Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Krassi I just sent my son's test off, will let you know when I get the results back and what needs to be done as well. Do you do any B-12 & Folicinic acid? I know thats helpful for CF. Allie > > Hi all, > Today I got my son's nagalase test results and I was surprised how high they are - 2.0! Not sure why it is so high since we have been killing Lyme, parasites, strep, clostridia, yeast and strengthening his immune system for the past 3.5 years with all kinds of things – natural, prescription, homeopathics (although the truth indeed is that he has made minimal progress). > On the other hand I am hopeful that by addressing the high nagalase we may see finally some noticeable gains. So now I am full with questions and wondering if I can get your opinion on some of them. I read that the homeopathic version of the GcMAF is not as effective as the real shots. Is this true, has anybody talked already with your doctor about both options? (I have appointment with our doctor in March, but this is way too far for me to wait to get some answers > Do they choose homeopathic when the nagalase test is not as elevated, and when more like in our case they decide with the shots? > When do you get less negative reactions - is it with the homeopathic? What are the negative side effects from the shots? Do you do the shots by yourself or you go to a doctor or nurse to perform them? How long it takes to see positives? Also, I am little nervous from the fact that the GcMAF is blood derived product, does anybody know if the lab in Europe tests it for Lyme and all other bad bugs? Can you share your experience with GcMAF shots so far and write if the shots are homeopathic or with real GcMAF? > Thank you in advance, any input is greatly appreciated. > Krassi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Hi Allie, Yes, we do Mb12 shots every other day and folinic acid in small doses (1.8 mg/day), because I still don't know the results from our Cerebral folate receptor auto antibodies test and if we need to go on higher doses or not. It is so frustrating because I feel like we are doing so many things and tests and the results are so minimal. I really hope by addressing the nagalase we will see finally something. Krassi > > > > Hi all, > > Today I got my son's nagalase test results and I was surprised how high they are - 2.0! Not sure why it is so high since we have been killing Lyme, parasites, strep, clostridia, yeast and strengthening his immune system for the past 3.5 years with all kinds of things – natural, prescription, homeopathics (although the truth indeed is that he has made minimal progress). > > On the other hand I am hopeful that by addressing the high nagalase we may see finally some noticeable gains. So now I am full with questions and wondering if I can get your opinion on some of them. I read that the homeopathic version of the GcMAF is not as effective as the real shots. Is this true, has anybody talked already with your doctor about both options? (I have appointment with our doctor in March, but this is way too far for me to wait to get some answers > > Do they choose homeopathic when the nagalase test is not as elevated, and when more like in our case they decide with the shots? > > When do you get less negative reactions - is it with the homeopathic? What are the negative side effects from the shots? Do you do the shots by yourself or you go to a doctor or nurse to perform them? How long it takes to see positives? Also, I am little nervous from the fact that the GcMAF is blood derived product, does anybody know if the lab in Europe tests it for Lyme and all other bad bugs? Can you share your experience with GcMAF shots so far and write if the shots are homeopathic or with real GcMAF? > > Thank you in advance, any input is greatly appreciated. > > Krassi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 This may just be exactly what he needs, Krassi! I am certainly praying for you guys and hopeful that you found a big piece of your sons puzzle. I wish I could answer some of these questions for you, but I don't know much about the subject either. I know that Dr. Bradstreet is reporting some great things from parents. Wishing you the best! na > > > > > > Hi all, > > > Today I got my son's nagalase test results and I was surprised how high they are - 2.0! Not sure why it is so high since we have been killing Lyme, parasites, strep, clostridia, yeast and strengthening his immune system for the past 3.5 years with all kinds of things – natural, prescription, homeopathics (although the truth indeed is that he has made minimal progress). > > > On the other hand I am hopeful that by addressing the high nagalase we may see finally some noticeable gains. So now I am full with questions and wondering if I can get your opinion on some of them. I read that the homeopathic version of the GcMAF is not as effective as the real shots. Is this true, has anybody talked already with your doctor about both options? (I have appointment with our doctor in March, but this is way too far for me to wait to get some answers > > > Do they choose homeopathic when the nagalase test is not as elevated, and when more like in our case they decide with the shots? > > > When do you get less negative reactions - is it with the homeopathic? What are the negative side effects from the shots? Do you do the shots by yourself or you go to a doctor or nurse to perform them? How long it takes to see positives? Also, I am little nervous from the fact that the GcMAF is blood derived product, does anybody know if the lab in Europe tests it for Lyme and all other bad bugs? Can you share your experience with GcMAF shots so far and write if the shots are homeopathic or with real GcMAF? > > > Thank you in advance, any input is greatly appreciated. > > > Krassi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Wow, that is really high. My wife started the GcMAF injections last week and hasn't had any negative side effects yet. This could be huge for your son and may be a big step forwardTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism From: krassi_G_2000@...Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 02:29:25 +0000Subject: Nagalase test results Hi all, Today I got my son's nagalase test results and I was surprised how high they are - 2.0! Not sure why it is so high since we have been killing Lyme, parasites, strep, clostridia, yeast and strengthening his immune system for the past 3.5 years with all kinds of things – natural, prescription, homeopathics (although the truth indeed is that he has made minimal progress). On the other hand I am hopeful that by addressing the high nagalase we may see finally some noticeable gains. So now I am full with questions and wondering if I can get your opinion on some of them. I read that the homeopathic version of the GcMAF is not as effective as the real shots. Is this true, has anybody talked already with your doctor about both options? (I have appointment with our doctor in March, but this is way too far for me to wait to get some answers :) Do they choose homeopathic when the nagalase test is not as elevated, and when more like in our case they decide with the shots? When do you get less negative reactions - is it with the homeopathic? What are the negative side effects from the shots? Do you do the shots by yourself or you go to a doctor or nurse to perform them? How long it takes to see positives? Also, I am little nervous from the fact that the GcMAF is blood derived product, does anybody know if the lab in Europe tests it for Lyme and all other bad bugs? Can you share your experience with GcMAF shots so far and write if the shots are homeopathic or with real GcMAF? Thank you in advance, any input is greatly appreciated. Krassi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 We had 4 injections, one at Dr. b's office and 3 at home. I held while my husband gave them in the back of the arm. They are really tiny needles, probably b-12 sized. I saw a little bit of a poor reaction with the last shot, a little irritability, etc. it was our highest dose at 20ccs. I have a follow-up call in 2 weeks. As a side note we never see positives from anything, so I don't want to discourage people from this particular therapy. It has been this way for us for 9 years. We are in Austin this week to see Soma and he does seem to use his letter board better, however.Keena Wow, that is really high. My wife started the GcMAF injections last week and hasn't had any negative side effects yet. This could be huge for your son and may be a big step forwardTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism From: krassi_G_2000@...Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 02:29:25 +0000Subject: Nagalase test results Hi all, Today I got my son's nagalase test results and I was surprised how high they are - 2.0! Not sure why it is so high since we have been killing Lyme, parasites, strep, clostridia, yeast and strengthening his immune system for the past 3.5 years with all kinds of things – natural, prescription, homeopathics (although the truth indeed is that he has made minimal progress). On the other hand I am hopeful that by addressing the high nagalase we may see finally some noticeable gains. So now I am full with questions and wondering if I can get your opinion on some of them. I read that the homeopathic version of the GcMAF is not as effective as the real shots. Is this true, has anybody talked already with your doctor about both options? (I have appointment with our doctor in March, but this is way too far for me to wait to get some answers Do they choose homeopathic when the nagalase test is not as elevated, and when more like in our case they decide with the shots? When do you get less negative reactions - is it with the homeopathic? What are the negative side effects from the shots? Do you do the shots by yourself or you go to a doctor or nurse to perform them? How long it takes to see positives? Also, I am little nervous from the fact that the GcMAF is blood derived product, does anybody know if the lab in Europe tests it for Lyme and all other bad bugs? Can you share your experience with GcMAF shots so far and write if the shots are homeopathic or with real GcMAF? Thank you in advance, any input is greatly appreciated. Krassi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Keena, Did Dr. B thought you how to give the injections, are they supposed to be at 45 degree as the B12 shots? So they are the homeopathic version, right? How high was his nagalase test showing prior to the injections? Thanks, Krassi > > > Wow, that is really high. My wife started the GcMAF injections last week and hasn't had any negative side effects yet. This could be huge for your son and may be a big step forward > > > > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > From: krassi_G_2000@... > > Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 