parasites

[Guest guest]

That article about toxoplasma gonidii has really got me thinking. Have any of you had your child tested for that specific parasite? Do any of you know where I would even begin if I wanted my son to be tested for parasites? He has been tested for co-infections and has babesia, HH6, and mycoplasma, but I don't think there was anything about parasites.

The reason I am so intrigued by this is the following: I think we all believe that Lyme disease had something to do with our children's developmental disabilities, but if it was just Lyme why wouldn't all children infected with Lyme have Autism? I am sure we all know children infected with Lyme who have "brain fog," ADHD, etc. but they don't have Autism. I remember someone once refereeing to Lyme disease on this chat group as a "burning bush" that is constantly keeping their immune system at bay while other things sneak past the guards.

Parasites would make an interesting suspect for Autism since, like it mentioned in that article, Toxoplasma Gonidii can actually change behavior. I know Lyme disease can make a person feel horrible and can severely effect their memory and other cognitive functions, but do you think it can change a person's behavior making them do things that are self destructive?

I remember when my son was 2 and we were at a pool and he just ran full speed right into the deep end. If I didn't hold my son's hand he would run right into the middle of the street and not think twice.

I am by no way downplaying Lyme disease my son and wife are severely infected and the last three years have been pure hell, but that article just really got me thinking.

I am interested in hearing what you guys think.

Mason

[Guest guest]

Go to Youtube and watch some of the many about Lyme. Yes, it makes some

stop speaking and act all kinds of odd ways. I don't think anyone just

has Lyme, because of the way Lyme works. Lyme, mercury, retroviruses,

etc. cause the immune system to work amiss, allowing pathogens and

toxins to stockpile. So, depending upon what other pathogens and toxins

one is exposed to, can explain some of the differences. If you look up

worms, you will find that they make adults ill, and cause developmental

problems in children, such as autism, mental retardation, failure to

thrive, etc. So, children are definitely prone to more serious

symptoms. Even if you rid all parasites, there is still the problem of

what caused the body to stockpile those parasites. Many parasites,

supposedly, are able to be fought off by those who are healthy. With

all these variables, it's very difficult to know exactly what is going

on. This is why biomed covers so many areas, and the parents are doing

so many different treatments. It appears that those who are chronically

ill have all the pathogen types. The real problem is that the medical

system is not set up effectively. People are spending many years

begging docs for testing, being told insurance won't pay, or such and

such pathogens are too rare to worry about, etc. Plus, it's thought

that a short course of a prescription med is enough to bring a cure even

when a person succeeds in getting a positive test. So, it's really

about finding health practitioners that know all this, so you don't

waste time asking a doc to do something he really doesn't want to do or

know how to do.

Most of my kids had chronic diarrhea before biomed. Their pediatrician

just shrugged his shoulders. When they were given Zithromax for ear

infections, their diarrhea immediately went away, but returned when the

medicine was stopped. The other antibiotics made the diarrhea worse.

Anyhow, when I told the doc that, his answer was, " Well, I they can't

take Zithromax all the time, and said he would just treat ear

infections. " I figured that is all he was trained to do. So, anyhow,

of course, I eventually learned about recovery and sought out a

knowledgeable doc via word of mouth on my local autism forum for my state.

I have seen several people on the autism forums post that their children

tested positive for toxosplasmas, anaplasmas, unknown protozoa, Babesia,

etc. So, yes, these are a problem. Unfortunately, treating for

parasites seems to take a very long time, and most say they get great

improvements, but I have not seen anyone state that all they treated was

parasites and their child was cured. There are a few who said most of

the symptoms started dramatically decreasing just from parasite

treatments. So, it's really a matter of that our children are ill with

many infections, testing is not very reliable, and your average doc

doesn't seem to feel the infections we see on the autism forums are much

of a problem. But, if you Google, and look at the official medical

research studies, which can be done by going to www.pubmed.com or

Googling, " toxoplasma abstract, " you will be very amazed at how awful

these infections are. Plus, if you Google testing reliability, you will

be very amazed at how unreliable the medical research admits it is.

