Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 There are many parts to the immune system. Some parts cause inflammation which signals and attracts white blood cells to the area. The word is that short-term inflammation is helpful, but long-term is harmful. What is being talked about pertaining to auto-immune disorders is immune system off-balance. The immune system often changes to either attack pathogens in the cells or outside the cells or some other issue. But, it can not handle all the issues at the same time, effectively. Plus, with biofilm, the talk is that the body detects the foreign invader, and sets off the inflammation signals, but due to the biofilm, it can not actually reach the pathogen to kill it. With Lyme, certain parts of the immune system are said to get burnt out, in that the body starts making less of natural killer types of white blood cells and t-cells. Allergies are often reported as being from too much of some parts of the immune system, and not enough of others. Reportedly, vaccines, medicines, infections, toxins, electrosmog, etc. affect immune system balance. So, it's a complex situation. Usually, what I see are people reporting die-off and improvements from taking things that increase macrophages, but if certain components of the immune system are enhanced, such as that trigger inflammation, reports say that it can cause an increase of problems in those with chronic conditions. For my family, increasing natural killer cells, machrophages, and related white blood cells has helped a lot. I have yet to take anything that is touted to increase immune function that has made things worse. But, initially, there was die-off with many things. I think our immune systems are kind of stuck in a suppressed state, causing chronic symptoms. I am guessing most things don't trigger the inflammation components of the immune system, at least not for long if they do initially. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > > > Here is my question about GcMAF, some think that Lyme disease can cause a > > > > pathogen induced autoimmune reaction (the Bb bacteria bores into a organ > > > > like the brain and our immune system tries to attack the bacteria, but > > > > mistakenly attacks the organ). Autoimmune diseases are caused by an > > > > overactive immune system, so if Lyme is causing our immune system to attack > > > > itself wouldn't producing more Macrophages make it worse? > > > > > > > > Or maybe the theory of a pathogen induced autoimmunity is incorrect, maybe > > > > it's the persistent infection that is causing the dysregulation and high > > > > levels of Nagalase is causing the immune system to not get to those > > > > infections. > > > > > > > > What do you guys think? > > > > > > > > Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Isa, Dr. K's office sent me the test kit and on the Requisition Form was the name of their clinic, so I think you need to have doctor's order to do the test, but I might be wrong. I haven't requested to do the test for myself, only for my son, so the test kit consisted only 1 vial for the blood (although I highly suspect I might have the same issues as my son, but the treatment is so expensive that for now I completely focused only on him). I have read on different boards that it takes up to 4-6 weeks to get the results, so we will see when I get my son's results. I will keep you updated, Krassi > > > > The nagalase test cost $65 + the overnight shipping expenses and is done with Vitamin Diagnostics in NJ. This is how far we are, not sure how much we will need to pay after that for the injections if we start the treatment plan, but from what I have read - most people pay between $600 - $1000 per month for the injections, which are once per week in the arm. > > I don't know if we will have to order the injections from Europe or hopefully Dr. K's office will have them pre-measured for us. I still don't know if the amount of the GcMAF in the injections is based on weight of the patient or how much off is his nagalase result, does anybody know? > > Krassi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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