Re: Gorge

[Guest guest]

I'd be a hypocrite to try and answer this one, given how appallingly I eat when stressed. I guzzle chocolate, and then wonder why I am irritable and cranky when my sugar levels peak then crash. I do eat a lot more fruit now: the sugar is released over a longer period which is better. I will say that a friend of mine recommended a book called "Calm Energy" by Thayer, which talks about the issue in a lot of detail. I've not read it but might be worth taking a look. x

To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Monday, 14 May 2012, 17:49 Subject: Gorge

Hello everyone,

I would some help, when i am high stressed or with high anxiety, i tend to eat a lot, everythings I have, I eat it.

How can I do to stop myself with this wrong behaviour?

[Guest guest]

Drastically cut carbohydrates.  Cut out grains completely.  Avoid any sugary processed foods.  Eat moderate level of protein and lots of fats.  But avoid seed oils.

 

Hello everyone,

I would some help, when i am high stressed or with high anxiety, i tend to eat a lot, everythings I have, I eat it.

How can I do to stop myself with this wrong behaviour?

[Guest guest]

Hi There,

You might find this of interest.

http://www.tcme.org/

Best Wishes

Simone

To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Monday, 14 May 2012, 17:49Subject: Gorge

Hello everyone,I would some help, when i am high stressed or with high anxiety, i tend to eat a lot, everythings I have, I eat it.How can I do to stop myself with this wrong behaviour?

[Guest guest]

Its likely not high stress or high anxiety -- it is more likelyhigh stress or high anxiety being suppressed,avoided, struggled with, believed and so on.Food is just the means to do that.

A slightly scary implication:when you buy into strong criticisms of yourself forovereating, you literally feed that beast.That is why ACT studies of reducing fusion with self-stigma

lead (without specific targeting on it) to better weight outcomes.I can't tell but there is a slightly judgmental feel to yourpost

I would not focus first on the behavior.It is the topography, not the function.Focus on the process. Work on the left side of the hexagon:acceptance / defusion / mindfulness; 

then reconnect with values; then focus on the behavior- S C. Foundation ProfessorDepartment of Psychology /298University of NevadaReno, NV 89557-0062

" Love isn't everything, it's the only thing "

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Hello everyone,

I would some help, when i am high stressed or with high anxiety, i tend to eat a lot, everythings I have, I eat it.

How can I do to stop myself with this wrong behaviour?

[Guest guest]

Mindful eating might be helpful to some extent.  But what you eat determines hormone levels, especially insulin and that determines your feelings of hunger or satiation.  Eating  carbs will raise insulin.  Drastically cut your carb intake.  If you want some chocolate get the dark chocolate, 85% or 88% Cacao.  One serving is usually about 5 - 8 grams of sugar and usually 2.5 servings in a large bar.  So in the whole bar your only getting 13 to 20 or 25 grams of sugar. 

 

Hi There,

 

You might find this of interest.

 

http://www.tcme.org/

 

Best Wishes

 

Simone

To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Monday, 14 May 2012, 17:49

Subject: Gorge

 

Hello everyone,I would some help, when i am high stressed or with high anxiety, i tend to eat a lot, everythings I have, I eat it.How can I do to stop myself with this wrong behaviour?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,wonder about over eating when anxious , somewhat it temporarily relieves anxiety and sometimes thoughts ? in a way , similiar to ocd? with maybe less intensive urgency to get rid of thoughts /feelings,then ocd.

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Darrell King ;

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ACT_for_the_Public <ACT_for_the_Public >;

Subject:

Gorge

Sent:

Mon, May 14, 2012 11:09:06 PM

I am testing an Omega 3 supplement. According to one MD (I am trying to dig up the reference, which I sent to my work email), our diet has resulted in a dirth of Omega 3, coupled with an over abundance of Omega 6. The result is a malfunction in the appetite, resulting in overeating.

I am not much for simple answers to complex biological questions, but this is a sensible assessment of the evidence he presents. I do not think that adding Omega 3 without altering other dietary culprits would help, but I do think that Omega 3 is lacking in our modern diet and adding it (preferably through healthy diet changes, but a supplement is the next best thing) can help.

No substitute for professional advice, but my two cents....D

 

Mindful eating might be helpful to some extent.  But what you eat determines hormone levels, especially insulin and that determines your feelings of hunger or satiation.  Eating  carbs will raise insulin.  Drastically cut your carb intake.  If you want some chocolate get the dark chocolate, 85% or 88% Cacao.  One serving is usually about 5 - 8 grams of sugar and usually 2.5 servings in a large bar.  So in the whole bar your only getting 13 to 20 or 25 grams of sugar. 

 

Hi There,

 

You might find this of interest.

