the deep pressure, but my face hurts at the end of the day. Probably only a fraction of what she actually feels Kim > > We did CCDT therapy that had a deep pressure protocol essentially using your thumb and pretty heavy pressure and pushing your thumb only around the perimeter of her face, about 1 " apart, encircling the face, then across the upper lip. If you did this preventatively about 3x a day, perhaps with meals or supps. she wouldn't need so much inappropriate seeking of the deep pressure. let me see if I can find a link to the protocol, but it's easy, you should have some good results with the explanation above. > hth > > > Roseann > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Kim, Couple of things come to mind. A few years ago in DrK's ASD conference he showed us how to do this deep pressure head compression with our mom hands...if I remember right it was to increase stimulation. I remember this particularly because my dear friend that is an RN & licensed massage therapist went up to volunteer as she wanted it done personally from DrK...she's a hands on kinda gal that wanted to feel the actual pressure herself. She then did it on me later....hummm wonder if we could get that part of the conference to show you. You put your hands fingertips up on each side of the head....palms right around/slightly behind the ears. With controlled pressure you press in & up (the fingertips on both sides of the head move together. Hold for a short time then release...try it on yourself 1st to feel the hang of it. Have you had them adjusted lately, especially the cranial nerves...Quantum Neurology would be great for this. If you have a laser, I'd use it on the top of the neck & top of the head. use to take the stimulator gun that was used in QN & just put it on his cheek...looked like it would hurt but he loved it....I think he had some sinus pain or something.... Just some thoughts.... Blessings, Rita > > > > We did CCDT therapy that had a deep pressure protocol essentially using your thumb and pretty heavy pressure and pushing your thumb only around the perimeter of her face, about 1 " apart, encircling the face, then across the upper lip. If you did this preventatively about 3x a day, perhaps with meals or supps. she wouldn't need so much inappropriate seeking of the deep pressure. let me see if I can find a link to the protocol, but it's easy, you should have some good results with the explanation above. > > hth > > > > > > Roseann > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 My kids did this, plus I have seen several posts about spectrum kids doing this. I don't know why. I moved when they tried to do this, to lessen my uncomfortableness. Maybe massaging their forehead would work to reduce the sinus pressure. I never really focused on treating them per behavior. I just looked at them as ill, and treated the whole body. Symptoms started falling away when biomed recovery efforts were started. The symptoms left were looked at more specifically. We use several things for inflammation. Turmeric is a staple. Modifilan, Mellatonin, bee products (propolis, royal jelly, pollen), and there are more. The rest kind of killed pathogens plus were anti-inflammatories, so you have to start off real slow and deal with die-off before the inflammation reduces. Expect to get an increase in inflammation at first. The bee products worked better for hayfever/sinus allergies than anything else we tried. Love and prayers, Heidi N Hi All - I'm wondering if anyone has any OT type strategies that might help me with my dd's constant need for deep pressure? (Yes, I am aware it's probably virus/pain/inflamma tion/bugs/parasites - looking for strategies to help deal with the pressing until I can heal the issues causing the behavour). She wants/needs to press her forehead and nose into my cheek whenever she comes near me. It's getting to the point of getting bruises on my cheeks. I am trying to get her to use my hand for presses... Thanks! Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Sounds interesting Rita. I do have a lightworks however I have not used it in ages... Would you recommend I use that on her neck/head area? Not too confident in my lasering ability. Yes Heidi, I agree - treating biomedically is my first priority (which I am doing). Thanks all for the great hands on suggestions. Kim > > Kim, > Couple of things come to mind. A few years ago in DrK's ASD conference he showed us how to do this deep pressure head compression with our mom hands...if I remember right it was to increase stimulation. I remember this particularly because my dear friend that is an RN & licensed massage therapist went up to volunteer as she wanted it done personally from DrK...she's a hands on kinda gal that wanted to feel the actual pressure herself. She then did it on me later....hummm wonder if we could get that part of the conference to show you. You put your hands fingertips up on each side of the head....palms right around/slightly behind the ears. With controlled pressure you press in & up (the fingertips on both sides of the head move together. Hold for a short time then release...try it on yourself 1st to feel the hang of it. > Have you had them adjusted lately, especially the cranial nerves...Quantum Neurology would be great for this. > If you have a laser, I'd use it on the top of the neck & top of the head. > use to take the stimulator gun that was used in QN & just put it on his cheek...looked