Guest guest Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 it made me much worse. i gave it about six months and as i continually just got worse until it made no sense to keep going. i became totally intolerant of any zinc at all, even a few grains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Begreen, Wow. Did you do anything to mop up the metals that were released by the zinc? Now that you are off the protocol, have you gotten better to the point of where you were before KPU, or are you still worse? How long have you been off of it? > > > > it made me much worse. i gave it about six months and as i continually just got worse until it made no sense to keep going. i became totally intolerant of any zinc at all, even a few grains. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 My son has been for 6 months on the KPU protocol and I am hoping it will help with his expressive language, but so far we haven't seen much in this area. He is taking 4 CORE supplements per day (I was quite worried in the beginning that he needs to be on the highest dose, but actually he is doing well). We are seeing some gains lately in his social development - he is more connected with us, now he kisses me and hugs me spontaneously and overall he initiates to play with us from time to time. Also, his appetite is way better than before, but I cannot pinpoint if the gains are coming from the KPU protocol exactly because there are so many other supplements we are giving him. I definitely think it is helping his immune system, because this is the first winter that he hasn't been sick at all(previously he was always sick during the winters for at least few times for 1 full week), although he is exposed to kids every day. HTH, Krassi > > Hi everyone, > > I just listened to Klinghardt's talk at the 2009 LIA conference about the KPU protocol. I'm wondering -- what kinds of results is everyone getting with this protocol? Thanks for sharing, > > Rosner > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 My son and I both saw immediate results from treatment. More than anything - treatment with CORE supplement reduced anxiety for me. I also used to sometimes have involuntary muscle contraction (for example when watching a really intense movie - it would feel like all my muscles would lock up on me and I couldnt relax them). The second day of taking Core, I noticed that no longer happened. A couple of months after starting the supplement at a low dose, My son and I both tested positive for KPU issues and our dose was subsequently increased. To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 7:46:26 PMSubject: KPU protocol Hi everyone,I just listened to Klinghardt's talk at the 2009 LIA conference about the KPU protocol. I'm wondering -- what kinds of results is everyone getting with this protocol? Thanks for sharing, Rosner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 no, i did not get better and go back to baseline. i got permanently worse. and yes, i took every suggestion for detox, except for the super expensive microsilica stuff. i took handfuls of detox supplements. i found b6 increased the excitotoxicity. i have no idea what happened . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 My son has improved much more as far as energy, and expressive skills. I don't know if I would be here if I had not started taking it, I was in really bad shape, and barely able to function. I can go a day without taking it, but I also noticed that I still need it. I may need to take some kind of maintance dose for years. HTH's Allie > > no, i did not get better and go back to baseline. i got permanently worse. and yes, i took every suggestion for detox, except for the super expensive microsilica stuff. i took handfuls of detox supplements. i found b6 increased the excitotoxicity. i have no idea what happened . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Wow, interesting that some people notice positive results and others negative. Perhaps the moral of the story is to stop the protocol if it makes you feel terrible. On the other hand, that terrible feeling is supposedly part of the detox reaction. Still, I think you should be noticing SOME positive changes in the early phases, right? For those who got positive results -- what kind of detox reactions did you notice? Were they overwhelming? How long did they last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Hey , Early on in my lyme treatments both my hair analysis and my urine challenge tests showed that I didn't have much of a heavy metals problem. I remembered Dr. K saying that the amount of infections we have in our body is proportional to the amount of metals we have. I just figured since I didn't seem to have much of a metals problem that I must be some sort of anomaly, very infected without the metals. But when I became a patient of Dr. K's they started me on The Core mineral supplement for KPU. From that day forward my hair analyses and urine challenge tests began showing high levels of mobilized metals. So I WAS metal toxic, my body was just holding on to them so tightly because it was so minerally deficient. I think the difficult aspect of doing the KPU protocol is that when the minerals are added back in to the system the body doesn't always drop the metals in an orderly fashion. It can release them in waves, causing some pretty acute metal toxicity. If someone isn't being monitored closely they can injure themselves. I've heard at Dr. K's they are starting people on lower doses of minerals than they were before because its more easily tolerated. I've been slowly but steadily making improvements over the last year doing the KPU, but like the others i've also been doing many other things so its hard to say for sure whats doing it for me. Thane > > Wow, interesting that some people notice positive results and others negative. Perhaps the moral of the story is to stop the protocol if it makes you feel terrible. On the other hand, that terrible feeling is supposedly part of the detox reaction. Still, I think you should be noticing SOME positive changes in the early phases, right? > > For those who got positive results -- what kind of detox reactions did you notice? Were they overwhelming? How long did they last? