Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Have you tried to raise the dose a drop and keep it there some days to see if the reaction lessons over time? I got die-off from Yucca. I found out that it kills Bartonella which I have. I only got die-off at first, in that it never lasted more than a few days. I never used the higher doses, I don't think. It also kills other pathogens. Love and prayers, Heidi N My 5 years old son has autism. He is taking Yucca for elevated ammonia (recommended treatment by Dr using ART). He is very sensitive that we usually increase dosage very slowly. We started with 2 drops (need to get to 25 drops) and still at 6 drops after 2 months. Every time I increased the dose (only 1 drop), he got so sensory, irritable, and pushed his baby brother (17 months old) to make him fall. I thought you could only get die-off reaction from yeast, etc. So, what is this behavior that I am seeing? Should I try something different? Keep doing it slowly or increase it faster (would higher dose help?!!)? I tried to search through archive and online, but English is my second language and it is hard for me to understand all the medical terms. So anyone please advice. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I will chime in: if your DR is prescribing yucca to reduce ammonia, perhaps BH4 would work well too? Ask him if you can, it works well here.IsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: fight4thekids@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:10:43 -0600To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Ammonia Yucca Have you tried to raise the dose a drop and keep it there some days to see if the reaction lessons over time? I got die-off from Yucca. I found out that it kills Bartonella which I have. I only got die-off at first, in that it never lasted more than a few days. I never used the higher doses, I don't think. It also kills other pathogens.Love and prayers,Heidi NMy 5 years old son has autism. He is taking Yucca for elevated ammonia (recommended treatment by Dr using ART). He is very sensitive that we usually increase dosage very slowly. We started with 2 drops (need to get to 25 drops) and still at 6 drops after 2 months. Every time I increased the dose (only 1 drop), he got so sensory, irritable, and pushed his baby brother (17 months old) to make him fall.I thought you could only get die-off reaction from yeast, etc. So, what is this behavior that I am seeing? Should I try something different? Keep doing it slowly or increase it faster (would higher dose help?!!)?I tried to search through archive and online, but English is my second language and it is hard for me to understand all the medical terms. So anyone please advice. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 where do you get b h 4 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Here:Write to:aaron@... This is MP site: www.lwtinternational.comWe LIA moms are very regarded there!IsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:38:46 -0800To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Ammonia Yucca where do you get b h 4 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Be careful with arginine if you or your child has virus infections. Arginine can cause a major virus flare. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of olga.antonelloSent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:52 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Ammonia & Yucca I read in another group that Liver failure is associated with high ammonia and they recommended the following to decrese high ammonia and restore liver funtion:Milk thistleArginine in the morningAlpha ketoglutaric acidOrnithinine at bed time as it can cause sleepinessLower proteine intakemake sure the bowels move every day- after every meal is best.Olga>> My 5 years old son has autism. He is taking Yucca for elevated ammonia (recommended treatment by Dr using ART). He is very sensitive that we usually increase dosage very slowly. We started with 2 drops (need to get to 25 drops) and still at 6 drops after 2 months. Every time I increased the dose (only 1 drop), he got so sensory, irritable, and pushed his baby brother (17 months old) to make him fall. > > I thought you could only get die-off reaction from yeast, etc. So, what is this behavior that I am seeing? Should I try something different? Keep doing it slowly or increase it faster (would higher dose help?!!)? > > I tried to search through archive and online, but English is my second language and it is hard for me to understand all the medical terms. So anyone please advice. Thanks.>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5814 (20110124) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5814 (20110124) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5814 (20110124) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Yasko recommends citrulline (among other things) instead of arginine for detoxifying ammonia. Citrulline is an essential component of the urea cycle and is converted into arginine in the body. For those with high viral load, as Anne mentioned that supplementing arginine directly might not be a good idea.I would also be careful with alpha ketoglutaric acid, if an individual already has high glutamate. Supporting the liver is necessary, if ammonia is of a problem. Limin--http://www.healthbylimin.com/Young Living Distributor # 1111136"Follow those who seek the truth,but flee from those who have found it."-- Unknown originBe careful with arginine if you or your child has virus infections. Arginine can cause a major virus flare. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Ofolga.antonelloSent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:52 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Ammonia & Yucca I read in another group that Liver failure is associated with high ammonia and they recommended the following to decrese high ammonia and restore liver funtion:Milk thistleArginine in the morningAlpha ketoglutaric acidOrnithinine at bed time as it can cause sleepinessLower proteine intakemake sure the bowels move every day- after every meal is best.Olga>> My 5 years old son has autism. He is taking Yucca for elevated ammonia (recommended treatment by Dr using ART). He is very sensitive that we usually increase dosage very slowly. We started with 2 drops (need to get to 25 drops) and still at 6 drops after 2 months. Every time I increased the dose (only 1 drop), he got so sensory, irritable, and pushed his baby brother (17 months old) to make him fall. > > I thought you could only get die-off reaction from yeast, etc. So, what is this behavior that I am seeing? Should I try something different? Keep doing it slowly or increase it faster (would higher dose help?!!)