 

http://www.tcme.org/

 

Best Wishes

 

Simone

To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Monday, 14 May 2012, 17:49

Subject: Gorge

 

Hello everyone,I would some help, when i am high stressed or with high anxiety, i tend to eat a lot, everythings I have, I eat it.How can I do to stop myself with this wrong behaviour?

-- Darrell G King, RN, CASAC-TRochester, NY, UShttp://darrellking.comDarrellGKing@...

[Guest guest]

.......I think we eat for all sorts of reasons other than the fact we are hungry. I nibble when I want to avoid a project, when I am bored, when I am tired, when I feel low. Hunger rarely comes into it. Bringing mindfulness to the act of eating not only enhances what you are eating - you want less because you taste more. Slowing down is exquisite. I have lost weight in this way. Then I notice that I automatically stuff my face with a handful of nuts because of xyz...! Still, - no judgement, just watching the process unfold is very interesting....

To: "ACT_for_the_Public " <ACT_for_the_Public >; "DarrellGKing@..." Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2012, 4:07Subject: Re: Gorge

Hi ,wonder about over eating when anxious , somewhat it temporarily relieves anxiety and sometimes thoughts ? in a way , similiar to ocd? with maybe less intensive urgency to get rid of thoughts /feelings,then ocd.

; To: ACT_for_the_Public <ACT_for_the_Public >; Subject: Gorge Sent: Mon, May 14, 2012 11:09:06 PM

I am testing an Omega 3 supplement. According to one MD (I am trying to dig up the reference, which I sent to my work email), our diet has resulted in a dirth of Omega 3, coupled with an over abundance of Omega 6. The result is a malfunction in the appetite, resulting in overeating.

I am not much for simple answers to complex biological questions, but this is a sensible assessment of the evidence he presents. I do not think that adding Omega 3 without altering other dietary culprits would help, but I do think that Omega 3 is lacking in our modern diet and adding it (preferably through healthy diet changes, but a supplement is the next best thing) can help.

No substitute for professional advice, but my two cents....

D

Mindful eating might be helpful to some extent. But what you eat determines hormone levels, especially insulin and that determines your feelings of hunger or satiation. Eating carbs will raise insulin. Drastically cut your carb intake. If you want some chocolate get the dark chocolate, 85% or 88% Cacao. One serving is usually about 5 - 8 grams of sugar and usually 2.5 servings in a large bar. So in the whole bar your only getting 13 to 20 or 25 grams of sugar.

Hi There,

You might find this of interest.

http://www.tcme.org/

Best Wishes

Simone

To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Monday, 14 May 2012, 17:49Subject: Gorge

Hello everyone,I would some help, when i am high stressed or with high anxiety, i tend to eat a lot, everythings I have, I eat it.How can I do to stop myself with this wrong behaviour?

-- Darrell G King, RN, CASAC-TRochester, NY, UShttp://darrellking.comDarrellGKing@...

[Guest guest]

I don't worry one bit about food cravings anymore nor all that much about my weight gain either. Stress makes us put on wieght as well as crave fatty and sugery foods. I won't eat anything with suger in, but I sometimes eat fatty food because it is adorable. But one day I will be slim again, when I reduce my stress levels. So if you are struggling with food cravings and give in, don't feel weak willed, because you're probably fighting losing battle if you suffer from stress. There was a lot about this in the baboon video I put out here recently. Anyway, have a read of this.

There is much truth behind the phrase "stress eating." Stress, the hormones it unleashes, and the effects of high-fat, sugary "comfort foods" push people toward overeating. Researchers have linked weight gain to stress, and according to an American Psychological Association survey, about one-fourth of Americans rate their stress level as 8 or more on a 10-point scale.

In the short term, stress can shut down appetite. A structure in the brain called the hypothalamus produces corticotropin-releasing hormone, which suppresses appetite. The brain also sends messages to the adrenal glands atop the kidneys to pump out the hormone epinephrine (also known as adrenaline). Epinephrine helps trigger the body's fight-or-flight response, a revved-up physiological state that temporarily puts eating on hold.

But if stress persists, it's a different story. The adrenal glands release another hormone called cortisol, and cortisol increases appetite and may also ramp up motivation in general, including the motivation to eat. Once a stressful episode is over, cortisol levels should fall, but if the stress doesn't go away — or if a person's stress response gets stuck in the "on" position — cortisol may stay elevated.

Fat and sugar cravings

Stress also seems to affect food preferences. Numerous studies — granted, many of them in animals — have shown that physical or emotional distress increases the intake of food high in fat, sugar, or both. High cortisol levels, in combination with high insulin levels, may be responsible. Other research suggests that ghrelin, a "hunger hormone," may have a role.

Once ingested, fat- and sugar-filled foods seem to have a feedback effect that inhibits activity in the parts of the brain that produce and process stress and related emotions. These foods really are "comfort" foods in that they seem to counteract stress — and this may contribute to people's stress-induced craving for those foods.

