Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 Quite an interesting comment. I am curious as to what exactly a medic with a R/M attitude is or does and how you have the authority or personal experience to speak for the entire Arlington EMS system? That is quite a comment to post before the entire state and I'd like to see your references. Rick Sokolnicki EMT- P R/M Arlington (apparently with some attitude) Pedi-Tech Children's Medical Center Dallas ERC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 So what exactly is an R/M Attitude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 I can promise you that a large percentage of the Arlington Fire Department wants nothing to do with running on an ambulance. We share some stations with them and they see how busy we are. Regardless of what you THINK their opinion is on the subject...city council has not wanted to spend the several million on this program when they have been getting it for nearly nothing for so long. They are increasing their first responder program to the intermediate level and we all share the same set of protocols. Ultimately nothing will happen till a year from now when R/M's contract is up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 Jim - It is interesting to hear comments about all of the R/M operations from you since you are no longer a R/M employee and as far as I know never even worked in Arlington, F/W or Grand Prairie. I think it is a far misstatement to say Grand Prairie thought it would be cheaper it run it themselves. Five years prior to losing the contract the mayor of GP made comments that he believed the FD should run the EMS, and low and behold the next time it was bid on FD won it. As for Arl I may be only part-time but I haven't heard complaints about the medics as a whole from FD. In every system there are going to be some gripes about certain people, but that in no way reflects on the group as a whole. Just thought I'd add my 2 cents... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 grand prairie did because they figured it would be cheaper, arlington may because they are tired of the medics at R/M attitudes, hurst and watauga will be ameritech until the city takes over, and medstar is still talking about turning ems over to fire... that is what I know from the inside of R/M Jim, EMT-I, 91B18D Randy wrote: > > Does anyone know what cities in the DFW area are now starting > their own service instead of renewing with R/M? > > I know that Grand Prairie, Hurst and Watauga are but did not > know if there were others. > > Thanks > Randy > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 I am not at liberty to display references.....but the complaints are there....you personally may not be one of the few medics there that are classified in this category, but it is something that has been said on numerous occasions by the fire department at city meetings and formal complaints made to higher at r/m arlington ras119@... wrote: > > Quite an interesting comment. I am curious as to what exactly a medic with a > R/M attitude is or does and how you have the authority or personal experience > to speak for the entire Arlington EMS system? That is quite a comment to > post before the entire state and I'd like to see your references. > > Rick Sokolnicki EMT- P > R/M Arlington (apparently with some attitude) > Pedi-Tech Children's Medical Center Dallas ERC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 " Official " word from Arlington FD is that they will not take over the ambulance service. But, they are putting all personnel through to EMT-I level of training. Go figure! Take care, stay safe, and practice mercy, ya'll!! Jana FW,TX Re: [texasems-L] Rural Metro > > grand prairie did because they figured it would be cheaper, arlington may > because they are tired of the medics at R/M attitudes, hurst and watauga > will be ameritech until the city takes over, and medstar is still talking > about turning ems over to fire... > > that is what I know from the inside of R/M > > Jim, EMT-I, 91B18D > > Randy wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know what cities in the DFW area are now starting > > their own service instead of renewing with R/M? > > > > I know that Grand Prairie, Hurst and Watauga are but did not > > know if there were others. > > > > Thanks > > Randy > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 The fire department complained about the attitude of the medics at Mid Cities. The fire department complained about the attitude of the medicsat LifeStar. The Arlington Fire Department wants to run the ambulance service. Certain very foolish people want the Ft. Worth Fire Department to run that ambulance system. Nothing more need be said. Dave Re: [texasems-L] Rural Metro > > I am not at liberty to display references.....but the complaints are there....you > personally may not be one of the few medics there that are classified in this > category, but it is something that has been said on numerous occasions by the > fire department at city meetings and formal complaints made to higher at r/m > arlington > > ras119@... wrote: > > > > > Quite an interesting comment. I am curious as to what exactly a medic with a > > R/M attitude is or does and how you have the authority or personal experience > > to speak for the entire Arlington EMS system? That is quite a comment to > > post before the entire state and I'd like to see your references. > > > > Rick Sokolnicki EMT- P > > R/M Arlington (apparently with some attitude) > > Pedi-Tech Children's Medical Center Dallas ERC > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 That's a pretty worthless answer Wayne. I don't personally know anyone in the Waco system, and very few people in the Medstar system, but as a current Arlington employee I can tell you that your viewpoint is rather funny. I know that Arlington has a pretty high turnover rate and for the past two years we have had a lot of in-experienced medics on staff which aren't very cocky. I can also tell you that except for possibly Fort Worth, there is nowhere you can get the kind of call volume and experience