Guest guest Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 After years of antibiotics, we got major break throughs using anti-parasitic medications. Several eliminated out of seat and hyper behaviors and are also known to cross the BBB. Alinia, albenza, ivermectin were all great for my son. Some LLMD will acknowledge that lyme responds to ivermectin. I cannot respond to the effectiveness of samento and banderol. Caryn > > > > Hello Group, > > My son has hit a wall. He has been on antibiotics (ammox and azith) for two years (With some breaks in the middle). He has had a really nice two years of improvement, but still is displaying some major " autisitic " symptoms. At school they say he is starting to yell a lot and it is almost impossible to get him to sit still and concentrate on anything. That part is a regression, he has always been extremely hyper, but you could always get him to sit still for a little while and work. > > I am thinking about adding Samento and Banderol, I have read good things about it and there was a study published a few years back that showed that they cross the blood brain barrier (In Utero) and eliminated Bb better than some antibiotics. > > Has anyone gave these supplements to their children? > > Part of me thinks: Stop you are already giving him too much! > > but the other part of me thinks: The antibiotics are not doing enough! ammoxocillin and azithromycin don't cross the blood brain barrier and the fact he has neurological issues clearly shows Bb has affected his brain. > > Let me know what you think. > > Have a great weekend, > > Mason > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 We use same to and a few other antimicrobials from Nutramedix, along with antibiotics. I definitely think they are helping. RuthSent from my iPhone Hello Group, My son has hit a wall. He has been on antibiotics (ammox and azith) for two years (With some breaks in the middle). He has had a really nice two years of improvement, but still is displaying some major "autisitic" symptoms. At school they say he is starting to yell a lot and it is almost impossible to get him to sit still and concentrate on anything. That part is a regression, he has always been extremely hyper, but you could always get him to sit still for a little while and work. I am thinking about adding Samento and Banderol, I have read good things about it and there was a study published a few years back that showed that they cross the blood brain barrier (In Utero) and eliminated Bb better than some antibiotics. Has anyone gave these supplements to their children? Part of me thinks: Stop you are already giving him too much! but the other part of me thinks: The antibiotics are not doing enough! ammoxocillin and azithromycin don't cross the blood brain barrier and the fact he has neurological issues clearly shows Bb has affected his brain. Let me know what you think. Have a great weekend, Mason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Mason, have you checked to see if it isn't clostridia on the rise or perhaps yeast/fungus? I see these behaviors rise in my son when I know his yeast and viruses are up. Maybe time to flush his system with antifungals and higher loads of probiotics? Just a thought.... -e > > > Hello Group, > > My son has hit a wall. He has been on antibiotics (ammox and azith) for two years (With some breaks in the middle). He has had a really nice two years of improvement, but still is displaying some major " autisitic " symptoms. At school they say he is starting to yell a lot and it is almost impossible to get him to sit still and concentrate on anything. That part is a regression, he has always been extremely hyper, but you could always get him to sit still for a little while and work. > > I am thinking about adding Samento and Banderol, I have read good things about it and there was a study published a few years back that showed that they cross the blood brain barrier (In Utero) and eliminated Bb better than some antibiotics. > > Has anyone gave these supplements to their children? > > Part of me thinks: Stop you are already giving him too much! > > but the other part of me thinks: The antibiotics are not doing enough! ammoxocillin and azithromycin don't cross the blood brain barrier and the fact he has neurological issues clearly shows Bb has affected his brain. > > Let me know what you think. > > Have a great weekend, > > Mason > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Diflucan and Nystatin. My son responds nicely to Nystatin and reacts more to Diflucan which I feel is more potent. The yeast is drawn to the surface of the skin more with Diflucan in my son and it makes him itch and irritable but after about 3-4 weeks he is much more calm. We don't use ANY antibiotics without some sort of 'clean up crew' like either of these antifungals. There are more herbal antifungals that adults use like Oil of Oregano and Colloidal silver, etc. > > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > > > My son has hit a wall. He has been on antibiotics (ammox and azith) for two years (With some breaks in the middle). He has had a really nice two years of improvement, but still is displaying some major " autisitic " symptoms. At school they say he is starting to yell a lot and it is almost impossible to get him to sit still and concentrate on anything. That part is a regression, he has always been extremely hyper, but you could always get him to sit still for a little while and work. > > > > > > I am thinking about adding Samento and Banderol, I have read good things about it and there was a study published a few years back that showed that they cross the blood brain barrier (In Utero) and eliminated Bb better than some antibiotics. > > > > > > Has anyone gave these supplements to their children? > > > > > > Part of me thinks: Stop you are already giving him too much! > > > > > > but the other part of me thinks: The antibiotics are not doing enough! ammoxocillin and azithromycin don't cross the blood brain barrier and the fact he has neurological issues clearly shows Bb has affected his brain. > > > > > > Let me know what you think. > > > > > > Have a great weekend, > > > > > > Mason > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 I would treat systemically. It is likely whether the infection is bacterial or parasitic, that topical treatment can lead to driving the parasites internally to find a new home in some unlucky organ. Dr Hulda observed that skin infections orften lead to allergies or asmtha when treated topically. Caryn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > > > > > > > My son has hit a wall. He has been on antibiotics (ammox and azith) for > two years (With some breaks in the middle). He has had a really nice two > years of improvement, but still is displaying some major " autisitic " > symptoms. At school they say he is starting to yell a lot and it is almost > impossible to get him to sit still and concentrate on anything. That part is > a regression, he has always been extremely hyper, but you could always get > him to sit still for a little while and work. > > > > > > > > > > I am thinking about adding Samento and Banderol, I have read good things > about it and there was a study published a few years back that showed that > they cross the blood brain barrier (In Utero) and eliminated Bb better than > some antibiotics. > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone gave these supplements to their children? > > > > > > > > > > Part of me thinks: Stop you are already giving him too much! > > > > > > > > > > but the other part of me thinks: The antibiotics are not doing enough! > ammoxocillin and azithromycin don't cross the blood brain barrier and the > fact he has neurological issues clearly shows Bb has affected his brain. > > > > > > > > > > Let me know what you think. > > > > > > > > > > Have a great weekend, > > > > > > > > > > Mason > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 if on long term antibioitcs I would also conciter yeast or clostridia From: Mason Kuhn Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 11:48 AM To: borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism Subject: samento and banderol Hello Group, My son has hit a wall. He has been on antibiotics (ammox and azith) for two years (With some breaks in the middle). He has had a really nice two years of improvement, but still is displaying some major "autisitic" symptoms. At school they say he is starting to yell a lot and it is almost impossible to get him to sit still and concentrate on anything. That part is a regression, he has always been extremely hyper, but you could always get him to sit still for a little while and work. I am thinking about adding Samento and Banderol, I have read good things about it and there was a study published a few years back that showed that they cross the blood brain barrier (In Utero) and eliminated Bb better than some antibiotics. Has anyone gave these supplements to their children? Part of me thinks: Stop you are already giving him too much! but the other part of me thinks: The antibiotics are not doing enough! ammoxocillin and azithromycin don't cross the blood brain barrier and the fact he has neurological issues clearly shows Bb has affected his brain. Let me know what you think. Have a great weekend, Mason No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4970 - Release Date: 04/30/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Mason,Yes, I have given these to my son. It is really important that you follow a doctor's advise on this though as it should be given in accordance with your child's weight and what microbes, etc. are going on in the body. Samento alsocomes in 2 forms capsule and liquid. Depending on what is going on in the body will depend on what formshould be given. You really need a doctor knowledgeable in the use of an antimicrobial protocol and the improvements will be dramatic.All the best to youHave a good weekend.Dianna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 After years of treating lume and friends with antibiotics, we added in antiparasitics and got major gains. Consider the possibility that he is full of worms. > > if on long term antibioitcs I would also conciter yeast or clostridia > > > > From: Mason Kuhn > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 11:48 AM > To: borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism > Subject: samento and banderol > > > > > > Hello Group, > > My son has hit a wall. He has been on antibiotics (ammox and azith) for two years (With some breaks in the middle). He has had a really nice two years of improvement, but still is displaying some major " autisitic " symptoms. At school they say he is starting to yell a lot and it is almost impossible to get him to sit still and concentrate on anything. That part is a regression, he has always been extremely hyper, but you could always get him to sit still for a little while and work. > > I am thinking about adding Samento and Banderol, I have read good things about it and there was a study published a few years back that showed that they cross the blood brain barrier (In Utero) and eliminated Bb better than some antibiotics. > > Has anyone gave these supplements to their children? > > Part of me thinks: Stop you are already giving him too much! > > but the other part of me thinks: The antibiotics are not doing enough! ammoxocillin and azithromycin don't cross the blood brain barrier and the fact he has neurological issues clearly shows Bb has affected his brain. > > Let me know what you think. > > Have a great weekend, > > Mason > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4970 - Release Date: 04/30/12 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 We have used alinia, flagyl, tindamax, albenza, ivermectin, pyrantel pamoate. We have used herbs too. I think deworming needs to be a near constant long term thing bacause a mature worm infection is so hard to fix. > > > > if on long term antibioitcs I would also conciter yeast or clostridia > > > > > > > > From: Mason Kuhn > > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 11:48 AM > > To: borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism > > Subject: samento and banderol > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > My son has hit a wall. He has been on antibiotics (ammox and azith) for two years (With some breaks in the middle). He has had a really nice two years of improvement, but still is displaying some major " autisitic " symptoms. At school they say he is starting to yell a lot and it is almost impossible to get him to sit still and concentrate on anything. That part is a regression, he has always been extremely hyper, but you could always get him to sit still for a little while and work. > > > > I am thinking about adding Samento and Banderol, I have read good things about it and there was a study published a few years back that showed that they cross the blood brain barrier (In Utero) and eliminated Bb better than some antibiotics. > > > > Has anyone gave these supplements to their children? > > > > Part of me thinks: Stop you are already giving him too much! > > > > but the other part of me thinks: The antibiotics are not doing enough! ammoxocillin and azithromycin don't cross the blood brain barrier and the fact he has neurological issues clearly shows Bb has affected his brain. > > > > Let me know what you think. > > > > Have a great weekend, > > > > Mason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4970 - Release Date: 04/30/12 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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