Even the labs will say their testing is only a certain percentage

reliable if all the steps taken are done correctly. Meaning, samples

have to be taken under certain conditions and handled with certain

temperatures, etc.

The docs known for their high success rates often talk about using only

certain labs and only testing certain ways, so obviously testing is an

issue. On top of that, insurance is quite picky on which tests and labs

it will pay for. So, this all adds to the problem of not being able to

test, not being able to use the best testing, and not being taken

seriously that infections are a problem in those with chronic

conditions. Oddly, if you look up infections and chronic conditions,

you will find medical research saying they are correlated. But, when

you talk to your average, local doc, or read general medical news, you

will read that there is " no known cause. " So, what we have is an

interpretation of medical research studies different than what they reflect.

Yes, us parents recovering our kids do a lot of work. We must figure a

lot of things out to navigate our journey successfully. Keep in mind

that not just those with autism are effected. But, a lot of people have

problems, many not diagnosed. Autism is often looked at as a higher

degree of illness than those with ADHD. I have even seen many parents

report that their children went from calm autism symptoms to

hyperactivity with biomed treatments, as if the calmness was a higher

degree of illness, and the hyperactivity was a sign that healing was

taking place.

In the end, mot parents end up treating for many pathogen types, and

treating from many angles (adding nutrients, regulating the immune

system, directly killing pathogens, as well as detoxing).

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

That article about toxoplasma gonidii has really got me thinking. Have

any of you had your child tested for that specific parasite? Do any of

you know where I would even begin if I wanted my son to be tested for

parasites? He has been tested for co-infections and has babesia, HH6,

and mycoplasma, but I don't think there was anything about parasites.

The reason I am so intrigued by this is the following: I think we all

believe that Lyme disease had something to do with our children's

developmental disabilities, but if it was just Lyme why wouldn't all

children infected with Lyme have Autism? I am sure we all know children

infected with Lyme who have " brain fog, " ADHD, etc. but they don't have

Autism. I remember someone once refereeing to Lyme disease on this chat

group as a " burning bush " that is constantly keeping their immune system

at bay while other things sneak past the guards.

Parasites would make an interesting suspect for Autism since, like it

mentioned in that article, Toxoplasma Gonidii can actually change

behavior. I know Lyme disease can make a person feel horrible and can

severely effect their memory and other cognitive functions, but do you

think it can change a person's behavior making them do things that are

self destructive?

I remember when my son was 2 and we were at a pool and he just ran full

speed right into the deep end. If I didn't hold my son's hand he would

run right into the middle of the street and not think twice.

I am by no way downplaying Lyme disease my son and wife are severely

infected and the last three years have been pure hell, but that article

just really got me thinking.

I am interested in hearing what you guys think.

Mason

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

Thanks for the excellent and well thought out reply. I have noticed since we started our wide range of biomed treatment for our son we have seen a change from docile and disconnected to engaged but extremely hyperactive.

I am going to talk to our LLMD about testing for parasites, especially toxoplasmosis, but like you wrote it might be hard to find an accurate lab.

All part of the journey I guess.

Thanks for all you do

Mason

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism From: fight4thekids@...Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:24:22 -0600Subject: Re: parasites

