Re: Need Help!!!Tonsillectomy !!

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Hi,

I had my son's tonisls removed when he was 7, and after that we barely used

antibiotics for any sort of infections. He had been on antibiotics for 6 yrs

plus....basically from the time I stopped breastfeeding/more vaccines

administered.

However, I've since read that the tonsils are part of the brain's way of

detoxing...it is path of the pathway and somehow I now figure removing them

would actual stop that pathway ??? Their inflammation is the symptom of

problems in detoxing....so we go round in circles.

Dr K is sooo smart, I am not dismissing his comments at all, I know for my son

his life became better in one area.

I have often read of the use of homeopathics for tonsil problems, so you could

google that too.

Good luck in making your decisions.

na

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> Hello,

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> I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for a year now...

When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my 6yrs old son.

He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the brian detox

ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru tonsillectomy.. If yes,

what are gains after the procedure..

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> We are kind of in confusion to see if this worth going thru procedure.

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> Please suggest/advise.

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Hi there,

I totally understand how you feel – my son is also 6 years old and exactly 1

year ago we were in the same situation - after our appointment with Dr. K he

said that my son's tonsils are constant source of bacteria/viruses and without

removing them recovery will be very difficult to almost impossible. It took us

4-5 months for me and my husband to do our additional research, talking with

other parents, doing tests, to finally decide to do tonsillectomy. I wish I was

prepared for the worsening of symptoms after the surgery. Of course with this I

don't want to scare you, this is not always the case (actually for so much

worsening of symptoms I have never heard from any other parent, although there

might be others). Prior to the surgery my son's OCD symptoms were pretty bad,

but after that he became so obsessive with things being on their certain place

or not changing anything around, that we were scared to move anything in the

house and despite that he was tantruming and screaming most of the time. For

instance if I move a cup/plate or anything in the kitchen to wash it, my son

would start screaming and because he is non-verbal we didn't know always what we

did wrong, so things were not easy. I was calling and requesting phone consult

almost every 2 weeks, because I was so desperate what to do and every time I was

reassured from Dr. D (she is Dr. K's assistant and we always do phone consults

with her between appointments with Dr. K) that this is normal reaction and

because the strep bacteria from the tonsils was released into the bloodstream

during the surgery, it will take a while for the body to clear up.

By the way I want to mention that we requested biopsy of the tonsils after they

removed them, just for our own peace of mind that we did the right thing. I was

very relieved that indeed the lab found that his tonsils and adenoid were full

with all kinds of bacteria/viruses – known and unknown (I know it sounds strange

that we liked these news, but it would be really bad if we removed his tonsils

and if they found nothing), so Dr. K's theory was obviously true.

But because things were so bad with his OCD I started looking for additional

things that may help and this lead me to try classical homeopathy. I cannot tell

for sure if classical homeopathy by itself helped (although I truly believe that

it plays big role, because we are seeing some other improvements as well) or

because we are 7 months after surgery and bacteria is finally cleared, but here

is big huge relief of OCD symptoms. I don't want even to think how bad were

things in the past, because now I have again my happy, caring, patient boy.

We have not seen any improvements in speech unfortunately (although Dr. K said

the infected tonsils were blocking his speech as well, so we are hoping to see

something there also), neither improvements in fine motor skills (my son cannot

draw or write yet).

If you decide to do the surgery it is very important to choose the right

anesthesia. We were advised to use only Versed and Sevoflurane and my son indeed

didn't have any side effects from these anesthesia. We were advised also to do

more often the MB12 injections and homeopathic support (probably you got already

these instructions).

Wish you good luck in your decision and if you have any other questions I can

try to answer.

Krassi

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> Hello,

>

> I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for a year now...

When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my 6yrs old son.

He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the brian detox

ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru tonsillectomy.. If yes,

what are gains after the procedure..

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> We are kind of in confusion to see if this worth going thru procedure.

>

> Please suggest/advise.

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My son had his taken out 9 months ago. It took a while to see the good because

he had some other issues crop up last fall. It does take 4-9 months to see the

bigger changes.

And also if I had to pick a time of year to take tonsils out, I would do it in

spring and summer, not winter. Its just harder on kids to get well in the

winter.

But I have noticed a difference in lessing of OCD, and just calmer, and less

frustration.

I did continue antibx post surg. and did a lot of herbs, homeopathic remedies to

keep

clearing out the infections, viruses. And he did have one strep infection this

year, I was kind of shocked but it cleared up, after antibx's and so far so good

as far as tonsils being removed.

I do think you need to get their thyroid tested a month or two post surge. Just

to make

sure all is working well, since its all near the throat you don't want the

thyroid gland to be harmed.

HTH's

Allie

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> > Hello,

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> > I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for a year

now... When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my 6yrs old

son. He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the brian

detox ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru tonsillectomy.. If

yes, what are gains after the procedure..

