Re: off topic ???

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay,

Thank you. I think I was just feeling grumpy and probably taking things the wrong way because of all that is going on right now. I am sick again, but I did make it 4 months without antibiotic. I would never have a vest if it weren't for this group. I think it really makes a dfference.

I do enjoy the funny things the group sends as well as some of the beautiful things such as the carved trees. It really does cheer me up.

Cindi

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Fri, October 28, 2011 1:59:22 AMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Your school is in inexcusable shape and I really feel for you and for the students! I think if others thought it is OK to go off topic they were referring to funny or inspirational posts. If I know this group, they don't think political stuff is OK! On that score, when someone chewed out a member for posting fun things off topic most of us wrote her defense that we are more than bronch patients and welcome a bit of levity or inspiration from time to time. So, you may be hearing some of those opinions that off topic things are OK, but our defense of off topic things was limited to these lighter topics.

It would be sad to lose you, but you need to do what will make you happy.

Kay

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:59:27 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Hi Kay,

I understand that it was an accident. In fact I wrote to her and the group and said thank you for the apology. However, other members didn't seem willing to let it drop. I kept hearing from one person after the next saying that is was a new member and she didn't mean it, and it was alright to get a little off topic etc. They were perfectly fine with someone trashing my profession I assume. It wasn't her, but it was sent by her husband by mistake. I get it. However, it would have been nice not to keep hearing from others that I needed to be understanding etc. I send all my e-mails to the group so they should have seen me accept and acknowledge her apology.

That should have been sufficient, but it didn't seem to be for the other members.

Right now I am in a school that was built 20 years ago. It has a horrible mold problem in several rooms because of a leaky roof and nothing is being done about it. My ceiling is falling in with tiles hanging and metal pieces falling down. My windows leak and if I forget and leave any books in the bookcases underneath they area saturated. The water also runs behind the built in bookcases.

I was told by the custodian that when we report a need for repairs to downtown, they close out the old complaint and say it was fixed and put down the new work order and you start all over. He has e-mails to prove it. So nothing is being done or will be done.

My bronchiectasis was caused by mold in a school in 2001. Mold has cultured my sinuses and my lungs. I also had psuedemonias for a year and a half. I am now sick as are many students and faculty. Is it mold or just normal illness?

I teach with 20 + year old books. My social studies book says USSR on the maps. I buy books, paper, and supplemental material for my classes and I have done so for years.

I have 34 students. Four are IEP'd, one is violent and assualted a teacher last year, I also have 2 504 students and 10 on heavy duty medications per their parent's request. Two are on anti-physchotic meds. I suspect one is schizophrenic.

I love them. I am making wonderful strides with them in their behavior, reading, and math skills.

Teaching has been my life for 41 years and I don't like being identified with mobsters as if I am corrupt and extorting money from the public. Yes her husband sent that. I know that, but many other members felt it was alright to go off topic and kept telling me I was wrong to ask for no politics on the site.

All I hear is teacher bashing on the news in the papers and with many people such as the new members husband. All of us are demoralized and depressed. What did we ever do but give our lives to teach others? We have fed kids and their families, clothed them, given the families what they needed for Christmas or Thanksgiving. We have been there when children die or parents die to help comfort the living. What have the bashers done to contribute to our society?

By law I can not have my deceased husbands social security. I can't use my own 25 years of social security. I just put in another $86,000 into TRS for my retirement. I cashed in 304 B's that I have saved for many years. Now a group of citizens from other states are trying to take our retirement away from us for the second time. They don't even live in the state. They are an organized group of individuals who are not middle class or poor.

I have developed anxiety, depression, and high blood pressure from all of this. I can no longer be in this group where I am not supported but told it is alright to go off topic when the topic is making me sick.

I do appreciate all that I have learned from you. I appreciate the confidence that you have given me about my disease and my ability to manage it. I do not appreciate being "raked over the coals" for expressing my concerns about that piece of inflamatory, prejudicial, unfactual material.

Thank you Kay for your kind words. This is very long, but I hope I have explained why I no longer wish to be part of the group.

Cindi W

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Wed, October 26, 2011 11:41:22 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Cindi, it was our member's Husband who inadvertantly sent that Wisconsin political message to our group. I hope you won't let his political views sour you on our wonderful and actually fun group!