Go to Youtube and watch some of the many about Lyme. Yes, it makes some stop speaking and act all kinds of odd ways. I don't think anyone just has Lyme, because of the way Lyme works. Lyme, mercury, retroviruses, etc. cause the immune system to work amiss, allowing pathogens and toxins to stockpile. So, depending upon what other pathogens and toxins one is exposed to, can explain some of the differences. If you look up worms, you will find that they make adults ill, and cause developmental problems in children, such as autism, mental retardation, failure to thrive, etc. So, children are definitely prone to more serious symptoms. Even if you rid all parasites, there is still the problem of what caused the body to stockpile those parasites. Many parasites, supposedly, are able to be fought off by those who are healthy. With all these variables, it's very difficult to know exactly what is going on. This is why biomed covers so many areas, and the parents are doing so many different treatments. It appears that those who are chronically ill have all the pathogen types. The real problem is that the medical system is not set up effectively. People are spending many years begging docs for testing, being told insurance won't pay, or such and such pathogens are too rare to worry about, etc. Plus, it's thought that a short course of a prescription med is enough to bring a cure even when a person succeeds in getting a positive test. So, it's really about finding health practitioners that know all this, so you don't waste time asking a doc to do something he really doesn't want to do or know how to do.Most of my kids had chronic diarrhea before biomed. Their pediatrician just shrugged his shoulders. When they were given Zithromax for ear infections, their diarrhea immediately went away, but returned when the medicine was stopped. The other antibiotics made the diarrhea worse. Anyhow, when I told the doc that, his answer was, "Well, I they can't take Zithromax all the time, and said he would just treat ear infections." I figured that is all he was trained to do. So, anyhow, of course, I eventually learned about recovery and sought out a knowledgeable doc via word of mouth on my local autism forum for my state.I have seen several people on the autism forums post that their children tested positive for toxosplasmas, anaplasmas, unknown protozoa, Babesia, etc. So, yes, these are a problem. Unfortunately, treating for parasites seems to take a very long time, and most say they get great improvements, but I have not seen anyone state that all they treated was parasites and their child was cured. There are a few who said most of the symptoms started dramatically decreasing just from parasite treatments. So, it's really a matter of that our children are ill with many infections, testing is not very reliable, and your average doc doesn't seem to feel the infections we see on the autism forums are much of a problem. But, if you Google, and look at the official medical research studies, which can be done by going to www.pubmed.com or Googling, "toxoplasma abstract," you will be very amazed at how awful these infections are. Plus, if you Google testing reliability, you will be very amazed at how unreliable the medical research admits it is. Even the labs will say their testing is only a certain percentage reliable if all the steps taken are done correctly. Meaning, samples have to be taken under certain conditions and handled with certain temperatures, etc.The docs known for their high success rates often talk about using only certain labs and only testing certain ways, so obviously testing is an issue. On top of that, insurance is quite picky on which tests and labs it will pay for. So, this all adds to the problem of not being able to test, not being able to use the best testing, and not being taken seriously that infections are a problem in those with chronic conditions. Oddly, if you look up infections and chronic conditions, you will find medical research saying they are correlated. But, when you talk to your average, local doc, or read general medical news, you will read that there is "no known cause." So, what we have is an interpretation of medical research studies different than what they reflect.Yes, us parents recovering our kids do a lot of work. We must figure a lot of things out to navigate our journey successfully. Keep in mind that not just those with autism are effected. But, a lot of people have problems, many not diagnosed. Autism is often looked at as a higher degree of illness than those with ADHD. I have even seen many parents report that their children went from calm autism symptoms to hyperactivity with biomed treatments, as if the calmness was a higher degree of illness, and the hyperactivity was a sign that healing was taking place.In the end, mot parents end up treating for many pathogen types, and treating from many angles (adding nutrients, regulating the immune system, directly killing pathogens, as well as detoxing).Love and prayers,Heidi NThat article about toxoplasma gonidii has really got me thinking. Have any of you had your child tested for that specific parasite? Do any of you know where I would even begin if I wanted my son to be tested for parasites? He has been tested for co-infections and has babesia, HH6, and mycoplasma, but I don't think there was anything about parasites.The reason I am so intrigued by this is the following: I think we all believe that Lyme disease had something to do with our children's developmental disabilities, but if it was just Lyme why wouldn't all children infected with Lyme have Autism? I am sure we all know children infected with Lyme who have "brain fog," ADHD, etc. but they don't have Autism. I remember someone once refereeing to Lyme disease on this chat group as a "burning bush" that is constantly keeping their immune system at bay while other things sneak past the guards.Parasites would make an interesting suspect for Autism since, like it mentioned in that article, Toxoplasma Gonidii can actually change behavior. I know Lyme disease can make a person feel horrible and can severely effect their memory and other cognitive functions, but do you think it can change a person's behavior making them do things that are self destructive?I remember when my son was 2 and we were at a pool and he just ran full speed right into the deep end. If I didn't hold my son's hand he would run right into the middle of the street and not think twice.I am by no way downplaying Lyme disease my son and wife are severely infected and the last three years have been pure hell, but that article just really got me thinking.I am interested in hearing what you guys think.Mason