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> > We are kind of in confusion to see if this worth going thru procedure.

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> > Please suggest/advise.

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A few years ago the Moderator of a biomedical group suggested to me that before

going for a procedure recommended by a doctor I should ask him/her the following

questions:

1- How many kids have recovered after following his treatments

2- How many kids didn't have any mayor changes in their symptoms

3- Ask him/her if it would be possible to talk to the parents of the kids who

had the treatments he suggested.

I took her recommendations into account and have been implementing them not just

with doctors but with other professionals we see.

Olga

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> Hello,

>

> I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for a year now...

When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my 6yrs old son.

He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the brian detox

ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru tonsillectomy.. If yes,

what are gains after the procedure..

>

> We are kind of in confusion to see if this worth going thru procedure.

>

> Please suggest/advise.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Krassi,

You mentioned that you haven't seen any changes in Speech, Since your had

surgery year ago...But as per Dr.K that's intention to do this surgery for my

son.. My son is verbal and asks what ever he wants that's it, but can't give

complex reply and unable to pronounce words properly.

I think that my son tonsils also infected, but if we donot see gains we expect

to see, what's point though ?

Any parent who went thru tonillectomy, please give me your advise/input after

surgery about the gains & things etc...Specially in Speech ?

Thank you.

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> > Hello,

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> > I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for a year

now... When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my 6yrs old

son. He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the brian

detox ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru tonsillectomy.. If

yes, what are gains after the procedure..

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> > We are kind of in confusion to see if this worth going thru procedure.

> >

> > Please suggest/advise.

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[Guest guest]

I wanted to just mention that it can take up to 9 months to see the full effects

of improvements, if your using binders to also move out the toxins. You may

need to look at mold as an issue as well if you have not.

And lastly the GcMAF could also be something to consider testing for if you have

not done already. My son is on the homeopathic for this, and its been too soon

to say a lot but its been interesting slight changes.

So just want to give you something to hope for.

Blessings,

Allie

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> > > Hello,

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> > > I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for a year

now... When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my 6yrs old

son. He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the brian

detox ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru tonsillectomy.. If

yes, what are gains after the procedure..

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> > > We are kind of in confusion to see if this worth going thru procedure.

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> > > Please suggest/advise.

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Hello Allie,

When did you son had the surgery..Since then did you see any changes in terms of

Speech or Functional awareness or Social.

We have been using Binders for almost 7-8 months. Dr.K's assistant mentioned

about this, but Dr.K really pushed to me to process with it..

Thanks.

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> > > > Hello,

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> > > > I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for a year

now... When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my 6yrs old

son. He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the brian

detox ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru tonsillectomy.. If

yes, what are gains after the procedure..

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> > > > We are kind of in confusion to see if this worth going thru procedure.

> > > >

> > > > Please suggest/advise.

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[Guest guest]

Hi This is really interesting, I was wondering if you need to remove the tonsils even if you don't see massive inflammations in his tonsils because my son has autism, has very bad OCD and also tests show Strep so high so many times, please let me know if is worth considering removing his tonsils and if I did what can be the side effects?ThanksNuraSent from my iPhone Hello Allie,When did you son had the surgery..Since then did you see any changes in terms of Speech or Functional awareness or Social.We have been using Binders for almost 7-8 months. Dr.K's assistant mentioned about this, but Dr.K really pushed to me to process with it..Thanks.> > > >> > > > Hello,> > > > > > > > I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for a year now... When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my 6yrs old son. He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the brian detox ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru tonsillectomy.. If yes, what are gains after the procedure..> > > > > > > > We are kind of in confusion to see if this worth going thru procedure.> > > > > > > > Please suggest/advise.> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

You may want a ENT to do a Marcons deep nasal culture on your son, as well.

The tonsils for sure can hold strep, which then affects the brain since they sit

just under

the brain.

I wished I had known about this issue, dealt with OCD, and strep for years

trying to

use various treatments to name a few; Homeopathic for years, then antibx's,

IVIG,

and Herbs- Amy Yasko protocol, to no avail I was tired of having my son so sick.

And its suspected that the co infections are also living in the tonsils too.

Its such a mult. level process and there is a treatment in Germany that you can

have done

called Cryo therapy, which the tonsils are NOT removed. It usually takes 1 -3

treatments

and they have to be done a month apart. So just know that treatment is

available too.

We just could not hang out in Germany for many months or afford to go back and

forth

for these treatments. The treatment themselves are not expensive.

Here is that information for Germany for anyone interested.

www.kryopraxis.de

Also it maybe helpful post tonsils removal to use some homeopathic's

Pseu and Strep

Also I did not know this post surge for my son, but it would be helpful to use

Methyl B-12 nasal spray, can have a good affect on increased speech, visual and

audiotory processing problems, fatigue sensitivity to chemicals, autoimmune

problems.