Of course, overeating isn't the only stress-related behavior that can add pounds. Stressed people also lose sleep, exercise less, and drink more alcohol, all of which can contribute to excess weight.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletters/Harvard_Mental_Health_Letter/2012/February/why-stress-causes-people-to-overeat

Kv

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[Guest guest]

Hi,I just want to throw in a few things into this thread.  First, i don't trust professionals.  In most all fields there has been lots things thought to be true by professionals and then passed on to the public but turn out to be wrong and harmful.  We can look at some of the medical practices in the 19 and 18 century and shake our heads and wonder why professionals thought that way.  But this has still been with us throughout the 20th century with all the junk Freud and his disciples spread and all the worthless and often harmful Psychoanalysis done on people.  Then, I'm sure if you twist Kaivey arm he could tell you the common professional wisdom and expert advice from pharmaceutical and psychiatric fields pushing us to take drugs is wrong and harmful.

I content that the field of nutrition today is giving us bad and harmful advice.  If you want to see how it got this way I suggest you read the Book by Taubes called Good Calorie Bad Calorie in North American and The Diet Delusion in UK and Australia. 

One thing Taubes contents that does not have proof is that eating fat causes humans (or any animal) to get fat.  He claims there is no proof for that.  Now Sugar is bad.  What Kaivey posted below is assuming eating fatty foods causes one to put on weight.  So I'd take it with a grain of salt.

Like Kaivey, I don't have as much faith in attempting to lose weight if the hormones in you body are such they cause you to crave food or make you hungry or store calories as fat.  The biggest hormone in feelings of hunger and body storing energy as fat is insulin.  And eating Carbohydrates including sugar causes rise in insulin.

Also I throw this in.  Kaivey's post suggest stress causes cravings.  But it could also be the other way around.  That the food we eat causes us to feel stress.And I'll throw in one other thing.  To me when I read Kaivey's post I hear a lot of desire to reduce stress.  But I think that may be counter to ACT's Acceptance.  I think I'm guilty of this too.  But I'd like to hear why this counter to Acceptance is in our interest.  Or perhaps really ACT's Acceptance in what is in our interest.

Cheers!

 

I don't worry one bit  about food cravings anymore nor all that much about my weight gain either. Stress makes us put on wieght as well as crave fatty and sugery foods. I won't eat anything with suger in, but I sometimes eat fatty food because it is adorable. But one day I will be slim again, when I reduce my stress levels. So if you are struggling with food cravings and give in, don't feel weak willed, because you're probably fighting losing battle if you suffer from stress. There was a lot about this in the baboon video I put out here recently. Anyway, have a read of this.

There is much truth behind the phrase " stress eating. " Stress, the hormones it unleashes, and the effects of high-fat, sugary " comfort foods " push people toward overeating. Researchers have linked weight gain to stress, and according to an American Psychological Association survey, about one-fourth of Americans rate their stress level as 8 or more on a 10-point scale.

In the short term, stress can shut down appetite. A structure in the brain called the hypothalamus produces corticotropin-releasing hormone, which suppresses appetite. The brain also sends messages to the adrenal glands atop the kidneys to pump out the hormone epinephrine (also known as adrenaline). Epinephrine helps trigger the body's fight-or-flight response, a revved-up physiological state that temporarily puts eating on hold.

But if stress persists, it's a different story. The adrenal glands release another hormone called cortisol, and cortisol increases appetite and may also ramp up motivation in general, including the motivation to eat. Once a stressful episode is over, cortisol levels should fall, but if the stress doesn't go away — or if a person's stress response gets stuck in the " on " position — cortisol may stay elevated.

Fat and sugar cravings

Stress also seems to affect food preferences. Numerous studies — granted, many of them in animals — have shown that physical or emotional distress increases the intake of food high in fat, sugar, or both. High cortisol levels, in combination with high insulin levels, may be responsible. Other research suggests that ghrelin, a " hunger hormone, " may have a role.

Once ingested, fat- and sugar-filled foods seem to have a feedback effect that inhibits activity in the parts of the brain that produce and process stress and related emotions. These foods really are " comfort " foods in that they seem to counteract stress — and this may contribute to people's stress-induced craving for those foods.

Of course, overeating isn't the only stress-related behavior that can add pounds. Stressed people also lose sleep, exercise less, and drink more alcohol, all of which can contribute to excess weight.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletters/Harvard_Mental_Health_Letter/2012/February/why-stress-causes-people-to-overeat

Kv

> >  > >>Hi There,> >> 

> >>You might find this of interest.> >> > >>http://www.tcme.org/> >> > >>Best Wishes> >> 

> >>Simone> >> >>To: ACT_for_the_Public

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