[Guest guest]

Very well written... I couldn't agree more. You have done your research! Kudos to you. ParikhSent from my iPhone

Go to Youtube and watch some of the many about Lyme. Yes, it makes some

stop speaking and act all kinds of odd ways. I don't think anyone just

has Lyme, because of the way Lyme works. Lyme, mercury, retroviruses,

etc. cause the immune system to work amiss, allowing pathogens and

toxins to stockpile. So, depending upon what other pathogens and toxins

one is exposed to, can explain some of the differences. If you look up

worms, you will find that they make adults ill, and cause developmental

problems in children, such as autism, mental retardation, failure to

thrive, etc. So, children are definitely prone to more serious

symptoms. Even if you rid all parasites, there is still the problem of

what caused the body to stockpile those parasites. Many parasites,

supposedly, are able to be fought off by those who are healthy. With

all these variables, it's very difficult to know exactly what is going

on. This is why biomed covers so many areas, and the parents are doing

so many different treatments. It appears that those who are chronically

ill have all the pathogen types. The real problem is that the medical

system is not set up effectively. People are spending many years

begging docs for testing, being told insurance won't pay, or such and

such pathogens are too rare to worry about, etc. Plus, it's thought

that a short course of a prescription med is enough to bring a cure even

when a person succeeds in getting a positive test. So, it's really

about finding health practitioners that know all this, so you don't

waste time asking a doc to do something he really doesn't want to do or

know how to do.

Most of my kids had chronic diarrhea before biomed. Their pediatrician

just shrugged his shoulders. When they were given Zithromax for ear

infections, their diarrhea immediately went away, but returned when the

medicine was stopped. The other antibiotics made the diarrhea worse.

Anyhow, when I told the doc that, his answer was, "Well, I they can't

take Zithromax all the time, and said he would just treat ear

infections." I figured that is all he was trained to do. So, anyhow,

of course, I eventually learned about recovery and sought out a

knowledgeable doc via word of mouth on my local autism forum for my state.

I have seen several people on the autism forums post that their children

tested positive for toxosplasmas, anaplasmas, unknown protozoa, Babesia,

etc. So, yes, these are a problem. Unfortunately, treating for

parasites seems to take a very long time, and most say they get great

improvements, but I have not seen anyone state that all they treated was

parasites and their child was cured. There are a few who said most of

the symptoms started dramatically decreasing just from parasite

treatments. So, it's really a matter of that our children are ill with

many infections, testing is not very reliable, and your average doc

doesn't seem to feel the infections we see on the autism forums are much

of a problem. But, if you Google, and look at the official medical

research studies, which can be done by going to www.pubmed.com or

Googling, "toxoplasma abstract," you will be very amazed at how awful

these infections are. Plus, if you Google testing reliability, you will

be very amazed at how unreliable the medical research admits it is.

Even the labs will say their testing is only a certain percentage

reliable if all the steps taken are done correctly. Meaning, samples

have to be taken under certain conditions and handled with certain

temperatures, etc.

The docs known for their high success rates often talk about using only

certain labs and only testing certain ways, so obviously testing is an

issue. On top of that, insurance is quite picky on which tests and labs

it will pay for. So, this all adds to the problem of not being able to

test, not being able to use the best testing, and not being taken

seriously that infections are a problem in those with chronic

conditions. Oddly, if you look up infections and chronic conditions,

you will find medical research saying they are correlated. But, when

you talk to your average, local doc, or read general medical news, you

will read that there is "no known cause." So, what we have is an

interpretation of medical research studies different than what they reflect.

