Guest guest Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Ahem. Terry's back. To: "ACT for the Public" <ACT_for_the_Public >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:44:54 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT What's the function of posting this kind of stuff to the entire list? It seems like this back and forth about what "she said or didn't say" etc. could be done back channel. I find it distracting and annoying as I try to read along in otherwise interesting thread. To: ACT for the Public <ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:03 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT No need to answer - I'll go to the Yahoo ACT website and re-read the posts to see if I missed anything. Helena To: "ACT for the Public" <ACT_for_the_Public >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:50:30 AMSubject: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT Hi Helena, I don't know how to answer your question. I can't quote Lou's specific posts.....Wanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Ahem. Terry's back. To: "ACT for the Public" <ACT_for_the_Public >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:44:54 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT What's the function of posting this kind of stuff to the entire list? It seems like this back and forth about what "she said or didn't say" etc. could be done back channel. I find it distracting and annoying as I try to read along in otherwise interesting thread. To: ACT for the Public <ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:03 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT No need to answer - I'll go to the Yahoo ACT website and re-read the posts to see if I missed anything. Helena To: "ACT for the Public" <ACT_for_the_Public >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:50:30 AMSubject: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT Hi Helena, I don't know how to answer your question. I can't quote Lou's specific posts.....Wanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Helena,I'm wondering if you have any sense of what this might feel like for me, as you talk about me aloud to the entire group? Terry To: ACT for the Public <ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT Ahem. Terry's back. To: "ACT for the Public" <ACT_for_the_Public >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:44:54 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT What's the function of posting this kind of stuff to the entire list? It seems like this back and forth about what "she said or didn't say" etc. could be done back channel. I find it distracting and annoying as I try to read along in otherwise interesting thread. To: ACT for the Public <ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:03 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT No need to answer - I'll go to the Yahoo ACT website and re-read the posts to see if I missed anything. Helena To: "ACT for the Public" <ACT_for_the_Public >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:50:30 AMSubject: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT Hi Helena, I don't know how to answer your question. I can't quote Lou's specific posts.....Wanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Helena,I'm wondering if you have any sense of what this might feel like for me, as you talk about me aloud to the entire group? Terry To: ACT for the Public <ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT Ahem. Terry's back. To: "ACT for the Public" <ACT_for_the_Public >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:44:54 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT What's the function of posting this kind of stuff to the entire list? It seems like this back and forth about what "she said or didn't say" etc. could be done back channel. I find it distracting and annoying as I try to read along in otherwise interesting thread. To: ACT for the Public <ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:03 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT No need to answer - I'll go to the Yahoo ACT website and re-read the posts to see if I missed anything. Helena To: "ACT for the Public" <ACT_for_the_Public >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:50:30 AMSubject: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT Hi Helena, I don't know how to answer your question. I can't quote Lou's specific posts.....Wanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Welcome back, Terry!To: "ACT for the Public" <ACT_for_the_Public >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:15:59 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT Helena,I'm wondering if you have any sense of what this might feel like for me, as you talk about me aloud to the entire group? Terry To: ACT for the Public <ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT Ahem. Terry's back. To: "ACT for the Public" <ACT_for_the_Public >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:44:54 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT What's the function of posting this kind of stuff to the entire list? It seems like this back and forth about what "she said or didn't say" etc. could be done back channel. I find it distracting and annoying as I try to read along in otherwise interesting thread. To: ACT for the Public <ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:03 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT No need to answer - I'll go to the Yahoo ACT website and re-read the posts to see if I missed anything. Helena To: "ACT for the Public" <ACT_for_the_Public >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:50:30 AMSubject: Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT Hi Helena, I don't know how to answer your question. I can't quote Lou's specific posts.....Wanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Thanks Henrik I found that really helpful I haven't actually read that book yet , I got into ACT through Russ's The Happiness Trap. But I'll definitely give a read once I get my next paycheck, thanks > > > > > " Clients have a hard time shifting from a problem-solving mode > > > > > into a > > > > > mindful appreciation mode. " > > > > > > > > > > To be honest I think I've been approaching ACT in a > > > > > problem-solving mode. > > > > > So can someone give me some insight into how to approach ACT in > > > > > the mindful > > > > > appreciation mode and also what the advantages of doing so are. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > Rodney > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Let's say there is a tear in the wall paper, and one chooses to mend it by hanging an art painting in front of it.Depending on the deposition, this person may not appreciate abstract painting and frown at the spouse for that suggestion.TC>> Russ posted a good response on this.> Problem solving is great for what it is good for.> It is not good for everything.> > It is especially not good when it> establishes your life as a problem to be solved.> And your mind can easily do just that.> > You want to be able to use the mode of mind that works best in a> given situation> > The question I was asked that lead to that answer> is what does a problem solving mode of> mind look like as compared to a mindful observation mode of mind.> Trying to answer that question does not mean I think that problem solving> has no role. It has a very important role ...> but that was not the question I was addressing> > Answering such a question entirely logically is darn hard to do.> It would be like trying to answer the question "how do I do something> spontaneously?" (I'm not saying that is the same question ... just the same> kind of difficulty).> > Thus the gibberish.> > Someone else said poetry ... not sure it deserves that high minded label but> I was just trying to give voice to an experience.> It was stream of consciousness as you said.> > Sorry if it does not make sense.> > For you, the question was not answered.> We will try to find another way.> > Have you read "Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life"?> Lots of sentences in there. Part of that book is> dancing around this question as well> > - S> > C. > Foundation Professor> Department of Psychology /298> University of Nevada> Reno, NV 89557-0062> > "Love isn't everything, it's the only thing"> > hayes@... or stevenchayes@...> Fax: > Psych Department: > Contextual Change (you can use this number for messages if need be): (775)> 746-2013> > Blogs:> *Psychology Today* http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/get-out-your-mind> *Huffington Post * http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-c-hayes-phd> > If you want my vita, publications, PowerPoint slides, try my training> page:> http://contextualpsychology.org/steve_hayes> or you can try my website (it is semi-functional) stevenchayes.com> > If you have any questions about ACT or RFT (articles, AAQ information etc),> please first check the vast resources at website of the Association for> Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS): www.contextualpsychology.org. You> have to register on the site to download things, but the cost is up to your> own values.> > If you are a professional or student and want to be part of the world wide> ACT discussion or RFT discussions, join the ACT list:> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/join> or the RFT list:> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/relationalframetheory/join> > If you are a member of the public reading ACT self-help books (e.g., "Get> Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life" etc) and want to be part of that> conversation go to:> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ACT_for_the_Public/join> > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:42 PM, elisawestmore squirrel_jube@...wrote:> > > **> >> >> > Ok, I did not understand a single word of this. So, problem solving is> > bad? We should just observe? Disengage from problem solving? Not try and do> > anything? I know I must be confused, cause it sounded like you're saying> > don't try and problem solve, just mindfully observe. Which is great, but if> > they're mutually exclusive how/when do you ever actually solve any> > problems?> >> > Can you explain what you did in actual sentences and not just> > stream-of-consciousness gibberish please.> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Just to say that I see my gripe about style and function of posting here came off a bit strong and might have contributed to you feeling attacked and wanting to attack back. If you're anything like me, that is. > > Welcome back, Terry! > > Re: Question for re: problem solving vs. appreciation in ACT > > > > > > Hi Helena, I don't know how to answer your question. I can't quote Lou's specific posts.....Wanda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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