Guest guest Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Oh! You probably know a lot more about this than I do then! I truly hope you find some answers. Parasites can sometimes be a big problem. My kids both made big gains from Vermox. Maybe that's something to look at??? > > > > Has anyone had any luck with this or any other antivirals? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chris > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I should have mentioned the maker of vermox stopped productions in Dec 2011. I just found out a few days ago What about biofilm? Does that seem to be a possibility? I have been having some success using virastop/ lactoferrin/xylitol in breaking up biofilm. My daughter wasn't sick for the first 18 months of her life except for fevers when she was first born. After one month on colostrum she had her first cold. IMO it wasn't normal for her to not have any colds or flu for her first 18 months. So for us, giving her additional immunoglobulins helped her fight an actual cold virus. Have you tried immusist? > > > > > > Has anyone had any luck with this or any other antivirals? > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Chris > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 My son has Lyme and co-infections,virus's,pandas,valtrex has been the only treatment that has done anything for my son.He became a new little man.Its not his complete answer but has been huge.,Tammy F.: Has anyone had any luck with this or any other antivirals? Thanks, Chris Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 i just wanted to mention that i read up on a red algae as being a good antiviral...thought i would mention it for any people doin strict naturals....definitly something i am wanting to try....it not only affects the viruses but also balances the immune system channa > > > > > > Has anyone had any luck with this or any other antivirals? > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Chris > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 DrA's Powerpoint slide on Antivirals: " Clinical signs of viruses • Hot and soft tissue in the forehead • Tinnitus and noise sensitivity • Fatigue • Elevated WBC's when symptoms get worse • Enlarged lymph nodes • Cold sores or canker sores Treating Viruses • Vitamin A (some are using up to 400,000IU daily for 2 days every 6 months)- Dr. J. McCandless • Monolaurin or Lauricidin (especially if ASD symptoms become worse after a cold or flu) • Olive leaf (I prefer a tincture mixed with Gingko) • LDM-100 (rash often occurs around day 7-9) • Rizol Zeta (new research is very exciting) • Ambrotose- up to about 3 scoops daily Treating Viruses • Valtrex (my last resort) • Researched Nutritionals Transfer Factor LymPlus, Multi- Immune or Transfer Factor RMM • Echinacea short term • BioPure Stephania • NF Thymactiv LDM-100 • LDM-100 (Lomatium dissectum) by Barlow Herbalswww. barlowherbal.com • Current buzz is that is can cause a healing detox reaction to measles • Effects: - anti-viral - anti-fungal - anti-bacterial • Organic herb used by Native Americans for 100+ years to treat: - cold/flu/TB - topically to all wounds - rhematic pains - all respiratory tract infections LDM-100 • Side Effects: - most common is a rash day 7-9 (isolates don't cause this, but likely are not as effective) - 1-2% of healthy population, up to 90% ASD - rash looks just like measles (but no fever and kids seem pretty happy) - it is not thought to be an allergy, since the rash only occurs once and there is no airway difficulty • Positive effects: - you don't build immunity to it and can take for months - energetically, kids are clearing viruses - huge leaps in verbal skills - general immune support LDM-100 • Doses: - Start slow and build up - Kids: 3-4 drops 4-6 times daily (max I have seen is 1 tsp 3 times daily) • Cautions: - Slow down or even pause if rash occurs - Timing with school, since the rash looks scary and contagious - I don't find this to be a 1st line anti-viral (do vit A, monolaurin, EFA's or olive leaf 1st) - Start to get metals under control 1st - The rash is NOT and indicator of effectiveness " For Noise or light sensitivities (from DrA's Powerpoint): " Clinical Signs of Metal Toxicity • Brown flecks in the eye • Easily startled or anxious • Teeth grinding • Ridges or lines on the fingernails • Chemical sensitivity • Never ending yeast issues • Regression with vaccines • Noise and light sensitivity • Labs are valuable here!!! Favorites for Heavy Metal Detox Clear the excretory organs first, before chelating the brain • Remember: Lyme infections deplete minerals (esp. Mg) and treating infections helps to restore mineral balance. Also, detox of metals helps to fight off all infections. • DMPS- detoxes the kidneys, more specific for mercury and might remove mold or Lyme mycotoxins • DMSA- detoxes the liver and suppositories are tolerated better (less yeast flare) • EDTA- Suppositories in rotation has worked well, more specific for lead (Detoxamin) • Transdermals can be effective to bypass the gut • Dr. Neubranders mB12 protocol (www.drneubrander.com) options are also nasal spray or sublinguals like Beyond B12 • BioPure Chlorella pyrenoidosa or CGF Chlorella (the CGF chlorella is often tolerated better when you first start) • Modifilan or BioPure Ecklonia Cava - (brown algae that binds metals, improve circulation, boosts stem cell production and helps to balance hormones)- Start with 2 daily and work up to 6 Favorites for Heavy Metal Detox • BioPure CGF liquid- a good mobilizer and early intervention • BioPure Cilantro tincture or Nutramedix Parsley Detox (orally up to 10 drops in hot water or topically along the lymph and kidneys) • Multi-minerals (especially on the non-chelating days…liquid forms seem easiest to absorb and tolerate) • Ion Cleanse or Toxaway foot bath- turns on the kidney detox and pulls from the lymph • Phospholipid Exchange (small daily doses like 0.5-1 tsp daily in kids)- contains alpha lipoic, magnesium, EDTA and phospholipids • BioPure Matrix Metals- a good mobilizer • Greens and vit C help to flush the body and protect you " Just in case you want the fungal info (from the powerpoint): " Clinical signs of yeast/fungus • Gas and bloating • Lower abdomen is resistant to weight loss • Kids- high pitched squealing, silly , flushed cheeks and stimming • White coating on the tongue • Brain fog and fatigue • Vaginal or anal irritation/itching/redness • Headaches • Weakness/ fatigue • Sugar cravings • Stinky BM's • Light sensitivity • Rashes • Memory loss or concentration difficulties • Joint pain and morning stiffness • Shortness of breath • Sinus congestion • Numbness and tingling • Skin sensitivity • Muscle aches and pains Treating Fungal Issues • Diflucan (Fluconazole) for 1-3 months continuous (this also helps to address the Lyme issue)- it is also inexpensive now • Rizol Gamma- oral, topical or rectal • Amphotericin B (250mg BID oral dosing for 6 weeks) • Brainchild Nutritionals yeast rotation • Probiotics (like Klaire Therbiotic Complete, VSL#3, Custom Probiotics or BioImmersion Beta Glucan probiotic to stimulate gut immunity) Treating Fungal Issues • Saccharomyces (Florastor)- DAN! protocols now say to use up to 9 daily!!! • Grapefruit Seed Extract- (hint: it hides best in grapefruit juice) • Candicid Forte (herbal blend without garlic) • Nystatin for 1-3 months or longer (wimpy) • Ketoconazole or Sporanox in more severe cases • For external yeast-related irritation, keep area clean and dry, apply clay-based powder like Magick Baby and clean area with diluted vinegar wash (www.magickbotanicals.com) " & since parasites were mentioned (from powerpoint in our groups Files): " Clinical signs of parasites • Rashes on the chest or neck • Discoloration around the mouth • Males often have risky behaviors • Aggravations around the full moon (bloating, irritation, etc) • Pimples on the head within the hair (newer stool test from Metametrix uses a DNA probe for better sensitivity) My favorites for treating parasites (the most difficult to lab test, but the first thing to treat) • BioPure organic freeze dried garlic • Rizol oils • Artemesia pulsed in high doses 3 days on every 2-3 weeks • Vermox/Mebendazole (100mg BID * 3days, then repeat after 3 weeks) • Biltricide (600mg TID for one day then repeat in 2-3 weeks) • Alinia (prescription dose varies) • YES Herbal liquid • It seems to be very effective to follow prescription parasite medications with homeopathic support Might as well give you the " Pysical Exam " slide too: " Physical Exam • Feel for swollen lymph nodes • Look for allergic shiners (thyroid, food allergies) • Look for discoloration around the mouth (often a sign of parasites) • Feel skin texture, especially on the back of the arms (vit A, EFA's) • Look where your child carries his/her weight • Pupil dilation or brown spots in the iris • Rashes or streaks • Sock lines • Skin color (gray, yellow) • Growth curve patterns Next I'm going to post the slides about " open pathways " to answer ? I received off-list....so stay tuned for some of the rest of the presentation. btw....in regards to " fearing it won't be enough " comment...there are some very good naturals that are just as strong if not stronger than the rx's...I've seen many times the right naturals take down pathagens that rx's weren't touching.... So do not fear, it's a matter of finding the right balance for your individual needs. This group & MB12Valtrex are my personal 2 favs...this group is my #1 fav ) Allergies & Immune system overhaul....I'd look @ Immusist.... Blessings, Rita > > > > > > > > Has anyone had any luck with this or any other antivirals? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 great list thank you again rita for sharing such great info..you the best:) > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone had any luck with this or any other antivirals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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