Yes, us parents recovering our kids do a lot of work. We must figure a

lot of things out to navigate our journey successfully. Keep in mind

that not just those with autism are effected. But, a lot of people have

problems, many not diagnosed. Autism is often looked at as a higher

degree of illness than those with ADHD. I have even seen many parents

report that their children went from calm autism symptoms to

hyperactivity with biomed treatments, as if the calmness was a higher

degree of illness, and the hyperactivity was a sign that healing was

taking place.

In the end, mot parents end up treating for many pathogen types, and

treating from many angles (adding nutrients, regulating the immune

system, directly killing pathogens, as well as detoxing).

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

That article about toxoplasma gonidii has really got me thinking. Have

any of you had your child tested for that specific parasite? Do any of

you know where I would even begin if I wanted my son to be tested for

parasites? He has been tested for co-infections and has babesia, HH6,

and mycoplasma, but I don't think there was anything about parasites.

The reason I am so intrigued by this is the following: I think we all

believe that Lyme disease had something to do with our children's

developmental disabilities, but if it was just Lyme why wouldn't all

children infected with Lyme have Autism? I am sure we all know children

infected with Lyme who have "brain fog," ADHD, etc. but they don't have

Autism. I remember someone once refereeing to Lyme disease on this chat

group as a "burning bush" that is constantly keeping their immune system

at bay while other things sneak past the guards.

Parasites would make an interesting suspect for Autism since, like it

mentioned in that article, Toxoplasma Gonidii can actually change

behavior. I know Lyme disease can make a person feel horrible and can

severely effect their memory and other cognitive functions, but do you

think it can change a person's behavior making them do things that are

self destructive?

I remember when my son was 2 and we were at a pool and he just ran full

speed right into the deep end. If I didn't hold my son's hand he would

run right into the middle of the street and not think twice.

I am by no way downplaying Lyme disease my son and wife are severely

infected and the last three years have been pure hell, but that article

just really got me thinking.

I am interested in hearing what you guys think.

Mason

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[Guest guest]

I'm also interested in parasite because my son has a condition called eosinophilic esophagitis. Eosinophils are a type of white blood cell that are called into action to fight parasites. But traditional testing does not show the presence of parasites. I am feeling pretty lost. Not sure what is driving my son's condition. Seems like it could be some combination of heavy metals, parasites, Lyme, and other things. He also has what appears to be some mitochondrial disorder that is basically sub-clinical, but is somehow connected to the big picture.Thanks,

Go to Youtube and watch some of the many about Lyme. Yes, it makes some

stop speaking and act all kinds of odd ways. I don't think anyone just

has Lyme, because of the way Lyme works. Lyme, mercury, retroviruses,

etc. cause the immune system to work amiss, allowing pathogens and

toxins to stockpile. So, depending upon what other pathogens and toxins

one is exposed to, can explain some of the differences. If you look up

worms, you will find that they make adults ill, and cause developmental

problems in children, such as autism, mental retardation, failure to

thrive, etc. So, children are definitely prone to more serious

symptoms. Even if you rid all parasites, there is still the problem of

what caused the body to stockpile those parasites. Many parasites,

supposedly, are able to be fought off by those who are healthy. With

all these variables, it's very difficult to know exactly what is going

on. This is why biomed covers so many areas, and the parents are doing

so many different treatments. It appears that those who are chronically

ill have all the pathogen types. The real problem is that the medical

system is not set up effectively. People are spending many years

begging docs for testing, being told insurance won't pay, or such and

such pathogens are too rare to worry about, etc. Plus, it's thought

that a short course of a prescription med is enough to bring a cure even

when a person succeeds in getting a positive test. So, it's really

about finding health practitioners that know all this, so you don't

waste time asking a doc to do something he really doesn't want to do or

know how to do.

Most of my kids had chronic diarrhea before biomed. Their pediatrician

just shrugged his shoulders. When they were given Zithromax for ear

infections, their diarrhea immediately went away, but returned when the

medicine was stopped. The other antibiotics made the diarrhea worse.

