Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 What is a good dose to give for die-offs? I am currently on 2 caps activated charcoal one time per day.FranselFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:27:52 +0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections Thanks Limin.FranselSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:20:17 -0800To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections No, Fransel, my son takes one capsule of B Complex that contains 20 mg B6 in the morning and one capsule of 30 mg P5P at bedtime. Both are made by Klaire Labs.LiminWhen you take out B6 did you mean Supernuthera?FranselSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:43:32 -0800To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections,My son is still on maintenance dosage of KPU protocol. We have been doing the whole swing of the protocol, but do not use The Core, because I want to have the flexibility of adjusting the dosage of individual vitamins and minerals used for the protocol. I started him with 30 mg of Zinc and gradually built up to 180 mg and stayed on this dosage for 4 months. His excessive "gibberish" really got cleaned up and had very good improvements in his intonation and articulation. Finally family members and outsiders could understand what he was talking. I also detoxified him with Phospholipids Exchange, which contains EDTA, and supported his detox with chlorella tablets and Modifilan. By the end of 4 months, I started observing signs of zinc toxicity. He was pale and had bleeding lips and facial discoloration (white patches on his cheeks), and fatigue -- signs of copper deficiency induced by high zinc intake. I gradually reduced zinc to 30 mg - this is his current dosage. Once I dropped zinc dosage, all these side effects subsided. Other supplements we used for this protocol are evening primrose oil, vitamin E, moderate dose of P-5-P, NADH injection, biotin, magnesium, chromium, molybdenum, lithium orotate, iodine (from Modifilan), and silica (from Micro Plant Power). I am searching for a brand of boron to add this in. The dosage of minerals is mostly based upon his urine, blood, and hair mineral status. I give him manganese on and off and not consistently, as his levels of manganese are always good. He also takes selenium (not part of the KPU protocol though). Biotin and selenium together keep yeast from flare-up or turning into the fungal form. In my son's case, yeast flare-up is common, when metals start to mobilize. My son takes 8 mg Biotin 3X with meals. When we ran out of Biotin, his inappropriate giggling and laughing would return. I give taurine and L-carnitine with a fatty meal. Taurine helps in bile production; B6 helps in bile suspension to enhance bile flow. Together these help the liver to filter fat soluble toxins by putting them in the bile for excretion. One needs to eat good quality fats in order to detoxify fat-soluble toxins. L-carnitine (though not part of the KPU protocol) helps to carry fatty acids into the cells.The dosage of B6/P5P is very individual-depending. My son took 30 mg of P5P at bed time back then. He is now able to tolerate 50 mg. Treating for chronic Strep infection (Zithromax) seems to have increased his tolerance for B6 and P5P. Yasko believes that high dose B6 can cause more overstimulatory or OCD type behaviors. B6 is a cofactor in kynurenines to quinolinic acid conversion. Quinolinic acid is an excitotoxin and can further aggravate the nervous system. Chronic Strep and/or Lyme infected individuals might already have high levels of quinolinic acid. Taking high dose B6 is adding oil onto the fire. B6 also stimulates the transsulfuration pathway, by doing so it potentially increases the production of the byproducts of this pathway: ammonia and sulfite. We use molybdenum to detoxify sulfite, and BH4 to detoxify ammonia. Hope this helps.Limin> Limin, did you take your child off the kpu protocol after 4 months? If so why, when it was helping him? Did the expressive language become a permanant improvement? Did he do the other kpu nutrients or just zinc?> > > > >>> >>>> I do weekly injections of DMPS and i was wondering if I took my The Core minerals at the same time as i inject DMPS if the DMPS would bind to lots more minerals in my system than metals... Would I be better off waiting to take my minerals for a few hours after taking DMPS? Thoughts? Thx, Thane>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------>>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Is lyme disease contagious?FranselFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:42:00 +0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose What is a good dose to give for die-offs? I am currently on 2 caps activated charcoal one time per day.FranselFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:27:52 +0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections Thanks Limin.FranselSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:20:17 -0800To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections No, Fransel, my son takes one capsule of B Complex that contains 20 mg B6 in the morning and one capsule of 30 mg P5P at bedtime. Both are made by Klaire Labs.LiminWhen you take out B6 did you mean Supernuthera?FranselSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:43:32 -0800To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections,My son is still on maintenance dosage of KPU protocol. We have been doing the whole swing of the protocol, but do not use The Core, because I want to have the flexibility of adjusting the dosage of individual vitamins and minerals used for the protocol. I started him with 30 mg of Zinc and gradually built up to 180 mg and stayed on this dosage for 4 months. His excessive "gibberish" really got cleaned up and had very good improvements in his intonation and articulation. Finally family members and outsiders could understand what he was talking. I also detoxified him with Phospholipids Exchange, which contains EDTA, and supported his detox with chlorella tablets and Modifilan. By the