Kay

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 6:54:35 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Hi Everyone,

Thank you for all the information on the topic of bronchiectasis. I have decided to no longer participate in the group. Please remove my name from the list and I would appreciate no longer receiving your e-mails.

Good luck to all of you and good health.

Cindi W.

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Wed, October 26, 2011 6:39:47 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

I don't mind going off topic but was offended as a working teacher of 41 years by the topic. I could share my opinions on that information shared, but I won't.

Cindi W

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Tue, October 25, 2011 4:16:45 AMSubject: off topic ???

hi Cythia,it was a while ago, a mistake by someone new, who hadn't intended it for this site anyway, by now I'm sure she's feeling bad about it quite enough!!!The site is to support people with bronch, & while certain topics just aren't very helpful as such, it doesn't mean we have to be totally exclusively only discuss bronch - after all, we all are individuals, with our ways of living with it. I joined because I was interested in what others could do, did do with their lives, what they could manage, what they found difficult because of bronch maybe ... and how others cope, as I often felt isolated and coped badly at times.Now I know it's pretty much par for the course.I'm happy to go a bit "off-topic" as just bronch on its own, well, it ain't too exciting!cheersjoy h

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz,

Thank you for sharing about your family and the problems schools are facing in the UK. I didn't realize that other countries were facing similar circumstances in education. I think I was just grumpy and sensitive from all that is going on currently politically.]

I have learned so much from the group.It gives me much more support and information than any doctor has.

I didn't realize that someone couldn't end my membership in the group. That was why I made the request.

I apologize to everyone for being so touchy about political things at the moment.

I do enjoy all the inspirational and funny materials that people send. It really does help to lift my spirits.

Cindi W.

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Fri, October 28, 2011 3:29:18 AMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Hello

I don’t post here very often but I read all the posts – I know some do not and so responses can be a little off kilter.

This is a very sad situation. I feel for you, I have 2 sisters, a brother and a sister in law all in education. Both my sisters work with troubled/special needs children and I know my one sister who is a single a parent herself and not well off funds a breakfast club for some of her pupils as they are not fed breakfast at home. In a lot of our state schools the situation with resources is similar to the one you explain. Welcome to the UK in 2011……..I saw better resourced schools when I lived in Africa 20 years ago than some we have here.

It is shameful whichever side of the Atlantic you are on. I don’t ‘do’ politics but it does make you wonder what the powers that be think of us. An investment in our children is an investment in all our futures & I speak here as one with no children of my own - by choice.

On your request to leave the group. It is not something that can be done by the group – Joy has only very limited moderator privileges to admit new members and that is it. That’s why we set up the new bronchiectasis1 group. If you do wish to stop the e-mails and leave then the only way is for you to do it from your end.

I hope you might stay with us, even as a sleeper like me, we need all viewpoints to stay balanced and we need to support each other…… after all no-one understands how much this thing can get you down like a fellow sufferer.

Best wishes

LizJ

[Guest guest]

Hello Cindi,

I am sorry you feel the need to leave over something that was clearly explained as a mistake and an apology was offered. We are all human and things like that can happen. This group does NOT share political things, unless related to bronch, and most off topic things are usually labeled. I do hope you will reconsider. You don't have to be actively participating, but being part of the group gives you access to the archives of info which are a real treasure trove. If you do decide to go, you are the only one who can sign in and edit your profile to do so. Good luck with whatever decision you make

~ Liana ~

Hi Everyone,

Thank you for all the information on the topic of bronchiectasis. I have decided to no longer participate in the group. Please remove my name from the list and I would appreciate no longer receiving your e-mails.

Good luck to all of you and good health.

Cindi W.

[Guest guest]

oops, sorry for jumping in and answering too quick without going through all the messages first. Glad you decided to stay ~ Liana ~

[Guest guest]

I had not realized till I read another member's post that you are in the UK. Is that right? I kept thinking after your long message that it was inconceivable your school district would allow such disrepair that it imperiled student and teacher health. Don't think that would fly here in the U.S., although many areas are struggling to support their public schools. Someone would sue the district for endangering the students and staff!