02:29:25 +0000 > > Subject: Nagalase test results > > > > > > Hi all, > > Today I got my son's nagalase test results and I was surprised how high they are - 2.0! Not sure why it is so high since we have been killing Lyme, parasites, strep, clostridia, yeast and strengthening his immune system for the past 3.5 years with all kinds of things †" natural, prescription, homeopathics (although the truth indeed is that he has made minimal progress). > > On the other hand I am hopeful that by addressing the high nagalase we may see finally some noticeable gains. So now I am full with questions and wondering if I can get your opinion on some of them. I read that the homeopathic version of the GcMAF is not as effective as the real shots. Is this true, has anybody talked already with your doctor about both options? (I have appointment with our doctor in March, but this is way too far for me to wait to get some answers > > Do they choose homeopathic when the nagalase test is not as elevated, and when more like in our case they decide with the shots? > > When do you get less negative reactions - is it with the homeopathic? What are the negative side effects from the shots? Do you do the shots by yourself or you go to a doctor or nurse to perform them? How long it takes to see positives? Also, I am little nervous from the fact that the GcMAF is blood derived product, does anybody know if the lab in Europe tests it for Lyme and all other bad bugs? Can you share your experience with GcMAF shots so far and write if the shots are homeopathic or with real GcMAF? > > Thank you in advance, any input is greatly appreciated. > > Krassi > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Could you share if your wife is using the homeopathic version of the injections or the ones from Europe? Did you have to order them by yourself or the doctor who you are consulting with had them premade? Thanks, Krassi > > Wow, that is really high. My wife started the GcMAF injections last week and hasn't had any negative side effects yet. This could be huge for your son and may be a big step forward > > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > From: krassi_G_2000@... > Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 02:29:25 +0000 > Subject: Nagalase test results > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > Today I got my son's nagalase test results and I was surprised how high they are - 2.0! Not sure why it is so high since we have been killing Lyme, parasites, strep, clostridia, yeast and strengthening his immune system for the past 3.5 years with all kinds of things – natural, prescription, homeopathics (although the truth indeed is that he has made minimal progress). > > On the other hand I am hopeful that by addressing the high nagalase we may see finally some noticeable gains. So now I am full with questions and wondering if I can get your opinion on some of them. I read that the homeopathic version of the GcMAF is not as effective as the real shots. Is this true, has anybody talked already with your doctor about both options? (I have appointment with our doctor in March, but this is way too far for me to wait to get some answers > > Do they choose homeopathic when the nagalase test is not as elevated, and when more like in our case they decide with the shots? > > When do you get less negative reactions - is it with the homeopathic? What are the negative side effects from the shots? Do you do the shots by yourself or you go to a doctor or nurse to perform them? How long it takes to see positives? Also, I am little nervous from the fact that the GcMAF is blood derived product, does anybody know if the lab in Europe tests it for Lyme and all other bad bugs? Can you share your experience with GcMAF shots so far and write if the shots are homeopathic or with real GcMAF? > > Thank you in advance, any input is greatly appreciated. > > Krassi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Pinch the back of the arm and straight in was how the nurse did it at Dr. Bs office. They are not homeopathic is my understanding. was a 1.2 when we started. Keena, Did Dr. B thought you how to give the injections, are they supposed to be at 45 degree as the B12 shots? So they are the homeopathic version, right? How high was his nagalase test showing prior to the injections? Thanks, Krassi > > > Wow, that is really high. My wife started the GcMAF injections last week and hasn't had any negative side effects yet. This could be huge for your son and may be a big step forward > > > > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > From: krassi_G_2000@... > > Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 02:29:25 +0000 > > Subject: Nagalase test results > > > > > > Hi all, > > Today I got my son's nagalase test results and I was surprised how high they are - 2.0! Not sure why it is so high since we have been killing Lyme, parasites, strep, clostridia, yeast and strengthening his immune system for the past 3.5 years with all kinds of things â€" natural, prescription, homeopathics (although the truth indeed is that he has made minimal progress). > > On the other hand I am hopeful that by addressing the high nagalase we may see finally some noticeable gains. So now I am full with questions and wondering if I can get your opinion on some of them. I read that the homeopathic version of the GcMAF is not as effective as the real shots. Is this true, has anybody talked already with