that you can in Arlington. So if you are jealous that these guys you came across happened to show you up a little or maybe made you feel inadequate in some fashion then that is too bad. As for a R/M attitude. It has nothing to do with whom signs our pay checks, I can assure you of that. But until you have ran the number of 20+ call shifts I have and worked in a $ & @#-hot EMS System like Arlington...then I promise you will receive attitude from guys exactly like me when you show up with an attitude like yours.... Rick Sokolnicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2000 Report Share Posted September 16, 2000 From the ones that I have run into and heard about is that they think that they are better than everyone else because they work for R/M--MedStar. This is not just confined to the Ft.Worth area. I know some in the Waco area that think that they are Gods gift to EMS because they work for R/M. When you have a police officer tell you that he almost arrest a medic on scene for getting an attitude with him and the pt's family that is bad. One work.....ParaGODS. WD Re: [texasems-L] Rural Metro > > So what exactly is an R/M Attitude? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2000 Report Share Posted September 16, 2000 Wayne wrote: My Groups | Main Page | Start a new group! From the ones that I have run into and heard about is that they think that they are better than everyone else because they work for R/M--MedStar. This is not just confined to the Ft.Worth area. I know some in the Waco area that think that they are Gods gift to EMS because they work for R/M. When you have a police officer tell you that he almost arrest a medic on scene for getting an attitude with him and the pt's family that is bad. One work.....ParaGODS. WD Re: [texasems-L] Rural Metro > > So what exactly is an R/M Attitude? > > > I worked for R/M for four years and yes some people have attitudes. It is senseless but they are there. What you cant focus on is the good people that are in R/M systems. I dont work there any more but I can tell you the attitude isnt because of where they work it is the individual's own prespective that they are better. So, dont include everyone in your statements. Rochelle --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2000 Report Share Posted September 17, 2000 YES THAT'S A GOOD WORD FOR THEM, BUT YOU HAVE THEM IN EVER SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!! NO MATTER HOW THEY ARE RAN BY.... > >Reply-To: egroups >To: <egroups> >Subject: Re: [texasems-L] Rural Metro >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 01:07:37 -0500 > >From the ones that I have run into and heard about is that they think that >they are better than everyone else because they work for R/M--MedStar. >This >is not just confined to the Ft.Worth area. I know some in the Waco area >that think that they are Gods gift to EMS because they work for R/M. When >you have a police officer tell you that he almost arrest a medic on scene >for getting an attitude with him and the pt's family that is bad. > >One work.....ParaGODS. > >WD > Re: [texasems-L] Rural Metro > > > > > > So what exactly is an R/M Attitude? > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2000 Report Share Posted September 18, 2000 LloydEMTI@... wrote: My Groups | Main Page | Start a new group! I had a very upsetting experience with RM last year. I am an EMTI and have heart problems. Since we live in a rural area, my husband usually just drives me to the ER since it's faster and we don't have to wait for the ambulance. Last year I had a bad episode, and not knowing exactly what was going on (I do not present the " normal " symptoms of a heart attach, my husband called for an ambulance. Since RM is the contract service for my part of the county, they were dispatched. I explained my symptoms, the 2 attendants (driver and paramedic) loaded me and the paramedic tried to start the IV. I just happened to look out the back door of the ambulance and noticed we were taking possibly the longest route to the hospital from my home that one can take. When I questioned the paramedic about it his response was " This is the only route she (the driver) knows to get from your home to the hospital " . My husband, who had taken the quickest route waited nearly 15 minutes on us!! He was totally panicked! I couldn't believe that the driver wouldn't look up the shortest route to the hospital on a Key Map! Instead we went through the woods to grandma's house, so to speak. Since then, my husband has either taken me himself, or we have called a neighboring service where we both once volunteered. I can't imagine a driver being so simple she wouldn't ask or pick up a Key Map to find not only the shortest route, but the route with better country roads! LloydEMTI Lloyd not everyone is perfect. You being in the field should be more understanding. We as EMS try to get pts to the hosp. as quick as possible but it doesnt always happen that way. Sometimes it is better to take the route you know rather than spend more time because you got lost taking a new route. Thank You, Cetacaine --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2000 Report Share Posted September 18, 2000 Dear List, As I have posted before on this list, the Arlington Fire Department has no plans to take over the EMS System. I review every complaint that is made in the Arlington EMS System, have an office in the AFD Administration building 2 doors from the chief, and meet at least weekly with Med Ops Chiefs. Of course that doesn't guarantee me access to the secret information available to certain list members, but I can live with that. I am always willing to look into any issue that may improve Arlington EMS, and will review all complaints sent by private email, but please end these baseless public posts. As I have also stated before on this listserver, I wish we could concentrate more on issues of concern to patient care and ways to improve all of our systems. Danny Kocurek, MD Medical Director Arlington EMS System Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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