Kay

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:58:51 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Hi Kay,

Thank you. I think I was just feeling grumpy and probably taking things the wrong way because of all that is going on right now. I am sick again, but I did make it 4 months without antibiotic. I would never have a vest if it weren't for this group. I think it really makes a dfference.

I do enjoy the funny things the group sends as well as some of the beautiful things such as the carved trees. It really does cheer me up.

Cindi

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Fri, October 28, 2011 1:59:22 AMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Your school is in inexcusable shape and I really feel for you and for the students! I think if others thought it is OK to go off topic they were referring to funny or inspirational posts. If I know this group, they don't think political stuff is OK! On that score, when someone chewed out a member for posting fun things off topic most of us wrote her defense that we are more than bronch patients and welcome a bit of levity or inspiration from time to time. So, you may be hearing some of those opinions that off topic things are OK, but our defense of off topic things was limited to these lighter topics.

It would be sad to lose you, but you need to do what will make you happy.

Kay

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:59:27 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Hi Kay,

I understand that it was an accident. In fact I wrote to her and the group and said thank you for the apology. However, other members didn't seem willing to let it drop. I kept hearing from one person after the next saying that is was a new member and she didn't mean it, and it was alright to get a little off topic etc. They were perfectly fine with someone trashing my profession I assume. It wasn't her, but it was sent by her husband by mistake. I get it. However, it would have been nice not to keep hearing from others that I needed to be understanding etc. I send all my e-mails to the group so they should have seen me accept and acknowledge her apology.

That should have been sufficient, but it didn't seem to be for the other members.

Right now I am in a school that was built 20 years ago. It has a horrible mold problem in several rooms because of a leaky roof and nothing is being done about it. My ceiling is falling in with tiles hanging and metal pieces falling down. My windows leak and if I forget and leave any books in the bookcases underneath they area saturated. The water also runs behind the built in bookcases.

I was told by the custodian that when we report a need for repairs to downtown, they close out the old complaint and say it was fixed and put down the new work order and you start all over. He has e-mails to prove it. So nothing is being done or will be done.

My bronchiectasis was caused by mold in a school in 2001. Mold has cultured my sinuses and my lungs. I also had psuedemonias for a year and a half. I am now sick as are many students and faculty. Is it mold or just normal illness?

I teach with 20 + year old books. My social studies book says USSR on the maps. I buy books, paper, and supplemental material for my classes and I have done so for years.

I have 34 students. Four are IEP'd, one is violent and assualted a teacher last year, I also have 2 504 students and 10 on heavy duty medications per their parent's request. Two are on anti-physchotic meds. I suspect one is schizophrenic.

I love them. I am making wonderful strides with them in their behavior, reading, and math skills.

Teaching has been my life for 41 years and I don't like being identified with mobsters as if I am corrupt and extorting money from the public. Yes her husband sent that. I know that, but many other members felt it was alright to go off topic and kept telling me I was wrong to ask for no politics on the site.

All I hear is teacher bashing on the news in the papers and with many people such as the new members husband. All of us are demoralized and depressed. What did we ever do but give our lives to teach others? We have fed kids and their families, clothed them, given the families what they needed for Christmas or Thanksgiving. We have been there when children die or parents die to help comfort the living. What have the bashers done to contribute to our society?

By law I can not have my deceased husbands social security. I can't use my own 25 years of social security. I just put in another $86,000 into TRS for my retirement. I cashed in 304 B's that I have saved for many years. Now a group of citizens from other states are trying to take our retirement away from us for the second time. They don't even live in the state. They are an organized group of individuals who are not middle class or poor.

I have developed anxiety, depression, and high blood pressure from all of this. I can no longer be in this group where I am not supported but told it is alright to go off topic when the topic is making me sick.

I do appreciate all that I have learned from you. I appreciate the confidence that you have given me about my disease and my ability to manage it. I do not appreciate being "raked over the coals" for expressing my concerns about that piece of inflamatory, prejudicial, unfactual material.

Thank you Kay for your kind words. This is very long, but I hope I have explained why I no longer wish to be part of the group.

Cindi W

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Wed, October 26, 2011 11:41:22 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Cindi, it was our member's Husband who inadvertantly sent that Wisconsin political message to our group. I hope you won't let his political views sour you on our wonderful and actually fun group!