your doctor about both options? (I have appointment with our doctor in March, but this is way too far for me to wait to get some answers > > Do they choose homeopathic when the nagalase test is not as elevated, and when more like in our case they decide with the shots? > > When do you get less negative reactions - is it with the homeopathic? What are the negative side effects from the shots? Do you do the shots by yourself or you go to a doctor or nurse to perform them? How long it takes to see positives? Also, I am little nervous from the fact that the GcMAF is blood derived product, does anybody know if the lab in Europe tests it for Lyme and all other bad bugs? Can you share your experience with GcMAF shots so far and write if the shots are homeopathic or with real GcMAF? > > Thank you in advance, any input is greatly appreciated. > > Krassi > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Let me just caution you, I was instructed to give my son 0.1ml, then 0.15, then 0.25. My son had a very strong reaction, to 0.1, and a pretty severe reaction to 0.15. We then talked to Dr. Bradstreet and he told us to take 2 weeks off and start back at 0.05ml. He said we could have seriously hurt our son or even killed him had we continued with the other Dr.'s protocal. It is nothing to mess with. Please be cautious and use under an experienced Dr's care. To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 2:23 PMSubject: Re: Nagalase test results Keena,Did Dr. B thought you how to give the injections, are they supposed to be at 45 degree as the B12 shots? So they are the homeopathic version, right? How high was his nagalase test showing prior to the injections?Thanks,Krassi> > > Wow, that is really high. My wife started the GcMAF injections last week and hasn't had any negative side effects yet. This could be huge for your son and may be a big step forward> > > > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > > Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 02:29:25 +0000> > Subject: Nagalase test results> > > > > > Hi all,> > Today I got my son's nagalase test results and I was surprised how high they are - 2.0! Not sure why it is so high since we have been killing Lyme, parasites, strep, clostridia, yeast and strengthening his immune system for the past 3.5 years with all kinds of things â€" natural, prescription, homeopathics (although the truth indeed is that he has made minimal progress).> > On the other hand I am hopeful that by addressing the high nagalase we may see finally some noticeable gains. So now I am full with questions and wondering if I can get your opinion on some of them. I read that the homeopathic version of the GcMAF is not as effective as the real shots. Is this true, has anybody talked already with your doctor about both options? (I have appointment with our doctor in March, but this is way too far for me to wait to get some answers > > Do they choose homeopathic when the nagalase test is not as elevated, and when more like in our case they decide with the shots?> > When do you get less negative reactions - is it with the homeopathic? What are the negative side effects from the shots? Do you do the shots by yourself or you go to a doctor or nurse to perform them? How long it takes to see positives? Also, I am little nervous from the fact that the GcMAF is blood derived product, does anybody know if the lab in Europe tests it for Lyme and all other bad bugs? Can you share your experience with GcMAF shots so far and write if the shots are homeopathic or with real GcMAF?> > Thank you in advance, any input is greatly appreciated.> > Krassi> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Where do you get the test? Does it have to be done through a doctor or is it one of the test kits that can be ordered on line and sent out Macy Hi all,Today I got my son's nagalase test results and I was surprised how high they are - 2.0! Not sure why it is so high since we have been killing Lyme, parasites, strep, clostridia, yeast and strengthening his immune system for the past 3.5 years with all kinds of things – natural, prescription, homeopathics (although the truth indeed is that he has made minimal progress).On the other hand I am hopeful that by addressing the high nagalase we may see finally some noticeable gains. So now I am full with questions and wondering if I can get your opinion on some of them. I read that the homeopathic version of the GcMAF is not as effective as the real shots. Is this true, has anybody talked already with your doctor about both options? (I have appointment with our doctor in March, but this is way too far for me to wait to get some answers :)Do they choose homeopathic when the nagalase test is not as elevated, and when more like in our case they decide with the shots?When do you get less negative reactions - is it with the homeopathic? What are the negative side effects from the shots? Do you do the shots by yourself or you go to a doctor or nurse to perform them? How long it takes to see positives? Also, I am little nervous from the fact that the GcMAF is blood derived product, does anybody know if the lab in Europe tests it for Lyme and all other bad bugs? Can you share your experience with GcMAF shots so far and write if the shots are homeopathic or with real GcMAF?Thank you in advance, any input is greatly appreciated.Krassi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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