Re: SOS bartonella(?) flaring

[Guest guest]

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So sorry to hear that your child is suffering from leg pain. Do you have some

anti-inflammatory on board? Many of us have been treating the children for

multiple infections for long. When the symptoms still persist and new symptoms

emerge, I think that it is time to focus more on addressing the auto-immunity in

the body and less on killing infections. A combo of things to reduce the

rigidity and inflammation of the blood vessels, increase blood flow, and give

the hyperactive, confused immune system a break might help. The bugs can damage

the tissues, and one's immune system that tries to go after intracellular

infections even more so.

Bartonella and babesia can damage the blood vessels. My son does well on

pycnogenol, bilberry, and grape seed extract in this regard.

Hope your little guy have already felt much better this morning.

Limin

> My little guy spent half of yesterday in the stroller and a good 5 hours in

the car/restaraunt high chair today. He has " issues " with his left foot/leg

with blockages that have been constant and this week he has been really whiny,

waking early etc.

>

> Tonight his left leg was really bothering him and he is waking up very

startled....I'm sleeping going to sleep with him hoping that he won't flip out

of bed.

>

> His labwork and vasculation patterns clearly point to bart ( & co?) and bart,

strep and lyme just came back being biggest problems on EAV.

>

> Worried about possible clot with all that sitting but what can i do if it is

that and to take the edge of his disposition. Very out of character....and most

likely compounded due to being couped up due to too much snow and now it's

melting. Visited a toxic house today with dogs that really freak him out ;-(

>

> Any ideas? Lots of HH, low on lymph drainers but do have a bilirubin complex

that he's on to address lymphs and liver....as well as HVS stuff to cut the

edge. Was going to add in HVS bacteria tomorrow--maybe start one drop to the

belly button...we've done a few days of organ support.

>

> I guess there is some good news, he is able to tell me what's aching him, but

his symptons are a little scary and out of character for him. Out of cumunda,

but can get my hands on more in the am.

>

> TIA,

>

> lisa

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[Guest guest]

Just to add to the list, I wonder if you use any ginger ? Even a ginger tea, a

slice of fresh ginger in hot water, let it cool before drinking. Its also good

for inflammation. Some nice bath's in Espon salts, just to let him have a break

from sitting, and to help bring warmth to his body, and allow him to move his

legs as much as he can in water. And to have some fun

while soaking, maybe he can have a bubble bath, and some toys in the tub.

As long as you move him from sitting to laying down, to on his side, etc every

few hours

he should be okay. But would want to discuss this with the DR as soon as

possible.

Allie

>

> > My little guy spent half of yesterday in the stroller and a good 5 hours in

the car/restaraunt high chair today. He has " issues " with his left foot/leg

with blockages that have been constant and this week he has been really whiny,

waking early etc.

> >

> > Tonight his left leg was really bothering him and he is waking up very

startled....I'm sleeping going to sleep with him hoping that he won't flip out

of bed.

> >

> > His labwork and vasculation patterns clearly point to bart ( & co?) and bart,

strep and lyme just came back being biggest problems on EAV.

> >

> > Worried about possible clot with all that sitting but what can i do if it is

that and to take the edge of his disposition. Very out of character....and most

likely compounded due to being couped up due to too much snow and now it's

melting. Visited a toxic house today with dogs that really freak him out ;-(

> >

> > Any ideas? Lots of HH, low on lymph drainers but do have a bilirubin

complex that he's on to address lymphs and liver....as well as HVS stuff to cut

the edge. Was going to add in HVS bacteria tomorrow--maybe start one drop to

the belly button...we've done a few days of organ support.

> >

> > I guess there is some good news, he is able to tell me what's aching him,

but his symptons are a little scary and out of character for him. Out of

cumunda, but can get my hands on more in the am.

> >

> > TIA,

> >

> > lisa

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I don't think many berries have contraindications but think Bilberry is

contraindicated with anything that thins the blood. So if you are doing

anything to help vascular that would thin the blood like Natto etc, skip the

Bilberry. Holly

> Bartonella and babesia can damage the blood vessels. My son does well on

pycnogenol, bilberry, and grape seed extract in this regard.

>

> Hope your little guy have already felt much better this morning.

>

>

>

>

>

> > My little guy spent half of yesterday in the stroller and a good 5 hours in

the car/restaraunt high chair today. He has " issues " with his left foot/leg

with blockages that have been constant and this week he has been really whiny,

waking early etc.

> >

> > Tonight his left leg was really bothering him and he is waking up very

startled....I'm sleeping going to sleep with him hoping that he won't flip out

of bed.

> >

> > His labwork and vasculation patterns clearly point to bart ( & co?) and bart,

strep and lyme just came back being biggest problems on EAV.

> >

> > Worried about possible clot with all that sitting but what can i do if it is

that and to take the edge of his disposition. Very out of character....and most

likely compounded due to being couped up due to too much snow and now it's

melting. Visited a toxic house today with dogs that really freak him out ;-(

> >

> > Any ideas? Lots of HH, low on lymph drainers but do have a bilirubin

complex that he's on to address lymphs and liver....as well as HVS stuff to cut

the edge. Was going to add in HVS bacteria tomorrow--maybe start one drop to

the belly button...we've done a few days of organ support.

> >

> > I guess there is some good news, he is able to tell me what's aching him,

but his symptons are a little scary and out of character for him. Out of

cumunda, but can get my hands on more in the am.

> >

> > TIA,

> >

> > lisa

> >

> >

> >

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