Kay

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 6:54:35 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Hi Everyone,

Thank you for all the information on the topic of bronchiectasis. I have decided to no longer participate in the group. Please remove my name from the list and I would appreciate no longer receiving your e-mails.

Good luck to all of you and good health.

Cindi W.

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Wed, October 26, 2011 6:39:47 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

I don't mind going off topic but was offended as a working teacher of 41 years by the topic. I could share my opinions on that information shared, but I won't.

Cindi W

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Tue, October 25, 2011 4:16:45 AMSubject: off topic ???

hi Cythia,it was a while ago, a mistake by someone new, who hadn't intended it for this site anyway, by now I'm sure she's feeling bad about it quite enough!!!The site is to support people with bronch, & while certain topics just aren't very helpful as such, it doesn't mean we have to be totally exclusively only discuss bronch - after all, we all are individuals, with our ways of living with it. I joined because I was interested in what others could do, did do with their lives, what they could manage, what they found difficult because of bronch maybe ... and how others cope, as I often felt isolated and coped badly at times.Now I know it's pretty much par for the course.I'm happy to go a bit "off-topic" as just bronch on its own, well, it ain't too exciting!cheersjoy h

[Guest guest]

Cindi, I am so glad that you have decided to stay.   Teachers have my utmost respect for their dedication and patience with our children.  I will pray for you and the conditions in your school.  I have determined how the mistake happened…my son was the only Br in our mailbox.  I have alerted my husband and he will be more careful in forwarding “Br†mail.   I promise to bow out of the group should this happen again.     Debby From: bronchiectasis [mailto:bronchiectasis ] On Behalf Of cynthia winsteadSent: Friday, October 28, 2011 8:08 PMTo: bronchiectasis Subject: Re: off topic ??? Hi Liz, Thank you for sharing about your family and the problems schools are facing in the UK. I didn't realize that other countries were facing similar circumstances in education. I think I was just grumpy and sensitive from all that is going on currently politically.] I have learned so much from the group.It gives me much more support and information than any doctor has. I didn't realize that someone couldn't end my membership in the group. That was why I made the request. I apologize to everyone for being so touchy about political things at the moment.I do enjoy all the inspirational and funny materials that people send. It really does help to lift my spirits. Cindi W. To: bronchiectasis Sent: Fri, October 28, 2011 3:29:18 AMSubject: Re: off topic ??? Hello I don’t post here very often but I read all the posts – I know some do not and so responses can be a little off kilter. This is a very sad situation. I feel for you, I have 2 sisters, a brother and a sister in law all in education. Both my sisters work with troubled/special needs children and I know my one sister who is a single a parent herself and not well off funds a breakfast club for some of her pupils as they are not fed breakfast at home. In a lot of our state schools the situation with resources is similar to the one you explain. Welcome to the UK in 2011……..I saw better resourced schools when I lived in Africa 20 years ago than some we have here. It is shameful whichever side of the Atlantic you are on. I don’t ‘do’ politics but it does make you wonder what the powers that be think of us. An investment in our children is an investment in all our futures & I speak here as one with no children of my own - by choice. On your request to leave the group. It is not something that can be done by the group – Joy has only very limited moderator privileges to admit new members and that is it. That’s why we set up the new bronchiectasis1 group. If you do wish to stop the e-mails and leave then the only way is for you to do it from your end. I hope you might stay with us, even as a sleeper like me, we need all viewpoints to stay balanced and we need to support each other…… after all no-one understands how much this thing can get you down like a fellow sufferer. Best wishes LizJ

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am in a school district in Illinois. The second largest district in Illinois. When I became ill the first time, I waited to get well and found out in 2006 I wasn't going to do so. I was a vice principal at a school built in 1889. Many other teachers were also made ill by this and no telling how many children. It was a 99% poverty school and the students moved frequently.

My doctors had me leave the school the year after I got sick and I went back into the teaching pool. One even wrote a letter to the district telling them they were going to ruin my lungs. I did let the district know what had happened to me, but by then all the original administrators were gone.

It was too late for me to sue since I was there in 2001 and diagnosed in 2006.I did see a lawyer about it. There is also no state or federal law concerning mold in the US. I called federal authorities to find out.

