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Personally, I think 10 days of antibiotic is a waste of time for anything short

of an acute infection, like sinusitis or strep throat.

My son has done well on augmentin, but we have been using long term.

BTW, my son is very autistic and has well above average receptive language and

all academic skills years above normal. He is 4 years old and also apraxic/

only very few sounds. He can also construct long sentences through writing and

typing.

You can do an ATEC to see if your child is on the spectrum. Also, if you are in

the US, your school district should pay for a psychological evaluation for you.

Caryn

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> I have been a member on this list as well as several others thing to figure

out what my sons issues are.

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> His dr just gave a ex for augmentin has anyone seen any bad or good things

from this antibiotic.

> Also it is only a 10 day rx is that enough time to see any changes?

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> Thanks in advance

> Sharon ( mom to jay 4 non verbal , possible Lyme, apraxia, possible autism)

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> FYI I say possible because his receptive language is so good. And he does try

to interact with others.

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Caryn,Did you see a change in your son's behavior once he started anitbiotics. I am conducting a study of five children on the Autism Spectrum who have Lyme disease and their progress once they started antibiotics for a thesis project at the University of North Dakota.Also what is augmentin?Thanks,Mason

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism From: caryn_reid@...Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:10:08 +0000Subject: Re: Antibiotics

Personally, I think 10 days of antibiotic is a waste of time for anything short of an acute infection, like sinusitis or strep throat.

My son has done well on augmentin, but we have been using long term.

BTW, my son is very autistic and has well above average receptive language and all academic skills years above normal. He is 4 years old and also apraxic/ only very few sounds. He can also construct long sentences through writing and typing.

You can do an ATEC to see if your child is on the spectrum. Also, if you are in the US, your school district should pay for a psychological evaluation for you.

Caryn

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> I have been a member on this list as well as several others thing to figure out what my sons issues are.

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> His dr just gave a ex for augmentin has anyone seen any bad or good things from this antibiotic.

> Also it is only a 10 day rx is that enough time to see any changes?

>

> Thanks in advance

> Sharon ( mom to jay 4 non verbal , possible Lyme, apraxia, possible autism)

>

> FYI I say possible because his receptive language is so good. And he does try to interact with others.

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Thanks for the feedback. He has been through several evals some say possible asd others say It is just the verbal communication! He was extremely on the spectrum but using homeopathy has helped everything but speech.Thanks again for the advice still trying to decide on using augmentin. SharonSent from my iPad

Personally, I think 10 days of antibiotic is a waste of time for anything short of an acute infection, like sinusitis or strep throat.

My son has done well on augmentin, but we have been using long term.

BTW, my son is very autistic and has well above average receptive language and all academic skills years above normal. He is 4 years old and also apraxic/ only very few sounds. He can also construct long sentences through writing and typing.

You can do an ATEC to see if your child is on the spectrum. Also, if you are in the US, your school district should pay for a psychological evaluation for you.

Caryn

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> I have been a member on this list as well as several others thing to figure out what my sons issues are.

>

> His dr just gave a ex for augmentin has anyone seen any bad or good things from this antibiotic.

> Also it is only a 10 day rx is that enough time to see any changes?

>

> Thanks in advance

> Sharon ( mom to jay 4 non verbal , possible Lyme, apraxia, possible autism)

>

> FYI I say possible because his receptive language is so good. And he does try to interact with others.

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I keep my son on antibiotics because he is completely lost without them. Prior

to treatment my son cried 24/7, was near catatonic with no response to human

stimulus, physically disabled, in pain and held his hands in tight fists to his

body, with exception to thumb sucking.

He is still now autistic with certain severe symptoms, but most of his other

symptoms are completely gone. He still lacks social skills and speech. He is

no longer physically disabled, awake and screaming all night, unhappy, lacking

receptive language skills, is no longer unable to communicate, write, play with

his parents, hug and kiss us and he is now the smartest child any of his

teachers, therapists or school staff have ever seen. He is 4 and can add and

subtract, count money, spell perfectly, write grammatically correct sentences

and is a wiz at astronomy, geography, and anatomy, anything he gets a good book

on (or 50 books). He also knows a great deal of spanish vocabulary, but cannot

write sentences or read sentences -- he learned this from a book, we do not

speak spanish.

Augmentin is an antibiotic. Augmentin brought about play skills that were not

comprised of alphabetizing his toys from morning to night. It also eliminated

excessive urination, tantrums and the refussal to leave the house. And his

handwriting became fantastic and he regained an interest in math and learned how

to count money in one day.

My son has been on a combination of the following: azithromycin, septra,

omnicef, augmentin, flagyl, mepron, diflucan and ketaconazole for at least 3

years. I can tell you what each of them has done for his behaviors if you are

interested.

Caryn

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> > His dr just gave a ex for augmentin has anyone seen any bad or good things

from this antibiotic.

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> > Sharon ( mom to jay 4 non verbal , possible Lyme, apraxia, possible autism)

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Caryn,

Your story is amazing. Would you be willing to allow me to use your son in my study? I would not even need to know your son's name, I would refer to him as Child E. The only thing it would require is me interviewing you, either by e-mail or phone to ask about some specific behaviors and me sending you a survey for one of his teachers to fill out.

His progress is amazing and needs to be documented.

Let me know what you think.