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I totally agree with Thane's comments. My experience was the KPU was difficult - though ultimately worth doing. The more zinc one attempts to do, the more difficult the ride seems to become. I suspect that many people that report feeling worse on initial KPU treatment are having a detox reaction / metal release / immune awakening, not an actual worsening of their condition. Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 So for the people who stuck with the kpu and came out the other side, can you now take zinc with no reaction? > > I totally agree with Thane's comments. My experience was the KPU was > difficult - though ultimately worth doing. The more zinc one attempts > to do, the more difficult the ride seems to become. > > I suspect that many people that report feeling worse on initial KPU > treatment are having a detox reaction / metal release / immune > awakening, not an actual worsening of their condition. > > Best, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I have been following a modified KPU protocol since June 2009. I tested negative for KPU, but had many symptoms of zinc deficiency, including hair loss. I have been taking 180 mg of zinc daily since then, and get reactions of hair loss when I try to drop the dose to 150 mg or less. I feel much better than I did in 2009, at least metal-wise. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of theskyking111Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:57 AMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: KPU protocol So for the people who stuck with the kpu and came out the other side, can you now take zinc with no reaction?>> I totally agree with Thane's comments. My experience was the KPU was > difficult - though ultimately worth doing. The more zinc one attempts > to do, the more difficult the ride seems to become.> > I suspect that many people that report feeling worse on initial KPU > treatment are having a detox reaction / metal release / immune > awakening, not an actual worsening of their condition.> > Best,> >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5870 (20110213) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5870 (20110213) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5871 (20110213) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5871 (20110213) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Anne, are you taking 180mg of ELEMENTAL zinc per day? What does your bottle say? > > > > I totally agree with Thane's comments. My experience was the KPU was > > difficult - though ultimately worth doing. The more zinc one attempts > > to do, the more difficult the ride seems to become. > > > > I suspect that many people that report feeling worse on initial KPU > > treatment are having a detox reaction / metal release / immune > > awakening, not an actual worsening of their condition. > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5870 (20110213) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5870 (20110213) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5871 (20110213) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I am taking zinc (citrate) 30 mg/cap, a total of 6 caps/day. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of theskyking111Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:37 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: KPU protocol Anne, are you taking 180mg of ELEMENTAL zinc per day? What does your bottle say? > >> > I totally agree with Thane's comments. My experience was the KPU was > > difficult - though ultimately worth doing. The more zinc one attempts > > to do, the more difficult the ride seems to become.> > > > I suspect that many people that report feeling worse on initial KPU > > treatment are having a detox reaction / metal release / immune > > awakening, not an actual worsening of their condition.> > > > Best,> > > >> > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature> database 5870 (20110213) __________> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > http://www.eset.com> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature> database 5870 (20110213) __________> > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > http://www.eset.com> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature> database 5871 (20110213) __________> > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > http://www.eset.com>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5871 (20110213) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5871 (20110213) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5871 (20110213) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Yes, after you've gone through the detox phase, immune response phase, etc., you probably won't react negatively. The amounts of zinc being used area really not that high if you are doing something like the Core at 4 capsules a day (~40 mg elemental zinc). Klinghardt suggests 6-8 capsules of the Core initially and then 4 capsules for maintenance for an adult. The initial nausea effect with zinc also often goes away after a couple of months. -- In Better Health, @... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 If your bottle says 30mg and you are taking 6, that's likely 180 mg of elemental zinc which is quite high. It would likely provoke some of the heavy metal detox, etc. and make the ride a bit more difficult. It will also likely lead to the need for copper after a couple of months. I would personally not do that high of a dose without a good doctor ready to really help me with the almost certain need for heavy duty metal detox support. Be well, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 I have been taking that dose for almost 2 years now. I did experience some heavy metal detox in the first 2-4 months. I am also aware of the copper issue and have copper on hand to supplement as needed. I have to be careful with the copper, though, as it can also interfere with mitochondrial function; and mitochondrial function is a major issue for me right now. So I take copper when I feel like my body is wanting it. I have tried to decrease the dose, but experience negative effects when I do so. As a result, I have had to resume the high dose of zinc for right now. I also have a good team of doctors who are helping guide me through this journey. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of ForsgrenSent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:20 AMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: KPU protocol If your bottle says 30mg and you are taking 6, that's likely 180 mg of elemental zinc which is quite high. It would likely provoke some of the heavy metal detox, etc. and make the ride a bit more difficult. It will also likely lead to the need for copper after a couple of months. I would personally not do that high of a dose without a good doctor ready to really help me with the almost certain need for heavy duty metal detox support.Be well,__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5873 (20110214) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5873 (20110214) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5873 (20110214) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Has anyone had back luck with the Omega 6? My body seems to be tolerating all the other KPU supplements just fine but the Primrose Oil makes me tired, depressed and spacey. Should I push through this reaction or stop the stuff? > > I have been taking that dose for almost 2 years now. I did experience some > heavy metal detox in the first 2-4 months. I am also aware of the copper > issue and have copper on hand to supplement as needed. I have to be careful > with the copper, though, as it can also interfere with mitochondrial > function; and mitochondrial function is a major issue for me right now. So I > take copper when I feel like my body is wanting it. I have tried to > decrease the dose, but experience negative effects when I do so. As a > result, I have had to resume the high dose of zinc for right now. I also > have a good team of doctors who are helping guide me through this journey. > > > > Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RN > > mcfighter@... > > > > From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of > Forsgren > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:20 AM > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > Subject: Re: KPU protocol > > > > > > If your bottle says 30mg and you are taking 6, that's likely 180 mg of > elemental zinc which is quite high. It would likely provoke some of the > heavy metal detox, etc. and make the ride a bit more difficult. It will > also likely lead to the need for copper after a couple of months. I would > personally not do that high of a dose without a good doctor ready to really > help me with the almost certain need for heavy duty metal detox support. > > Be well, > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5873 (20110214) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5873 (20110214) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 The primrose oil may be overloading your mitochondrial function. Each body is different, so a single protocol is not going to work for everyone. If something makes you feel worse, it is probably best to avoid it, with the exception of a direct benefit such as antibiotics killing infectious organisms that spill toxins that increase discomfort. Primrose oil is to help, not kill. That is my opinion. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of theskyking111Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:37 AMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: KPU protocol Has anyone had back luck with the Omega 6? My body seems to be tolerating all the other KPU supplements just fine but the Primrose Oil makes me tired, depressed and spacey. Should I push through this reaction or stop the stuff? >> I have been taking that dose for almost 2 years now. I did experience some> heavy metal detox in the first 2-4 months. I am also aware of the copper> issue and have copper on hand to supplement as needed. I have to be careful> with the copper, though, as it can also interfere with mitochondrial> function; and mitochondrial function is a major issue for me right now. So I> take copper when I feel like my body is wanting it. I have tried to> decrease the dose, but experience negative effects when I do so. As a> result, I have had to resume the high dose of zinc for right now. I also> have a good team of doctors who are helping guide me through this journey.> > > > Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RN> > mcfighter@...> > > > From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of> Forsgren> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:20 AM> To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > Subject: Re: KPU protocol> > > > > > If your bottle says 30mg and you are taking 6, that's likely 180 mg of> elemental zinc which is quite high. It would likely provoke some of the> heavy metal detox, etc. and make the ride a bit more difficult. It will> also likely lead to the need for copper after a couple of months. I would> personally not do that high of a dose without a good doctor ready to really> help me with the almost certain need for heavy duty metal detox support.