Right now our union is still in negotiations about our contracts, but the teachers have pictures and they have been notified about the situation. Negotiations have stalled, not about salary, we took a freeze last year but about class size and the number of special needs students you can have all at once in your class. It is not beneficial for them to have such large classes with no one but a teacher to help them.

So far nothing has been done about the mold. I will try to figure out how to send pictures to you. They are on my school e-mail account. Our building is also sinking since it was built in a wetlands and the walls are separating. Water is also coming in the walls. They will eventually need to do major repairs.

Cindi W.

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Fri, October 28, 2011 8:15:42 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

I had not realized till I read another member's post that you are in the UK. Is that right? I kept thinking after your long message that it was inconceivable your school district would allow such disrepair that it imperiled student and teacher health. Don't think that would fly here in the U.S., although many areas are struggling to support their public schools. Someone would sue the district for endangering the students and staff!

Kay

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:58:51 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Hi Kay,

Thank you. I think I was just feeling grumpy and probably taking things the wrong way because of all that is going on right now. I am sick again, but I did make it 4 months without antibiotic. I would never have a vest if it weren't for this group. I think it really makes a dfference.

I do enjoy the funny things the group sends as well as some of the beautiful things such as the carved trees. It really does cheer me up.

Cindi

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Fri, October 28, 2011 1:59:22 AMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Your school is in inexcusable shape and I really feel for you and for the students! I think if others thought it is OK to go off topic they were referring to funny or inspirational posts. If I know this group, they don't think political stuff is OK! On that score, when someone chewed out a member for posting fun things off topic most of us wrote her defense that we are more than bronch patients and welcome a bit of levity or inspiration from time to time. So, you may be hearing some of those opinions that off topic things are OK, but our defense of off topic things was limited to these lighter topics.

It would be sad to lose you, but you need to do what will make you happy.

Kay

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:59:27 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Hi Kay,

I understand that it was an accident. In fact I wrote to her and the group and said thank you for the apology. However, other members didn't seem willing to let it drop. I kept hearing from one person after the next saying that is was a new member and she didn't mean it, and it was alright to get a little off topic etc. They were perfectly fine with someone trashing my profession I assume. It wasn't her, but it was sent by her husband by mistake. I get it. However, it would have been nice not to keep hearing from others that I needed to be understanding etc. I send all my e-mails to the group so they should have seen me accept and acknowledge her apology.

That should have been sufficient, but it didn't seem to be for the other members.

Right now I am in a school that was built 20 years ago. It has a horrible mold problem in several rooms because of a leaky roof and nothing is being done about it. My ceiling is falling in with tiles hanging and metal pieces falling down. My windows leak and if I forget and leave any books in the bookcases underneath they area saturated. The water also runs behind the built in bookcases.

I was told by the custodian that when we report a need for repairs to downtown, they close out the old complaint and say it was fixed and put down the new work order and you start all over. He has e-mails to prove it. So nothing is being done or will be done.

My bronchiectasis was caused by mold in a school in 2001. Mold has cultured my sinuses and my lungs. I also had psuedemonias for a year and a half. I am now sick as are many students and faculty. Is it mold or just normal illness?

I teach with 20 + year old books. My social studies book says USSR on the maps. I buy books, paper, and supplemental material for my classes and I have done so for years.

I have 34 students. Four are IEP'd, one is violent and assualted a teacher last year, I also have 2 504 students and 10 on heavy duty medications per their parent's request. Two are on anti-physchotic meds. I suspect one is schizophrenic.

I love them. I am making wonderful strides with them in their behavior, reading, and math skills.

Teaching has been my life for 41 years and I don't like being identified with mobsters as if I am corrupt and extorting money from the public. Yes her husband sent that. I know that, but many other members felt it was alright to go off topic and kept telling me I was wrong to ask for no politics on the site.

All I hear is teacher bashing on the news in the papers and with many people such as the new members husband. All of us are demoralized and depressed. What did we ever do but give our lives to teach others? We have fed kids and their families, clothed them, given the families what they needed for Christmas or Thanksgiving. We have been there when children die or parents die to help comfort the living. What have the bashers done to contribute to our society?

By law I can not have my deceased husbands social security. I can't use my own 25 years of social security. I just put in another $86,000 into TRS for my retirement. I cashed in 304 B's that I have saved for many years. Now a group of citizens from other states are trying to take our retirement away from us for the second time. They don't even live in the state. They are an organized group of individuals who are not middle class or poor.

