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Jan,

I can't take the Savella because it isn't compatible with my blood thinner.

That's not a good thing. Lyrica was " wonderful " but one of the side effects was

total loss of bladder control. But for that, I'd be on it. Btw, I'm half Dutch.

: )

>All i can say is try it , then decide to go on.

I'm on Oxcarbazepine right now (don't know the difference between your

 Carbamazepine) and it helps me to function. But it's not giving me much pain

relief. That's  what I want to. 

>I am now on 3 times a day Carbamazepine 200, lyrica 75 and tramadol 50 mg.All

low dose now. And not sleepy anymore only difficulties to stand up in the

morning but i changed this dose three day's ago and feel better every hour and

less pain in my legs. And thats what i want. 

I think we all want that. : )

>Lower the pain and by happy again.

,

I don't have fibro. That was already ruled out. It's definitely TC. I had it

back in 1994 and had surgery for it, which put me in a wheelchair. The Dr. who

did the surgery never told me that it could come back, which kind of ticks me

off. It's better to know than to be blindsided.

>I don't remember if you said you have some sort of " sensitization " ... they

also call it fibromyalgia. ..

I'm trying to get my Dr. to increase the Oxcarbazepine just to see if that makes

a difference. I know several of you are on multiple meds but he's very

conservative and (at this point) won't even discuss it. *sigh*

>If senstitzation is the case then medications have to be on the high dose side

to make an impact, and constantly being in pain does not regulate your system

into " normal " mode.

>The suspicion  is (in my case) that I was in severe pain for so long that my

brain is constantly  sending " flight " signals now. Meaning now I experience all

pain differently from a " normal " person. Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (most

severe pain ever) is caused by sensitization which is gone even further. They

are trying out a Ketamine coma for 10 days, and then infusions to " reset " the

brain for CRPS. 

I'll do that.

>Try looking up central sensitization syndrome... it requires higher doses of

medications, and a combination treatment plan. I guess my point is that if you

are not having your pain controlled this is not getting a chance to get better.

I don't know if you have other options as far as physicians but you need someone

who understands this syndrome/concept treatment.

S'ok. : )

>Sorry.. this got rather long.

My Dr. was very worried about my mood in regards to side effects (thoughts of

suicide, etc.) but after a surgery in my early 20's (for a year I was in SO much

pain that I wanted to die), I know what that feels like and I don't feel that

way now.

>I can tell you one thing, in February I did not want to wake up anymore. I was

constantly in severe pain, I felt like I was 90. My WHOLE body had some kind of

sensitization pain- joints, eyes, ears, back.. all over muscle pain. At this

point that is mostly controlled and the hope is that if I stick to increasing my

workout schedule by 10% weekly (starting slow) and sleeping better (insomnia and

narcolepsy!) the pain will start even getting better, and I may go into a

remission period. But the credit for my pain decrease goes to my physicians who

started a combination treatment and change my narcotic med when needed

(increase). 

No problem! I KNOW I need more. I just wish my Dr. was more open-minded to

multiple meds because, honestly, that's what I feel I need.

>Once again, sorry for the crazy rant here, I just want to make sure you

understand that you may need more to start getting better.

Thanks!

>Take care, and feel free to comment! :)

Jodi

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Jodi, The carbamazepine is only to reduce the shocks that you get when

nerves give bad signals. And it seems it works fine with by me in

combination with lyrica but it did his job too with neurotin I know if

people do have elliptical problems ore dizziness walking upstairs the

reaction on that is much stronger.

Therefor you need to dose exactly the same everyday.

Oxcarbazepine

Incentives in the brains can cause seizures. Oxcarbazepine affects these

incentives and thus helps certain epileptic seizures.

It is used when there is a risk on to much sideeffects. But the working is

the same for us as carbazepine.

Just slow down the shocks thats why we take it.

So it is not a bad choice of your dockter. We are not epileptic so it wil

not make that risk bigger cause the working on that has no effect on us.

Hope i explain it wel.

JW

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----

From: J.J.

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:58 PM

To: tetheredspinalcord

Subject: Jodi - Savella

Jan,

I can't take the Savella because it isn't compatible with my blood thinner.

That's not a good thing. Lyrica was " wonderful " but one of the side effects

was total loss of bladder control. But for that, I'd be on it. Btw, I'm half

Dutch. : )

>All i can say is try it , then decide to go on.

I'm on Oxcarbazepine right now (don't know the difference between your

Carbamazepine) and it helps me to function. But it's not giving me much pain

relief. That's what I want to.

>I am now on 3 times a day Carbamazepine 200, lyrica 75 and tramadol 50

>mg.All low dose now. And not sleepy anymore only difficulties to stand up

>in the morning but i changed this dose three day's ago and feel better

>every hour and less pain in my legs. And thats what i want.

I think we all want that. : )

>Lower the pain and by happy again.

,

I don't have fibro. That was already ruled out. It's definitely TC. I had it

back in 1994 and had surgery for it, which put me in a wheelchair. The Dr.

who did the surgery never told me that it could come back, which kind of

ticks me off. It's better to know than to be blindsided.

>I don't remember if you said you have some sort of " sensitization " ... they

>also call it fibromyalgia. ..

I'm trying to get my Dr. to increase the Oxcarbazepine just to see if that

makes a difference. I know several of you are on multiple meds but he's very

conservative and (at this point) won't even discuss it. *sigh*

>If senstitzation is the case then medications have to be on the high dose

>side to make an impact, and constantly being in pain does not regulate your

>system into " normal " mode.