Mason

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism From: caryn_reid@...Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:59:26 +0000Subject: Re: Antibiotics

I keep my son on antibiotics because he is completely lost without them. Prior to treatment my son cried 24/7, was near catatonic with no response to human stimulus, physically disabled, in pain and held his hands in tight fists to his body, with exception to thumb sucking.He is still now autistic with certain severe symptoms, but most of his other symptoms are completely gone. He still lacks social skills and speech. He is no longer physically disabled, awake and screaming all night, unhappy, lacking receptive language skills, is no longer unable to communicate, write, play with his parents, hug and kiss us and he is now the smartest child any of his teachers, therapists or school staff have ever seen. He is 4 and can add and subtract, count money, spell perfectly, write grammatically correct sentences and is a wiz at astronomy, geography, and anatomy, anything he gets a good book on (or 50 books). He also knows a great deal of spanish vocabulary, but cannot write sentences or read sentences -- he learned this from a book, we do not speak spanish. Augmentin is an antibiotic. Augmentin brought about play skills that were not comprised of alphabetizing his toys from morning to night. It also eliminated excessive urination, tantrums and the refussal to leave the house. And his handwriting became fantastic and he regained an interest in math and learned how to count money in one day.My son has been on a combination of the following: azithromycin, septra, omnicef, augmentin, flagyl, mepron, diflucan and ketaconazole for at least 3 years. I can tell you what each of them has done for his behaviors if you are interested.Caryn> > >> > > I have been a member on this list as well as several others thing to figure out what my sons issues are.> > > > > > His dr just gave a ex for augmentin has anyone seen any bad or good things from this antibiotic.> > > Also it is only a 10 day rx is that enough time to see any changes?> > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > Sharon ( mom to jay 4 non verbal , possible Lyme, apraxia, possible autism)> > > > > > FYI I say possible because his receptive language is so good. And he does try to interact with others.> > >>

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Mason, You can write to me off list. I would be interested to hear more about

your thesis and what degree you are pursuing.

Caryn

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Mason,

That's a great thesis! Hope that it gets the ball rolling for our kids and additional traction which might open up the purse strings for more research and treatment. Guess the challenge is posing the research so that it gets published, so go for it, your project is straight forward and holds promise.

Just a heads up, if any your participants or members of our group have had a known regressions/serious complications after vaccination, I'd like to know especially if filing a Vaccine Injury Claim. We have a small group, a great lawyer and working on experts and this becomes more powerful with numbers. Where all kids with autism or disabilities may not have been vaccinated it demonstrates that infection effects the brain, CNS and mitochrondria and that vaccines or other trauma often serves as the final blow.

Good luck! I wish abx were that easy, might be able to revisit them one day with my child but they seemed to do more harm (and he was on them long term) and since insurance has denied him everything and it's tooooo expensive to treat even securing abx overseas. if insurance pulls the plug on a kid and the kid regresses hope you increase the font size 10 fold. Its a shame that modern medicine has so many answers (and insurance so many denials) and bandaids but no idea of what medicine benefits who or who they might harm and what can be used to help and identify the latter group.

lisa

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HI :

Please email me more on this..my son did regress after vaccination..thanks..Leanne

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism From: personalcargo@...Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:39:40 -0500Subject: Re: Antibiotics

Mason,

That's a great thesis! Hope that it gets the ball rolling for our kids and additional traction which might open up the purse strings for more research and treatment. Guess the challenge is posing the research so that it gets published, so go for it, your project is straight forward and holds promise.

Just a heads up, if any your participants or members of our group have had a known regressions/serious complications after vaccination, I'd like to know especially if filing a Vaccine Injury Claim. We have a small group, a great lawyer and working on experts and this becomes more powerful with numbers. Where all kids with autism or disabilities may not have been vaccinated it demonstrates that infection effects the brain, CNS and mitochrondria and that vaccines or other trauma often serves as the final blow.

Good luck! I wish abx were that easy, might be able to revisit them one day with my child but they seemed to do more harm (and he was on them long term) and since insurance has denied him everything and it's tooooo expensive to treat even securing abx overseas. if insurance pulls the plug on a kid and the kid regresses hope you increase the font size 10 fold. Its a shame that modern medicine has so many answers (and insurance so many denials) and bandaids but no idea of what medicine benefits who or who they might harm and what can be used to help and identify the latter group.

lisa

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hi Kay,

really interesting - yes of course the war years spread diseases all

over the place. I'm so conscious of it being very much a part of

midlands, north England, cold, damp ... And yes this strange idea

that living in cold mountain areas was beneficial. I read of people

who were wealthy enough going to Europe mountain health sanitariums

of the day - and usually dying. Maybe TB was associated with warm

weather in some way?

cheers,

Joy

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My hunch is that because respiratory illnesses are most easily caught in close, closed-in quarters the doctors of the day figured fresh clean air circulation would be helpful. Bottom line is that it wasn't known what could cure it, so this was their best guess. The suffering untreated TB caused, due to lack of treatments in previous generations, is practically unimaginable, such a tragedy for so many.

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hi Kay,really interesting - yes of course the war years spread diseases all over the place. I'm so conscious of it being very much a part of midlands, north England, cold, damp ... And yes this strange idea that living in cold mountain areas was beneficial. I read of people who were wealthy enough going to Europe mountain health sanitariums of the day - and usually dying. Maybe TB was associated with warm weather in some way?cheers,Joy

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