I have developed anxiety, depression, and high blood pressure from all of this. I can no longer be in this group where I am not supported but told it is alright to go off topic when the topic is making me sick.

I do appreciate all that I have learned from you. I appreciate the confidence that you have given me about my disease and my ability to manage it. I do not appreciate being "raked over the coals" for expressing my concerns about that piece of inflamatory, prejudicial, unfactual material.

Thank you Kay for your kind words. This is very long, but I hope I have explained why I no longer wish to be part of the group.

Cindi W

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Wed, October 26, 2011 11:41:22 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Cindi, it was our member's Husband who inadvertantly sent that Wisconsin political message to our group. I hope you won't let his political views sour you on our wonderful and actually fun group!

Kay

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 6:54:35 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Hi Everyone,

Thank you for all the information on the topic of bronchiectasis. I have decided to no longer participate in the group. Please remove my name from the list and I would appreciate no longer receiving your e-mails.

Good luck to all of you and good health.

Cindi W.

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Wed, October 26, 2011 6:39:47 PMSubject: Re: off topic ???

I don't mind going off topic but was offended as a working teacher of 41 years by the topic. I could share my opinions on that information shared, but I won't.

Cindi W

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Tue, October 25, 2011 4:16:45 AMSubject: off topic ???

hi Cythia,it was a while ago, a mistake by someone new, who hadn't intended it for this site anyway, by now I'm sure she's feeling bad about it quite enough!!!The site is to support people with bronch, & while certain topics just aren't very helpful as such, it doesn't mean we have to be totally exclusively only discuss bronch - after all, we all are individuals, with our ways of living with it. I joined because I was interested in what others could do, did do with their lives, what they could manage, what they found difficult because of bronch maybe ... and how others cope, as I often felt isolated and coped badly at times.Now I know it's pretty much par for the course.I'm happy to go a bit "off-topic" as just bronch on its own, well, it ain't too exciting!cheersjoy h

[Guest guest]

Hi Debby,

Thank you for your kind words. I know it was a mistake and that you apologized for it. I was upset that others kept bringing it up to me after I had acknowledged your apology and even thanked you for it. I just am very touchy right now about all the teacher bashing that is going on in our society. There are so many things wrong now that we need to fix them, such as the number of people out of work. American should be pulling together not pulling apart. We have a wonderful country and many opportunities and we need to build on our strengths and get people back to work.

Cindi W.

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Fri, October 28, 2011 8:56:40 PMSubject: RE: off topic ???

Cindi,

I am so glad that you have decided to stay. Teachers have my utmost respect for their dedication and patience with our children. I will pray for you and the conditions in your school.

I have determined how the mistake happened…my son was the only Br in our mailbox. I have alerted my husband and he will be more careful in forwarding “Br†mail. I promise to bow out of the group should this happen again.

Debby

From: bronchiectasis [mailto:bronchiectasis ] On Behalf Of cynthia winsteadSent: Friday, October 28, 2011 8:08 PMTo: bronchiectasis Subject: Re: off topic ???

Hi Liz,

Thank you for sharing about your family and the problems schools are facing in the UK. I didn't realize that other countries were facing similar circumstances in education. I think I was just grumpy and sensitive from all that is going on currently politically.]

I have learned so much from the group.It gives me much more support and information than any doctor has.

I didn't realize that someone couldn't end my membership in the group. That was why I made the request.

I apologize to everyone for being so touchy about political things at the moment.

I do enjoy all the inspirational and funny materials that people send. It really does help to lift my spirits.

Cindi W.

To: bronchiectasis Sent: Fri, October 28, 2011 3:29:18 AMSubject: Re: off topic ???

Hello

I don’t post here very often but I read all the posts – I know some do not and so responses can be a little off kilter.

This is a very sad situation. I feel for you, I have 2 sisters, a brother and a sister in law all in education. Both my sisters work with troubled/special needs children and I know my one sister who is a single a parent herself and not well off funds a breakfast club for some of her pupils as they are not fed breakfast at home. In a lot of our state schools the situation with resources is similar to the one you explain. Welcome to the UK in 2011……..I saw better resourced schools when I lived in Africa 20 years ago than some we have here.