>The suspicion is (in my case) that I was in severe pain for so long that

>my brain is constantly sending " flight " signals now. Meaning now I

>experience all pain differently from a " normal " person. Complex Regional

>Pain Syndrome (most severe pain ever) is caused by sensitization which is

>gone even further. They are trying out a Ketamine coma for 10 days, and

>then infusions to " reset " the brain for CRPS.

I'll do that.

>Try looking up central sensitization syndrome... it requires higher doses

>of medications, and a combination treatment plan. I guess my point is that

>if you are not having your pain controlled this is not getting a chance to

>get better. I don't know if you have other options as far as physicians but

>you need someone who understands this syndrome/concept treatment.

S'ok. : )

>Sorry.. this got rather long.

My Dr. was very worried about my mood in regards to side effects (thoughts

of suicide, etc.) but after a surgery in my early 20's (for a year I was in

SO much pain that I wanted to die), I know what that feels like and I don't

feel that way now.

>I can tell you one thing, in February I did not want to wake up anymore. I

>was constantly in severe pain, I felt like I was 90. My WHOLE body had some

>kind of sensitization pain- joints, eyes, ears, back.. all over muscle

>pain. At this point that is mostly controlled and the hope is that if I

>stick to increasing my workout schedule by 10% weekly (starting slow) and

>sleeping better (insomnia and narcolepsy!) the pain will start even getting

>better, and I may go into a remission period. But the credit for my pain

>decrease goes to my physicians who started a combination treatment and

>change my narcotic med when needed (increase).

No problem! I KNOW I need more. I just wish my Dr. was more open-minded to

multiple meds because, honestly, that's what I feel I need.

>Once again, sorry for the crazy rant here, I just want to make sure you

>understand that you may need more to start getting better.

Thanks!

>Take care, and feel free to comment! :)

Jodi

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So happy to hear you are doing better!!! :)

Subject: Jodi - Savella

To: tetheredspinalcord

Date: Thursday, September 8, 2011, 2:58 PM

 

Jan,

I can't take the Savella because it isn't compatible with my blood thinner.

That's not a good thing. Lyrica was " wonderful " but one of the side effects was

total loss of bladder control. But for that, I'd be on it. Btw, I'm half Dutch.

: )

>All i can say is try it , then decide to go on.

I'm on Oxcarbazepine right now (don't know the difference between your

 Carbamazepine) and it helps me to function. But it's not giving me much pain

relief. That's  what I want to. 

>I am now on 3 times a day Carbamazepine 200, lyrica 75 and tramadol 50 mg.All

low dose now. And not sleepy anymore only difficulties to stand up in the

morning but i changed this dose three day's ago and feel better every hour and

less pain in my legs. And thats what i want. 

I think we all want that. : )

>Lower the pain and by happy again.

,

I don't have fibro. That was already ruled out. It's definitely TC. I had it

back in 1994 and had surgery for it, which put me in a wheelchair. The Dr. who

did the surgery never told me that it could come back, which kind of ticks me

off. It's better to know than to be blindsided.

>I don't remember if you said you have some sort of " sensitization " ... they

also call it fibromyalgia. ..

I'm trying to get my Dr. to increase the Oxcarbazepine just to see if that

makes a difference. I know several of you are on multiple meds but he's very

conservative and (at this point) won't even discuss it. *sigh*

>If senstitzation is the case then medications have to be on the high dose side

to make an impact, and constantly being in pain does not regulate your system

into " normal " mode.

>The suspicion  is (in my case) that I was in severe pain for so long that my

brain is constantly  sending " flight " signals now. Meaning now I experience

all pain differently from a " normal " person. Complex Regional Pain Syndrome

(most severe pain ever) is caused by sensitization which is gone even further.

They are trying out a Ketamine coma for 10 days, and then infusions to " reset "

the brain for CRPS. 

I'll do that.

>Try looking up central sensitization syndrome... it requires higher doses of

medications, and a combination treatment plan. I guess my point is that if you

are not having your pain controlled this is not getting a chance to get better.

I don't know if you have other options as far as physicians but you need someone

who understands this syndrome/concept treatment.

S'ok. : )

>Sorry.. this got rather long.

My Dr. was very worried about my mood in regards to side effects (thoughts of

suicide, etc.) but after a surgery in my early 20's (for a year I was in SO much

pain that I wanted to die), I know what that feels like and I don't feel that

way now.

>I can tell you one thing, in February I did not want to wake up anymore. I

was constantly in severe pain, I felt like I was 90. My WHOLE body had some kind

of sensitization pain- joints, eyes, ears, back.. all over muscle pain. At this

point that is mostly controlled and the hope is that if I stick to increasing my

workout schedule by 10% weekly (starting slow) and sleeping better (insomnia and

narcolepsy!) the pain will start even getting better, and I may go into a

remission period. But the credit for my pain decrease goes to my physicians who

started a combination treatment and change my narcotic med when needed

(increase). 

No problem! I KNOW I need more. I just wish my Dr. was more open-minded to

multiple meds because, honestly, that's what I feel I need.

>Once again, sorry for the crazy rant here, I just want to make sure you

understand that you may need more to start getting better.

Thanks!

>Take care, and feel free to comment! :)

Jodi

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