? > > I tried to search through archive and online, but English is my second language and it is hard for me to understand all the medical terms. So anyone please advice. Thanks.>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5814 (20110124) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5814 (20110124) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5814 (20110124) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 calcium d-glutarate has been the charm for ammonia and estrogen here. every morning my little pal would wake up soaked in pee....peed through a diaper and pull up and i would change him at 12 or 1 in the morning...and the laundry never ended. i tested good for it and limin said it was good for ammonia (also put my older one on it to yank some estrogen) and it's been a charm. Thorne is what we started with and going to try Biotics brand. but the dry bed is absolutely heaven especially since it's so darn cold!! also he's a little more with it.... lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 ooops. guess i need more calcium d glutarate..... but i might be mistaken,but i think yucca is high oxalate which can be really inconvenient if oxalates are an issue. there was some reason i avoided it like the plague and it is also icky if you have issues with mold. lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Good for you my friend!!! How much were you giving the little man?BlessingsIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: personalcargo@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:38:26 -0500To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Ammonia Yucca calcium d-glutarate has been the charm for ammonia and estrogen here. every morning my little pal would wake up soaked in pee....peed through a diaper and pull up and i would change him at 12 or 1 in the morning...and the laundry never ended. i tested good for it and limin said it was good for ammonia (also put my older one on it to yank some estrogen) and it's been a charm. Thorne is what we started with and going to try Biotics brand. but the dry bed is absolutely heaven especially since it's so darn cold!! also he's a little more with it....lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Thanks everyone! Heidi, After I increased 1 drop, we kept it for 2 weeks till I increased again. The reaction seemed lessen over time, but it never completely went away. He is still irritable and screams. Not sure if this would give more clues, he also tested for PANDAS, which also being treated. On the other side, I noticed more eye contact and language (better enunciation). So, I assume Yucca is helping. That's why I am not sure what to do. Thanks, Eliza > > Have you tried to raise the dose a drop and keep it there some days to > see if the reaction lessons over time? I got die-off from Yucca. I > found out that it kills Bartonella which I have. I only got die-off at > first, in that it never lasted more than a few days. I never used the > higher doses, I don't think. It also kills other pathogens. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > > > My 5 years old son has autism. He is taking Yucca for elevated ammonia > (recommended treatment by Dr using ART). He is very sensitive that we > usually increase dosage very slowly. We started with 2 drops (need to > get to 25 drops) and still at 6 drops after 2 months. Every time I > increased the dose (only 1 drop), he got so sensory, irritable, and > pushed his baby brother (17 months old) to make him fall. > > I thought you could only get die-off reaction from yeast, etc. So, what > is this behavior that I am seeing? Should I try something different? > Keep doing it slowly or increase it faster (would higher dose help?!!)? > > I tried to search through archive and online, but English is my second > language and it is hard for me to understand all the medical terms. So > anyone please advice. Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 At my house, we don't move forward if the die-off is still going on. If it continues and doesn't seem to be letting up, we drop the dose a little. There is just too many unknowns. It could be an interaction, the dose might be metabolized stronger depending upon lots of things, or maybe there is something going on that makes a certain product tolerable up to a certain limit. We prefer to use several different things than a high dose of one thing. The fact that there are improvements is definitely a good sign that the particular dose you are using is already working. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > > > Have you tried to raise the dose a drop and keep it there some days to > > see if the reaction lessons over time? I got die-off from Yucca. I > > found out that it kills Bartonella which I have. I only got die-off at > > first, in that it never lasted more than a few days. I never used the > > higher doses, I don't think. It also kills other pathogens. > > > > Love and prayers, > > > > Heidi N > > > > > > My 5 years old son has autism. He is taking Yucca for elevated ammonia > > (recommended treatment by Dr using ART). He is very sensitive that we > > usually increase dosage very slowly. We started with 2 drops (need to > > get to 25 drops) and still at 6 drops after 2 months. Every time I > > increased the dose (only 1 drop), he got so sensory, irritable, and > > pushed his baby brother (17 months old) to make him fall. > > > > I thought you could only get die-off reaction from yeast, etc. So, what > > is this behavior that I am seeing? Should I try something different? > > Keep doing it slowly or increase it faster (would higher dose help?!!)? > > > > I tried to search through archive and online, but English is my second > > language and it is hard for me to understand all the medical terms. So > > anyone please advice. Thanks. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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