Anyhow, when I told the doc that, his answer was, "Well, I they can't

take Zithromax all the time, and said he would just treat ear

infections." I figured that is all he was trained to do. So, anyhow,

of course, I eventually learned about recovery and sought out a

knowledgeable doc via word of mouth on my local autism forum for my state.

I have seen several people on the autism forums post that their children

tested positive for toxosplasmas, anaplasmas, unknown protozoa, Babesia,

etc. So, yes, these are a problem. Unfortunately, treating for

parasites seems to take a very long time, and most say they get great

improvements, but I have not seen anyone state that all they treated was

parasites and their child was cured. There are a few who said most of

the symptoms started dramatically decreasing just from parasite

treatments. So, it's really a matter of that our children are ill with

many infections, testing is not very reliable, and your average doc

doesn't seem to feel the infections we see on the autism forums are much

of a problem. But, if you Google, and look at the official medical

research studies, which can be done by going to www.pubmed.com or

Googling, "toxoplasma abstract," you will be very amazed at how awful

these infections are. Plus, if you Google testing reliability, you will

be very amazed at how unreliable the medical research admits it is.

Even the labs will say their testing is only a certain percentage

reliable if all the steps taken are done correctly. Meaning, samples

have to be taken under certain conditions and handled with certain

temperatures, etc.

The docs known for their high success rates often talk about using only

certain labs and only testing certain ways, so obviously testing is an

issue. On top of that, insurance is quite picky on which tests and labs

it will pay for. So, this all adds to the problem of not being able to

test, not being able to use the best testing, and not being taken

seriously that infections are a problem in those with chronic

conditions. Oddly, if you look up infections and chronic conditions,

you will find medical research saying they are correlated. But, when

you talk to your average, local doc, or read general medical news, you

will read that there is "no known cause." So, what we have is an

interpretation of medical research studies different than what they reflect.

Yes, us parents recovering our kids do a lot of work. We must figure a

lot of things out to navigate our journey successfully. Keep in mind

that not just those with autism are effected. But, a lot of people have

problems, many not diagnosed. Autism is often looked at as a higher

degree of illness than those with ADHD. I have even seen many parents

report that their children went from calm autism symptoms to

hyperactivity with biomed treatments, as if the calmness was a higher

degree of illness, and the hyperactivity was a sign that healing was

taking place.

In the end, mot parents end up treating for many pathogen types, and

treating from many angles (adding nutrients, regulating the immune

system, directly killing pathogens, as well as detoxing).

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

That article about toxoplasma gonidii has really got me thinking. Have

any of you had your child tested for that specific parasite? Do any of

you know where I would even begin if I wanted my son to be tested for

parasites? He has been tested for co-infections and has babesia, HH6,

and mycoplasma, but I don't think there was anything about parasites.

The reason I am so intrigued by this is the following: I think we all

believe that Lyme disease had something to do with our children's

developmental disabilities, but if it was just Lyme why wouldn't all

children infected with Lyme have Autism? I am sure we all know children

infected with Lyme who have "brain fog," ADHD, etc. but they don't have

Autism. I remember someone once refereeing to Lyme disease on this chat

group as a "burning bush" that is constantly keeping their immune system

at bay while other things sneak past the guards.

Parasites would make an interesting suspect for Autism since, like it

mentioned in that article, Toxoplasma Gonidii can actually change

behavior. I know Lyme disease can make a person feel horrible and can

severely effect their memory and other cognitive functions, but do you

think it can change a person's behavior making them do things that are

self destructive?

I remember when my son was 2 and we were at a pool and he just ran full

speed right into the deep end. If I didn't hold my son's hand he would

run right into the middle of the street and not think twice.

I am by no way downplaying Lyme disease my son and wife are severely

infected and the last three years have been pure hell, but that article

just really got me thinking.

I am interested in hearing what you guys think.