> > Be well,> > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature> database 5873 (20110214) __________> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > http://www.eset.com> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature> database 5873 (20110214) __________> > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > http://www.eset.com>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5873 (20110214) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5873 (20110214) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5873 (20110214) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 I take Bodybio brand of EPO several capsules a day. It really helps in reducing my carpal tunnel syndrome. Be sure to keep it refrigerated, even though it does not mention this on the label. The oil is oxidized fast and this might cause problems in some individuals. Another alternative is to use black current oil instead of EPO. They are both rich in GLA, which is required for the KPU protocol. Limin > Has anyone had back luck with the Omega 6? My body seems to be tolerating all the other KPU supplements just fine but the Primrose Oil makes me tired, depressed and spacey. Should I push through this reaction or stop the stuff? > > >> >> I have been taking that dose for almost 2 years now. I did experience some >> heavy metal detox in the first 2-4 months. I am also aware of the copper >> issue and have copper on hand to supplement as needed. I have to be careful >> with the copper, though, as it can also interfere with mitochondrial >> function; and mitochondrial function is a major issue for me right now. So I >> take copper when I feel like my body is wanting it. I have tried to >> decrease the dose, but experience negative effects when I do so. As a >> result, I have had to resume the high dose of zinc for right now. I also >> have a good team of doctors who are helping guide me through this journey. >> >> >> >> Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RN >> >> mcfighter@... >> >> >> >> From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >> [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of >> Forsgren >> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:20 AM >> To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >> Subject: Re: KPU protocol >> >> >> >> >> >> If your bottle says 30mg and you are taking 6, that's likely 180 mg of >> elemental zinc which is quite high. It would likely provoke some of the >> heavy metal detox, etc. and make the ride a bit more difficult. It will >> also likely lead to the need for copper after a couple of months. I would >> personally not do that high of a dose without a good doctor ready to really >> help me with the almost certain need for heavy duty metal detox support. >> >> Be well, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >> database 5873 (20110214) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >> database 5873 (20110214) __________ >> >> >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> >> >> http://www.eset.com >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 My son had bruises from the EPO due to its blood thinning effects. Dr K asked me to switch to ghee instead of EPO. Even though my son does not tolerate dairy, he was OK with ghee - its fat from the milk without (much) milk protein. Unfortunately, KPU protocol did nothing for my son. Shanthi To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 10:37:25 AMSubject: Re: KPU protocol Has anyone had back luck with the Omega 6? My body seems to be tolerating all the other KPU supplements just fine but the Primrose Oil makes me tired, depressed and spacey. Should I push through this reaction or stop the stuff? >> I have been taking that dose for almost 2 years now. I did experience some> heavy metal detox in the first 2-4 months. I am also aware of the copper> issue and have copper on hand to supplement as needed. I have to be careful> with the copper, though, as it can also interfere with mitochondrial> function; and mitochondrial function is a major issue for me right now. So I> take copper when I feel like my body is wanting it. I have tried to> decrease the dose, but experience negative effects when I do so. As a> result, I have had to resume the high dose of zinc for right now. I also> have a good team of doctors who are helping guide me through this journey.> > > > Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RN> > mcfighter@...> > > > From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of> Forsgren> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:20 AM> To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > Subject: Re: KPU protocol> > > > > > If your bottle says 30mg and you are taking 6, that's likely 180 mg of> elemental zinc which is quite high. It would likely provoke some of the> heavy metal detox, etc. and make the ride a bit more difficult. It will> also likely lead to the need for copper after a couple of months. I would> personally not do that high of a dose without a good doctor ready to really> help me with the almost certain need for heavy duty metal detox support.