like it would hurt but he loved it....I think he had some sinus pain or something.... > Just some thoughts.... > Blessings, > Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Yes, Purchase a large sheet of spandex at the fabric store. I suggest using non pattered, bright color- ours is purple. Be prepared- spandex is not as cheap as you will think it should be:) Have someone who knows what they are doing bolt a heavy duty metal loop (no sharp edges)into the stud in the wall 5' off of the ground. Ours is over our son's bed. Attach a carribener( also avail at home products store) Take the edges of one end of the spandex and knot a solid loop into it. Affix this to the carribener hooking both to the wall bolt. Child can wrap himself up for deep pressure and self select for the degree of pressure. Our son actually puts the purple sheet over people, stuffed animals, his fotball occasionally - haha! One other tip. If you are sitting on enough cash buy 2 sheets of spandex and hide 1 in the closet until the first needs washing. Hope this is helpful! > > Hi All - > > I'm wondering if anyone has any OT type strategies that might help me with my dd's constant need for deep pressure? (Yes, I am aware it's probably virus/pain/inflammation/bugs/parasites - looking for strategies to help deal with the pressing until I can heal the issues causing the behavour). > > She wants/needs to press her forehead and nose into my cheek whenever she comes near me. It's getting to the point of getting bruises on my cheeks. > I am trying to get her to use my hand for presses... > Thanks! > Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 wow, my son who is 12 now, has done this for years, I have never heard of another kid doing this... I have been working with my OT to come up with other ideas... I noticed when I give him those rubber tubes that OT's always recommend to chew on it helped, also squishing him in pillows and burying his head into pillows helps, also massaging his head... I am right there with you with the bruised head, my cheeks, nose and forehead always hurt from it... > > Hi All - > > I'm wondering if anyone has any OT type strategies that might help me with my dd's constant need for deep pressure? (Yes, I am aware it's probably virus/pain/inflammation/bugs/parasites - looking for strategies to help deal with the pressing until I can heal the issues causing the behavour). > > She wants/needs to press her forehead and nose into my cheek whenever she comes near me. It's getting to the point of getting bruises on my cheeks. > I am trying to get her to use my hand for presses... > Thanks! > Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 We, ,too, have had similar issues with our grown son. In fact, at about age six when he began to have pain spells he would press very hard against his upper lip - this led to an idea that maybe he had tic douleureux. Here recently, at age 39, he has begun to slap the side of his own head very hard, and he typed out for his Dad that he has " pain behind his eyes. " uses facilitated communication with his Dad as primary facilitator. If I wear a sleeveless dress, he will invariably come up to my bare upper arm and sniff very hard while burying his nose/face in my flesh. I really don't smell too bad - I hope. This is a sensory issue I know. Proprioception and also sensitivity to some odor -- I believe we all do have an indivdiual chemical smell. Embarrassingly he does this with other ladies too, sniffing arms and pulling at polo shirts to do so. He also sniffs their hands, taking hold of them in just exactly the way a Frenchman might to " kiss the hand " Indeed this is what they think the gesture is, and they are invariably pleased. Cornelia Re: Face pressing > wow, my son who is 12 now, has done this for years, I have never heard of > another kid doing this... I have been working with my OT to come up with > other ideas... I noticed when I give him those rubber tubes that OT's > always recommend to chew on it helped, also squishing him in pillows and > burying his head into pillows helps, also massaging his head... I am > right there with you with the bruised head, my cheeks, nose and forehead > always hurt from it... > > >> >> Hi All - >> >> I'm wondering if anyone has any OT type strategies that might help me >> with my dd's constant need for deep pressure? (Yes, I am aware it's >> probably virus/pain/inflammation/bugs/parasites - looking for strategies >> to help deal with the pressing until I can heal the issues causing the >> behavour). >> >> She wants/needs to press her forehead and nose into my cheek whenever she >> comes near me. It's getting to the point of getting bruises on my >> cheeks. >> I am trying to get her to use my hand for presses... >> Thanks! >> Kim >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Have you narrowed down what is causing the pain behind the eyes? Do you mind my asking what you are giving for the pain?Thank you We, ,too, have had similar issues with our grown son. In fact, at about age six when he began to have pain spells he would press very hard against his upper lip - this led to an idea that maybe he had tic douleureux. Here recently, at age 39, he has begun to slap the side of his own head very hard, and he typed out for his Dad that he has "pain behind his eyes." uses facilitated communication with his Dad as primary facilitator. If I wear a sleeveless dress, he will invariably come up to my bare upper