Re: Enhansa, Pycnogenol, GABA for a Manic Kid (and HBOT at 2.0)

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Thanks so much for the helpful responses! I truly believe that the participants

in this group are some of the smartest people out there. The adrenal test was a

urine test run for my son, it measured amino acids (I think) and everything was

messed up, everything was in over drive.

Limin, I am curious to know if you saw any positives after you gave your son

1200mg of Enhansa? If it were me I would think that seeing those rashes would

be a very encouraging sign and would want to continue at such a high dose. Or

do you think it was damaging or hurting him? I am going to check out the

websites you sent now.

I've been a bit reluctant to volunteer this information as I understand that

this group does not focus a lot on this, but the few months that we were doing

HBOT daily at a pressure of 2.0 (I don't know of another child like my son who

has done 50+ HBOT dives at 2.0--if there are any out there I would love to hear

from them!) my son was the most affectionate and happiest I've seen him which

seems to directly relate to inflammation to me. During those intense HBOT

months he also started saying words and will try to say any word you ask him to.

I am anxious to start again. And yet, after HBOT his bloodwork ALL came back

WORSE! His WBC dropped to dangerous lows. So I am afraid the oxygen fed

bacteria and viruses. Am giving him silver now in the hopes of killing some of

the bacteria before starting up with more 2.0 HBOT this summer. Has anyone else

dealt with this?

But, we still have never made any progress at all on his stimminess and ANGER.

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> > > Hello. My son has been taking 600mg of Enhansa for a couple of months and

we have not seen any of the telltale rashes etc from this dose. I would really

like to hear from anyone here who has gone above this dose. Is it safe to go

higher than this? With my son it seems like only the most intense

doses/treatments are capable of breaking through to him.

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> > > I am also interested in learning more about Pycnogenol as I have read that

this is a good anti-inflammatory as well. Does this come in a liquid form?

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> > > Finally, am interested in finding a liquid GABA or some other type of

liquid supplements that can be used for calming and to reduce his ANGER. My son

has started talking (not sentences, just two or three words here and there to

point something out to me) several months ago so I thought this would help with

his frustration and anger but I was very wrong (as usual) and he is more

aggressive and angry (mostly toward me) than ever. He is very, very manic and

hard to take. We gave him Calm-PRT for a while but saw nothing from this. From a

recent test it shows that his adrenals are all in the red, he is in that

constant fight-or-flight mode, or as the doctor put it, constantly on the verge

of having a heart attack. Thanks for any help.

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[Guest guest]

sounds like you need to do HBOT again but WITH antibiotics and antifungals on board!!! BOOM TONS OF DIE OFF!

From: georgiasand32

Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 9:30 PM

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

Subject: Re: Enhansa, Pycnogenol, GABA for a Manic Kid (and HBOT at 2.0)

Thanks so much for the helpful responses! I truly believe that the participants in this group are some of the smartest people out there. The adrenal test was a urine test run for my son, it measured amino acids (I think) and everything was messed up, everything was in over drive.Limin, I am curious to know if you saw any positives after you gave your son 1200mg of Enhansa? If it were me I would think that seeing those rashes would be a very encouraging sign and would want to continue at such a high dose. Or do you think it was damaging or hurting him? I am going to check out the websites you sent now.I've been a bit reluctant to volunteer this information as I understand that this group does not focus a lot on this, but the few months that we were doing HBOT daily at a pressure of 2.0 (I don't know of another child like my son who has done 50+ HBOT dives at 2.0--if there are any out there I would love to hear from them!) my son was the most affectionate and happiest I've seen him which seems to directly relate to inflammation to me. During those intense HBOT months he also started saying words and will try to say any word you ask him to. I am anxious to start again. And yet, after HBOT his bloodwork ALL came back WORSE! His WBC dropped to dangerous lows. So I am afraid the oxygen fed bacteria and viruses. Am giving him silver now in the hopes of killing some of the bacteria before starting up with more 2.0 HBOT this summer. Has anyone else dealt with this?But, we still have never made any progress at all on his stimminess and ANGER. > > >> > > Hello. My son has been taking 600mg of Enhansa for a couple of months and we have not seen any of the telltale rashes etc from this dose. I would really like to hear from anyone here who has gone above this dose. Is it safe to go higher than this? With my son it seems like only the most intense doses/treatments are capable of breaking through to him.> > > > > > I am also interested in learning more about Pycnogenol as I have read that this is a good anti-inflammatory as well. Does this come in a liquid form?> > > > > > Finally, am interested in finding a liquid GABA or some other type of liquid supplements that can be used for calming and to reduce his ANGER. My son has started talking (not sentences, just two or three words here and there to point something out to me) several months ago so I thought this would help with his frustration and anger but I was very wrong (as usual) and he is more aggressive and angry (mostly toward me) than ever. He is very, very manic and hard to take. We gave him Calm-PRT for a while but saw nothing from this. From a recent test it shows that his adrenals are all in the red, he is in that constant fight-or-flight mode, or as the doctor put it, constantly on the verge of having a heart attack. Thanks for any help.> > >> > > > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

My son was wore after doing HBOT, we did not know at the time he had lyme.