Mason

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I think that most docs are not putting together that autism, chronic

fatigue, etc. are from compromised immune systems. You would think that a child

with chronic diarrhea, inflamed tonsils, constant ear infections, etc. would be

about as blatant as one can get that the immune system is compromised. But,

only some docs have figured this out, and we must seek them out.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

>

> There are two of us in FL who have IgM antibody response to toxoplasma gondii

and I am now going to go for PCR.  Toxoplasma in the CNS is how they found

Arthur Ashe's HIV/AIDS.  Anyone with a  compromised immune system will show

this if they got the protozoan.  I can not tolerate the meds for toxo.  We all

have received pathogens and then opportunistic infections and need to boost the

immune system and/or kill those pathogens with the right meds.  Rocephin will

not touch Brucella for instance...etc etc...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

One of my kid's lab results came back stating mitochondria dysfunction. It then

went on to say that treating for infections and toxins make correct it; and if

not, look into genetic causes. Thus, mito problems can be caused by genetics or

pathogens or toxins. Which, of course, complicates matters.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

>

> I'm also interested in parasite because my son has a condition called

eosinophilic esophagitis.  Eosinophils are a type of white blood cell that are

called into action to fight parasites.  But traditional testing does not show

the presence of parasites. 

>

> I am feeling pretty lost.  Not sure what is driving my son's condition. 

Seems like it could be some combination of heavy metals, parasites, Lyme, and

other things.  He also has what appears to be some mitochondrial disorder that

is basically sub-clinical, but is somehow connected to the big picture.

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

We have a similar story .

My son has been diagnosed with the same condition and I also have been told by our LLND it is from the parasites. We just did ART testing again to figure out what will work for the parasites as we've done so many treatments to kill them (inlcuding DK's 6 week protocol) and the Eos #s just keep getting higher!

We are going to try mimosa pudica next but w his mito issues it has been difficult to treat him at all lately. Im at a loss as to how to adress all of this.. Im hoping the recent results of the ART testing have led us to the treatment protocol that will get him well again. Im concerned about the methylation pathway blockage that we just discovered recently and wondering if there are are any recommended doctors in the Bay Area that have been really helpful to anyone w methylation issues. We love our LLND and LLMD but wondering if we need to temporarily see a Dr that uses Yasko or similar protocols to figure out the big picture.

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Sat, February 18, 2012 12:42:26 PMSubject: Re: Re: parasites

I'm also interested in parasite because my son has a condition called eosinophilic esophagitis. Eosinophils are a type of white blood cell that are called into action to fight parasites. But traditional testing does not show the presence of parasites. I am feeling pretty lost. Not sure what is driving my son's condition. Seems like it could be some combination of heavy metals, parasites, Lyme, and other things. He also has what appears to be some mitochondrial disorder that is basically sub-clinical, but is somehow connected to the big picture.Thanks,

Go to Youtube and watch some of the many about Lyme. Yes, it makes some stop speaking and act all kinds of odd ways. I don't think anyone just has Lyme, because of the way Lyme works. Lyme, mercury, retroviruses, etc. cause the immune system to work amiss, allowing pathogens and toxins to stockpile. So, depending upon what other pathogens and toxins one is exposed to, can explain some of the differences. If you look up worms, you will find that they make adults ill, and cause developmental problems in children, such as autism, mental retardation, failure to thrive, etc. So, children are definitely prone to more serious symptoms. Even if you rid all parasites, there is still the problem of what caused the body to stockpile those parasites. Many parasites, supposedly, are able to be fought off by those who are healthy. With all these variables, it's very difficult to know exactly what is going on. This

is why biomed covers so many areas, and the parents are doing so many different treatments. It appears that those who are chronically ill have all the pathogen types. The real problem is that the medical system is not set up effectively. People are spending many years begging docs for testing, being told insurance won't pay, or such and such pathogens are too rare to worry about, etc. Plus, it's thought that a short course of a prescription med is enough to bring a cure even when a person succeeds in getting a positive test. So, it's really about finding health practitioners that know all this, so you don't waste time asking a doc to do something he really doesn't want to do or know how to do.Most of my kids had chronic diarrhea before biomed. Their pediatrician just shrugged his shoulders. When they were given Zithromax for ear infections, their diarrhea immediately went away, but returned when