> > Be well,> > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature> database 5873 (20110214) __________> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > http://www.eset.com> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature> database 5873 (20110214) __________> > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > http://www.eset.com> Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debatein the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink Q&A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 , Usually when something gives me a negative reaction shortly after taking it I assume it wasn't a detox reaction or a herx because it happened too soon. Maybe you're allergic to it.. Thane > > > > I have been taking that dose for almost 2 years now. I did experience some > > heavy metal detox in the first 2-4 months. I am also aware of the copper > > issue and have copper on hand to supplement as needed. I have to be careful > > with the copper, though, as it can also interfere with mitochondrial > > function; and mitochondrial function is a major issue for me right now. So I > > take copper when I feel like my body is wanting it. I have tried to > > decrease the dose, but experience negative effects when I do so. As a > > result, I have had to resume the high dose of zinc for right now. I also > > have a good team of doctors who are helping guide me through this journey. > > > > > > > > Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RN > > > > mcfighter@ > > > > > > > > From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of > > Forsgren > > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:20 AM > > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > Subject: Re: KPU protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > If your bottle says 30mg and you are taking 6, that's likely 180 mg of > > elemental zinc which is quite high. It would likely provoke some of the > > heavy metal detox, etc. and make the ride a bit more difficult. It will > > also likely lead to the need for copper after a couple of months. I would > > personally not do that high of a dose without a good doctor ready to really > > help me with the almost certain need for heavy duty metal detox support. > > > > Be well, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > > database 5873 (20110214) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > > database 5873 (20110214) __________ > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 what brand is it??? could be something in it From: olga.antonello Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 4:43 PM To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: KPU protocol I have had the same experience with Primrose oil, only a few minutes after taking it I feel very tired, like going to bed straight away and my eye lids feel very heavy, I think I will reduce the dose and if I still continue having the same symptoms I will give it a break.Olga> >> > I have been taking that dose for almost 2 years now. I did experience some> > heavy metal detox in the first 2-4 months. I am also aware of the copper> > issue and have copper on hand to supplement as needed. I have to be careful> > with the copper, though, as it can also interfere with mitochondrial> > function; and mitochondrial function is a major issue for me right now. So I> > take copper when I feel like my body is wanting it. I have tried to> > decrease the dose, but experience negative effects when I do so. As a> > result, I have had to resume the high dose of zinc for right now. I also> > have a good team of doctors who are helping guide me through this journey.> > > > > > > > Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RN> > > > mcfighter@> > > > > > > > From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of> > Forsgren> > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:20 AM> > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > Subject: Re: KPU protocol> > > > > > > > > > > > If your bottle says 30mg and you are taking 6, that's likely 180 mg of> > elemental zinc which is quite high. It would likely provoke some of the> > heavy metal detox, etc. and make the ride a bit more difficult. It will> > also likely lead to the need for copper after a couple of months. I would> > personally not do that high of a dose without a good doctor ready to really> > help me with the almost certain need for heavy duty metal detox support.> > > > Be well,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature> > database 5873 (20110214) __________> > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > http://www.eset.com> > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature> > database 5873 (20110214) __________> > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Pure Encapsulation. Olga > > > > > > I have been taking that dose for almost 2 years now. I did experience some > > > heavy metal detox in the first 2-4 months. I am also aware of the copper > > > issue and have copper on hand to supplement as needed. I have to be careful > > > with the copper, though, as it can also interfere with mitochondrial > > > function; and mitochondrial function is a major issue for me right now. So I > > > take copper when I feel like my body is wanting it. I have tried to > > > decrease the dose, but experience negative effects when I do so. As a > > > result, I have had to resume the high dose of zinc for right now. I also > > > have a good team of doctors who are helping guide me through this journey. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RN > > > > > > mcfighter@ > > > > > > > > > > > > From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > > [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of > > > Forsgren > > > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:20 AM > > > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > > Subject: Re: KPU protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If your bottle says 30mg and you are taking 6, that's likely 180 mg of > > > elemental zinc which is quite high. It would likely provoke some of the > > > heavy metal detox, etc. and make the ride a bit more difficult. It will > > > also likely lead to the need for copper after a couple of months. I would > > > personally not do that high of a dose without a good doctor ready to really > > > help me with the almost certain need for heavy duty metal detox support. > > > > > > Be well, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > > > database 5873 (20110214) __________ > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > > > database 5873 (20110214) __________ > > > > > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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