arm and sniff very hard while burying his nose/face in my flesh. I really don't smell too bad - I hope. This is a sensory issue I know. Proprioception and also sensitivity to some odor -- I believe we all do have an indivdiual chemical smell. Embarrassingly he does this with other ladies too, sniffing arms and pulling at polo shirts to do so. He also sniffs their hands, taking hold of them in just exactly the way a Frenchman might to "kiss the hand" Indeed this is what they think the gesture is, and they are invariably pleased. Cornelia Re: Face pressing > wow, my son who is 12 now, has done this for years, I have never heard of > another kid doing this... I have been working with my OT to come up with > other ideas... I noticed when I give him those rubber tubes that OT's > always recommend to chew on it helped, also squishing him in pillows and > burying his head into pillows helps, also massaging his head... I am > right there with you with the bruised head, my cheeks, nose and forehead > always hurt from it... > > >> >> Hi All - >> >> I'm wondering if anyone has any OT type strategies that might help me >> with my dd's constant need for deep pressure? (Yes, I am aware it's >> probably virus/pain/inflammation/bugs/parasites - looking for strategies >> to help deal with the pressing until I can heal the issues causing the >> behavour). >> >> She wants/needs to press her forehead and nose into my cheek whenever she >> comes near me. It's getting to the point of getting bruises on my >> cheeks. >> I am trying to get her to use my hand for presses... >> Thanks! >> Kim >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Reading this again, makes me wonder if there is infection/inflammation going on in the sinus area of these children? When an area hurts sometimes, pressing on the area gives some relief. Anyone ever done a deep nasal culture to see if Stap/ Strep comes up on testing? Allie > > >> > > >> Hi All - > > >> > > >> I'm wondering if anyone has any OT type strategies that might > > help me > > >> with my dd's constant need for deep pressure? (Yes, I am aware it's > > >> probably virus/pain/inflammation/bugs/parasites - looking for > > strategies > > >> to help deal with the pressing until I can heal the issues > > causing the > > >> behavour). > > >> > > >> She wants/needs to press her forehead and nose into my cheek > > whenever she > > >> comes near me. It's getting to the point of getting bruises on my > > >> cheeks. > > >> I am trying to get her to use my hand for presses... > > >> Thanks! > > >> Kim > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I'v read many parents posting (including my son) that when then did an MRI it showed a sinus infection. My son was 2 we never treated because he didn't have the symptoms. But I've seen it enough times that I think there is a significance. > > > >> > > > >> Hi All - > > > >> > > > >> I'm wondering if anyone has any OT type strategies that might > > > help me > > > >> with my dd's constant need for deep pressure? (Yes, I am aware it's > > > >> probably virus/pain/inflammation/bugs/parasites - looking for > > > strategies > > > >> to help deal with the pressing until I can heal the issues > > > causing the > > > >> behavour). > > > >> > > > >> She wants/needs to press her forehead and nose into my cheek > > > whenever she > > > >> comes near me. It's getting to the point of getting bruises on my > > > >> cheeks. > > > >> I am trying to get her to use my hand for presses... > > > >> Thanks! > > > >> Kim > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Kim, I'd personally treat the head & neck area. I also thought of tapping...probably on the sinuses to see if that may help...just some thoughts of some things to try to see if they help. Blessings, Rita > > > > Kim, > > Couple of things come to mind. A few years ago in DrK's ASD conference he showed us how to do this deep pressure head compression with our mom hands...if I remember right it was to increase stimulation. I remember this particularly because my dear friend that is an RN & licensed massage therapist went up to volunteer as she wanted it done personally from DrK...she's a hands on kinda gal that wanted to feel the actual pressure herself. She then did it on me later....hummm wonder if we could get that part of the conference to show you. You put your hands fingertips up on each side of the head....palms right around/slightly behind the ears. With controlled pressure you press in & up (the fingertips on both sides of the head move together. Hold for a short time then release...try it on yourself 1st to feel the hang of it. > > Have you had them adjusted lately, especially the cranial nerves...Quantum Neurology would be great for this. > > If you have a laser, I'd use it on the top of the neck & top of the head. > > use to take the stimulator gun that was used in QN & just put it on his cheek...looked like it would hurt but he loved it....I think he had some sinus pain or something.... > > Just some thoughts.... > > Blessings, > > Rita > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Thanks again to all for replying to my post. Most helpful Kim > > Kim, > I'd personally treat the head & neck area. I also thought of tapping...probably on the sinuses to see if that may help...just some thoughts of some things to try to see if they help. > Blessings, > Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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