It is shameful whichever side of the Atlantic you are on. I don’t ‘do’ politics but it does make you wonder what the powers that be think of us. An investment in our children is an investment in all our futures & I speak here as one with no children of my own - by choice.

On your request to leave the group. It is not something that can be done by the group – Joy has only very limited moderator privileges to admit new members and that is it. That’s why we set up the new bronchiectasis1 group. If you do wish to stop the e-mails and leave then the only way is for you to do it from your end.

I hope you might stay with us, even as a sleeper like me, we need all viewpoints to stay balanced and we need to support each other…… after all no-one understands how much this thing can get you down like a fellow sufferer.

Best wishes

LizJ

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hi ,

I'm so sorry that a mistake has put you off staying with the group, but of

course it is our own choice in these things.

We wish you all the very best and good care with your health,

good blessings

joy h

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, your union has let you down. they should have called in OSHA, if that's how it is spelled. this is a group that determines health risks for workers. they and the union should have been there day 1. consequently, they must accept part of the blame, and the consequences. the fines levied by them on a day to day basis would have brought about change.

off topic ???

hi Cythia,it was a while ago, a mistake by someone new, who hadn't intended it for this site anyway, by now I'm sure she's feeling bad about it quite enough!!!The site is to support people with bronch, & while certain topics just aren't very helpful as such, it doesn't mean we have to be totally exclusively only discuss bronch - after all, we all are individuals, with our ways of living with it. I joined because I was interested in what others could do, did do with their lives, what they could manage, what they found difficult because of bronch maybe ... and how others cope, as I often felt isolated and coped badly at times.Now I know it's pretty much par for the course.I'm happy to go a bit "off-topic" as just bronch on its own, well, it ain't too exciting!cheersjoy h

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,

I am truly sorry I wrote so blase about the matter - the content of which I knew

little as I didn't really pay much attention, did not realise it affected -

could affect - people within the group so much. If I'd not been so ignorant I

would have been more sensitive in my response.

I went through living in a house that flooded for 3 weeks and had to continue

living in it for about 3 months - and got pretty sick, has taken til this past

month to feel I'm over most of it.

But what you've been through - I just can't imagine how any one could cope, and

stay with it. I only did 'special Ed' for a short time - you truly deserve

medals. And instead you have to manage this situation out-of-pocket to supply

teaching materials (I thought only north eastern Australia was so parochial) AND

have the worry of how you support yourself when you can no longer teach AND a

disease we all know knocks the energy out of you at times, challenges every

ounce of determination not to let it spoil or control our lives, be creative in

coping with illness and working... when at times the condition itself can wear

you so thin.

I now recall earlier posts about your schools' condition ... and how nothing

was being done about it. It really does give me a personal 'wake-up' call when

I think we're hard done by (not so, not really).

All I can hope is that you know, as much as anyone, are a part of what makes

this group so very special, and would really really be so sad if you left. I am

culpable to a large degree, it was me who wrote so lightly having idea the

affect it had. I am so very very sorry.

And, now having read other posts before finishing this I really am happy you'll

stay, we all support each other, are invaluable - you know, " the total equals

more than the sum of the parts " ...

Thank you for writing how you felt, I for one am better as a person because you

did, and a reminder not to 'speak' before I think...

hugs

joy h

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Cindi, I too am glad you've decided to stay.  I too bristled at the mistakenly sent post. As a state worker, I've had enough of the constant attacks on us. We've endured salary cuts, furloughs, unpaid leave days, fewer holidays and higher payments for health care and retirement. It gets old fast that every year it seems like the first solution to our budget problem is to go after state workers.

However, I'm thankful that I at least have a job. I may have a milder case of bronch than most of you - it's only in one lung - but I still find this list to be a valuable resource. a fellow W.

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hi Cindi,

same problems Australia, UK I suppose too ... yet our govts and NGOs just

constantly bicker, waste valuable resources and nothing useful gets done -

aaahhh, the ways of the world, I guess some things just never change much, same

'animal' just a different name and era!

but I couldn't agree more, I also wish our govt would pull together, our

Parliament in session is often referred to as 'the circus' - says it all.

am so glad you're not leaving us,

cheers,

joy h