I wonder if you could do a lot of support supplements for a while, lots of anti

inflammatory

supplements, including good oils, maybe even coconut oil.

It does stir up stuff.

Also for the adrenals, I don't know if you have ever heard of Seriphos, dose

around 200 mgs. You start giving it at around 4 PM, and then again at bedtime.

There is also a good book about Adrenal support, but cannot think of the name of

it.

But it gives a check list of foods, supplments, I found it very helpful.

Allie

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> > > > Hello. My son has been taking 600mg of Enhansa for a couple of months

and we have not seen any of the telltale rashes etc from this dose. I would

really like to hear from anyone here who has gone above this dose. Is it safe to

go higher than this? With my son it seems like only the most intense

doses/treatments are capable of breaking through to him.

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> > > > I am also interested in learning more about Pycnogenol as I have read

that this is a good anti-inflammatory as well. Does this come in a liquid form?

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> > > > Finally, am interested in finding a liquid GABA or some other type of

liquid supplements that can be used for calming and to reduce his ANGER. My son

has started talking (not sentences, just two or three words here and there to

point something out to me) several months ago so I thought this would help with

his frustration and anger but I was very wrong (as usual) and he is more

aggressive and angry (mostly toward me) than ever. He is very, very manic and

hard to take. We gave him Calm-PRT for a while but saw nothing from this. From a

recent test it shows that his adrenals are all in the red, he is in that

constant fight-or-flight mode, or as the doctor put it, constantly on the verge

of having a heart attack. Thanks for any help.

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I see I miss spelled, my son was worse, after HBOT

Here is the name of the book I referenced, you can read more about it on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1890572152/?tag=mh0b-20 & hvadid=151584978 & ref=pd_sl_73ak\

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> > > > > Hello. My son has been taking 600mg of Enhansa for a couple of months

and we have not seen any of the telltale rashes etc from this dose. I would

really like to hear from anyone here who has gone above this dose. Is it safe to

go higher than this? With my son it seems like only the most intense

doses/treatments are capable of breaking through to him.

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> > > > > I am also interested in learning more about Pycnogenol as I have read

that this is a good anti-inflammatory as well. Does this come in a liquid form?

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> > > > > Finally, am interested in finding a liquid GABA or some other type of

liquid supplements that can be used for calming and to reduce his ANGER. My son

has started talking (not sentences, just two or three words here and there to

point something out to me) several months ago so I thought this would help with

his frustration and anger but I was very wrong (as usual) and he is more

aggressive and angry (mostly toward me) than ever. He is very, very manic and

hard to take. We gave him Calm-PRT for a while but saw nothing from this. From a

recent test it shows that his adrenals are all in the red, he is in that

constant fight-or-flight mode, or as the doctor put it, constantly on the verge

of having a heart attack. Thanks for any help.

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[Guest guest]

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I gave that 1200 mg by mistake. Because my son broke out with skin rashes, I

stopped Enhansa until the rashes went away and restarted at 600 mg. My son has

poor capillaries. I do not like to see skin rashes for this reason.

I have not tried the high dosage long enough to be able to comment on it.

However, in most cases I do not like to use a single supplement in high dose.

Our kiddos in many aspects are " out-of-sync " . It is the balance or homeostatsis

we try to help their bodies to restore to. The body is dynamic and constantly

does multiple equilibrium adjustment and regulation. I do not like to see that

the adjustment becomes drastic due to high dose supplements. Instead of using

one single supplement in high dose, perhaps a better and safer strategy is to

use a set of supplements that work synergistically together and use them in

moderate dosage.

Anyway, each child is different. I can only speak for our own experience.

Hope your child has good gains on what you decide to implement.

Limin

> Limin, I am curious to know if you saw any positives after you gave your son

1200mg of Enhansa? If it were me I would think that seeing those rashes would

be a very encouraging sign and would want to continue at such a high dose. Or

do you think it was damaging or hurting him? I am going to check out the

websites you sent now.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Limin, that makes sense. And the Botanical Treasures looks really good,

my concern is kind of what you just addressed in that there are so many

ingredients in it I have been scared off of things with a lot of ingredients

because of all of my son's allergies. But if it would calm him down I would try

it! Have you noticed a calming effect from this? If so, how long did you have

to use it before seeing this?

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> > Limin, I am curious to know if you saw any positives after you gave your son

1200mg of Enhansa? If it were me I would think that seeing those rashes would

be a very encouraging sign and would want to continue at such a high dose. Or

do you think it was damaging or hurting him? I am going to check out the

websites you sent now.

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