(I have even seen Methyl B 12 patches placed behind the ears, available online

but

never have used them, so no idea on how effective they are).

Parasites need to be treated.

You may also need to use Zithromax once a week, and sporonox plus valtrex

Each child is different, and their ecology body make up is different from one

child to

the next.

I would suggest if you are not seeing results to continue to clear out

viruses,*inflammation, mold issues, EMF and look at dietary changes as well.

HTH's

Allie

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> > > > > > I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for a

year now... When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my

6yrs old son. He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the

brian detox ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru

tonsillectomy.. If yes, what are gains after the procedure..

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> > > > > > We are kind of in confusion to see if this worth going thru

procedure.

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> > > > > > Please suggest/advise.

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Hi,Thank you so much for your info, live in the UK and it is possible to go to Germany but the thing is he may not stay still and time get wasted, my other sorry is he is also diabetic. I know for sure there are viruses and infections around throat and ear. He is constantly holding ear, getting them on the wall, if you touch them they are really hot and reddish sometimes. My health service in the UK don't really support to tonsils get removed with out being critically ill. He also has serious aggressiveness and stimming as well as reall serious obsessions. I have tried so many antiviral treatments, every time I give antibiotics once course finishes symptoms come back. Therefore I feel I just need to remove them privately in Germany? Please let me know if this the right thing. He is 13yrs and can't waste any more time.Many thanks everyoneNuraSent from my iPhone You may want a ENT to do a Marcons deep nasal culture on your son, as well.The tonsils for sure can hold strep, which then affects the brain since they sit just under the brain.I wished I had known about this issue, dealt with OCD, and strep for years trying to use various treatments to name a few; Homeopathic for years, then antibx's, IVIG, and Herbs- Amy Yasko protocol, to no avail I was tired of having my son so sick.And its suspected that the co infections are also living in the tonsils too.Its such a mult. level process and there is a treatment in Germany that you can have donecalled Cryo therapy, which the tonsils are NOT removed. It usually takes 1 -3 treatmentsand they have to be done a month apart. So just know that treatment is available too.We just could not hang out in Germany for many months or afford to go back and forthfor these treatments. The treatment themselves are not expensive. Here is that information for Germany for anyone interested.www.kryopraxis.deAlso it maybe helpful post tonsils removal to use some homeopathic'sPseu and Strep Also I did not know this post surge for my son, but it would be helpful to useMethyl B-12 nasal spray, can have a good affect on increased speech, visual and audiotory processing problems, fatigue sensitivity to chemicals, autoimmune problems.(I have even seen Methyl B 12 patches placed behind the ears, available online butnever have used them, so no idea on how effective they are).Parasites need to be treated.You may also need to use Zithromax once a week, and sporonox plus valtrexEach child is different, and their ecology body make up is different from one child to the next.I would suggest if you are not seeing results to continue to clear out viruses,*inflammation, mold issues, EMF and look at dietary changes as well. HTH'sAllie> > > > > >> > > > > > Hello,> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for a year now... When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my 6yrs old son. He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the brian detox ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru tonsillectomy.. If yes, what are gains after the procedure..> > > > > > > > > > > > We are kind of in confusion to see if this worth going thru procedure.> > > > > > > > > > > > Please suggest/advise.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

My son was also having red ear and flushing issues. Our doctor said it was the babesia screwing with his autonomic nervous system ( or parasympathetic, can't remember).Keena

Hi,Thank you so much for your info, live in the UK and it is possible to go to Germany but the thing is he may not stay still and time get wasted, my other sorry is he is also diabetic. I know for sure there are viruses and infections around throat and ear. He is constantly holding ear, getting them on the wall, if you touch them they are really hot and reddish sometimes. My health service in the UK don't really support to tonsils get removed with out being critically ill. He also has serious aggressiveness and stimming as well as reall serious obsessions. I have tried so many antiviral treatments, every time I give antibiotics once course finishes symptoms come back. Therefore I feel I just need to remove them privately in Germany? Please let me know if this the right thing. He is 13yrs and can't waste any more time.Many thanks everyoneNuraSent from my iPhone

You may want a ENT to do a Marcons deep nasal culture on your son, as well.

The tonsils for sure can hold strep, which then affects the brain since they sit just under

the brain.

I wished I had known about this issue, dealt with OCD, and strep for years trying to

use various treatments to name a few; Homeopathic for years, then antibx's, IVIG,

and Herbs- Amy Yasko protocol, to no avail I was tired of having my son so sick.

And its suspected that the co infections are also living in the tonsils too.

Its such a mult. level process and there is a treatment in Germany that you can have done

called Cryo therapy, which the tonsils are NOT removed. It usually takes 1 -3 treatments

and they have to be done a month apart. So just know that treatment is available too.