the medicine was stopped. The other antibiotics made the diarrhea worse. Anyhow, when I told the doc that, his answer was, "Well, I they can't take Zithromax all the time, and said he would just treat ear infections." I figured that is all he was trained to do. So, anyhow, of course, I eventually learned about recovery and sought out a knowledgeable doc via word of mouth on my local autism forum for my state.I have seen several people on the autism forums post that their children tested positive for toxosplasmas, anaplasmas, unknown protozoa, Babesia, etc. So, yes, these are a problem. Unfortunately, treating for parasites seems to take a very long time, and most say they get great improvements, but I have not seen anyone state that all they treated was parasites and their child was cured. There are a few who said most of the symptoms started dramatically decreasing just from parasite

treatments. So, it's really a matter of that our children are ill with many infections, testing is not very reliable, and your average doc doesn't seem to feel the infections we see on the autism forums are much of a problem. But, if you Google, and look at the official medical research studies, which can be done by going to www.pubmed.com or Googling, "toxoplasma abstract," you will be very amazed at how awful these infections are. Plus, if you Google testing reliability, you will be very amazed at how unreliable the medical research admits it is. Even the labs will say their testing is only a certain percentage reliable if all the steps taken are done correctly. Meaning, samples have to be taken under certain conditions and handled with certain temperatures, etc.The docs known for their high success rates often talk about using only

certain labs and only testing certain ways, so obviously testing is an issue. On top of that, insurance is quite picky on which tests and labs it will pay for. So, this all adds to the problem of not being able to test, not being able to use the best testing, and not being taken seriously that infections are a problem in those with chronic conditions. Oddly, if you look up infections and chronic conditions, you will find medical research saying they are correlated. But, when you talk to your average, local doc, or read general medical news, you will read that there is "no known cause." So, what we have is an interpretation of medical research studies different than what they reflect.Yes, us parents recovering our kids do a lot of work. We must figure a lot of things out to navigate our journey successfully. Keep in mind that not just those with autism are effected. But, a lot of people have

problems, many not diagnosed. Autism is often looked at as a higher degree of illness than those with ADHD. I have even seen many parents report that their children went from calm autism symptoms to hyperactivity with biomed treatments, as if the calmness was a higher degree of illness, and the hyperactivity was a sign that healing was taking place.In the end, mot parents end up treating for many pathogen types, and treating from many angles (adding nutrients, regulating the immune system, directly killing pathogens, as well as detoxing).Love and prayers,Heidi NThat article about toxoplasma gonidii has really got me thinking. Have any of you had your child tested for that specific parasite? Do any of you know where I would even begin if I wanted my son to be tested for parasites? He has been tested for co-infections and has babesia, HH6, and mycoplasma, but I don't think

there was anything about parasites.The reason I am so intrigued by this is the following: I think we all believe that Lyme disease had something to do with our children's developmental disabilities, but if it was just Lyme why wouldn't all children infected with Lyme have Autism? I am sure we all know children infected with Lyme who have "brain fog," ADHD, etc. but they don't have Autism. I remember someone once refereeing to Lyme disease on this chat group as a "burning bush" that is constantly keeping their immune system at bay while other things sneak past the guards.Parasites would make an interesting suspect for Autism since, like it mentioned in that article, Toxoplasma Gonidii can actually change behavior. I know Lyme disease can make a person feel horrible and can severely effect their memory and other cognitive functions, but do you think it can change a person's behavior making them

do things that are self destructive?I remember when my son was 2 and we were at a pool and he just ran full speed right into the deep end. If I didn't hold my son's hand he would run right into the middle of the street and not think twice.I am by no way downplaying Lyme disease my son and wife are severely infected and the last three years have been pure hell, but that article just really got me thinking.I am interested in hearing what you guys think.Mason=