We just could not hang out in Germany for many months or afford to go back and forth

for these treatments. The treatment themselves are not expensive.

Here is that information for Germany for anyone interested.

www.kryopraxis.de

Also it maybe helpful post tonsils removal to use some homeopathic's

Pseu and Strep

Also I did not know this post surge for my son, but it would be helpful to use

Methyl B-12 nasal spray, can have a good affect on increased speech, visual and audiotory processing problems, fatigue sensitivity to chemicals, autoimmune problems.

(I have even seen Methyl B 12 patches placed behind the ears, available online but

never have used them, so no idea on how effective they are).

Parasites need to be treated.

You may also need to use Zithromax once a week, and sporonox plus valtrex

Each child is different, and their ecology body make up is different from one child to

the next.

I would suggest if you are not seeing results to continue to clear out viruses,*inflammation, mold issues, EMF and look at dietary changes as well.

HTH's

Allie

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> > > > > > I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for a year now... When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my 6yrs old son. He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the brian detox ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru tonsillectomy.. If yes, what are gains after the procedure..

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> > > > > > We are kind of in confusion to see if this worth going thru procedure.

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> > > > > > Please suggest/advise.

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[Guest guest]

My own personal experience with my seriously swollen tonsils that would not quit

for about 3 years is that after treating every infection in the book they

finally went down. My former LLMD advised me not to have them removed. He felt

that they were the filter saving the rest of my body from having these

infections dumped upon them.

Yes I had strep and babesia, borrelia and bartonella and I just treated them

constantly for years. However, seemingly, treating parasites finally brought my

pathogen load down and the swelling went with it. I used a parade of alinia,

ivermectin, pyrantel pamoate, albenza, mebendazole, tindamax. And, I went right

back to my augmentin, rifampin and flagyl and I no longer the owner of enlarged

tonsils and swollen glands.

Caryn

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> > > > > > I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for a

year now... When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my

6yrs old son. He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the

brian detox ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru

tonsillectomy.. If yes, what are gains after the procedure..

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> > > > > > We are kind of in confusion to see if this worth going thru

procedure.

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> > > > > > Please suggest/advise.

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Thanks Caryn, but with my son, I am worried I will lose time treating it in long period of time and spend so much, at the same time I don't want to dosomething that I never fix.RegardsNuraSent from my iPhone My own personal experience with my seriously swollen tonsils that would not quit for about 3 years is that after treating every infection in the book they finally went down. My former LLMD advised me not to have them removed. He felt that they were the filter saving the rest of my body from having these infections dumped upon them. Yes I had strep and babesia, borrelia and bartonella and I just treated them constantly for years. However, seemingly, treating parasites finally brought my pathogen load down and the swelling went with it. I used a parade of alinia, ivermectin, pyrantel pamoate, albenza, mebendazole, tindamax. And, I went right back to my augmentin, rifampin and flagyl and I no longer the owner of enlarged tonsils and swollen glands.Caryn> > > > > >> > > > > > Hello,> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for a year now... When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my 6yrs old son. He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the brian detox ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru tonsillectomy.. If yes, what are gains after the procedure..> > > > > > > > > > > > We are kind of in confusion to see if this worth going thru procedure.> > > > > > > > > > > > Please suggest/advise.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>

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I want to mention here that if you think your child might be willing to stay

still for 18-20 seconds the best option might be doing the Cryotherapy in

Germany. Dr. Sergei Dorochov is the only one in the world who does freezing of

the tonsils, so this way you don't have to remove them and it is as effective.

Prior to my son's tonsillectomy we were considering doing this and I talked with

Dr. Dorochov over the phone, he said they do local anesthesia and all your child

needs to do is to stay still with open mouth for approximately 20 seconds.

However, my son would not do that unfortunately, he has severe anxieties in

doctor's offices (he is extremely scared and anxious even when Dr. K does the

ART testing which is not invasive at all), so that's what stopped us going this

way (I was hoping they may do general anesthesia for my son, but he said they do

only local), but for older kids who are more willing to cooperate this might be

the best solution. Dr. Dorochov said it takes usually 3-4 treatments maximum to

get rid completely of the strep and you have to do them minimum 1 month apart

(could be longer). The procedure by itself is not expensive - I think around

$300, what makes it expensive is the flying to Germany. Here is his web site:

http://www.kryopraxis.de/

and here is some more info:

http://www.devdelay.org/newsletter/articles/pdf/388-much-maligned-tonsils.pdf

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> > > > > > > > I'm new to the group, but we have been seeing Dr.Klinghardt for

a year now... When we see Dr.Klinghardt, he asked to remove the tonsils for my

6yrs old son. He told us that his tonsil are crating problems(like blocking the

brian detox ways etc...). So i was just wondering if any gone thru

tonsillectomy.. If yes, what are gains after the procedure..

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procedure.

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