end of 4 months, I started observing signs of zinc toxicity. He was pale and had bleeding lips and facial discoloration (white patches on his cheeks), and fatigue -- signs of copper deficiency induced by high zinc intake. I gradually reduced zinc to 30 mg - this is his current dosage. Once I dropped zinc dosage, all these side effects subsided. Other supplements we used for this protocol are evening primrose oil, vitamin E, moderate dose of P-5-P, NADH injection, biotin, magnesium, chromium, molybdenum, lithium orotate, iodine (from Modifilan), and silica (from Micro Plant Power). I am searching for a brand of boron to add this in. The dosage of minerals is mostly based upon his urine, blood, and hair mineral status. I give him manganese on and off and not consistently, as his levels of manganese are always good. He also takes selenium (not part of the KPU protocol though). Biotin and selenium together keep yeast from flare-up or turning into the fungal form. In my son's case, yeast flare-up is common, when metals start to mobilize. My son takes 8 mg Biotin 3X with meals. When we ran out of Biotin, his inappropriate giggling and laughing would return. I give taurine and L-carnitine with a fatty meal. Taurine helps in bile production; B6 helps in bile suspension to enhance bile flow. Together these help the liver to filter fat soluble toxins by putting them in the bile for excretion. One needs to eat good quality fats in order to detoxify fat-soluble toxins. L-carnitine (though not part of the KPU protocol) helps to carry fatty acids into the cells.The dosage of B6/P5P is very individual-depending. My son took 30 mg of P5P at bed time back then. He is now able to tolerate 50 mg. Treating for chronic Strep infection (Zithromax) seems to have increased his tolerance for B6 and P5P. Yasko believes that high dose B6 can cause more overstimulatory or OCD type behaviors. B6 is a cofactor in kynurenines to quinolinic acid conversion. Quinolinic acid is an excitotoxin and can further aggravate the nervous system. Chronic Strep and/or Lyme infected individuals might already have high levels of quinolinic acid. Taking high dose B6 is adding oil onto the fire. B6 also stimulates the transsulfuration pathway, by doing so it potentially increases the production of the byproducts of this pathway: ammonia and sulfite. We use molybdenum to detoxify sulfite, and BH4 to detoxify ammonia. Hope this helps.Limin> Limin, did you take your child off the kpu protocol after 4 months? If so why, when it was helping him? Did the expressive language become a permanant improvement? Did he do the other kpu nutrients or just zinc?> > > > >>> >>>> I do weekly injections of DMPS and i was wondering if I took my The Core minerals at the same time as i inject DMPS if the DMPS would bind to lots more minerals in my system than metals... Would I be better off waiting to take my minerals for a few hours after taking DMPS? Thoughts? Thx, Thane>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------>>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 My LLMD thinks I gave my Lyme to my son, through the placenta.According to his symptoms. Tammy F. Is lyme disease contagious? Fransel From: franselw@... Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:42:00 +0000 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose What is a good dose to give for die-offs? I am currently on 2 caps activated charcoal one time per day. Fransel From: franselw@... Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:27:52 +0000 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections Thanks Limin. Fransel From: "Limin Tseng" Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:20:17 -0800 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections No, Fransel, my son takes one capsule of B Complex that contains 20 mg B6 in the morning and one capsule of 30 mg P5P at bedtime. Both are made by Klaire Labs. Limin On Feb 14, 2011, at 08:03 PM, franselw@... wrote: When you take out B6 did you mean Supernuthera? Fransel From: "Limin Tseng" Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:43:32 -0800 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections , My son is still on maintenance dosage of KPU protocol. We have been doing the whole swing of the protocol, but do not use The Core, because I want to have the flexibility of adjusting the dosage of individual vitamins and minerals used for the protocol. I started him with 30 mg of Zinc and gradually built up to 180 mg and stayed on this dosage for 4 months. His excessive "gibberish" really got cleaned up and had very good improvements in his intonation and articulation. Finally family members and outsiders could understand what he was talking. I also detoxified him with Phospholipids Exchange, which contains EDTA, and supported his detox with chlorella tablets and Modifilan. By the end of 4 months, I started observing signs of zinc toxicity. He was pale and had bleeding lips and facial discoloration (white patches on his cheeks), and fatigue -- signs of copper deficiency induced by high zinc intake. I gradually reduced zinc to 30 mg - this is his current dosage. Once I dropped zinc dosage, all these side effects subsided. Other supplements we used for this protocol are evening primrose oil, vitamin E, moderate dose of P-5-P, NADH injection, biotin, magnesium, chromium, molybdenum, lithium orotate, iodine (from Modifilan), and silica (from Micro Plant Power). I am searching for a brand of boron to add this in. The dosage of minerals is mostly based upon his urine, blood, and hair mineral status. I give him manganese on and off and not consistently, as his levels of manganese are always good. He also takes selenium (not part of the KPU protocol though). Biotin and selenium together keep yeast from flare-up or turning into the fungal form. In my son's case, yeast flare-up is common, when metals start to mobilize. My son takes 8 mg Biotin 3X with meals. When we ran out of Biotin, his inappropriate giggling and laughing would return. I give taurine and L-carnitine with a fatty meal. Taurine helps in bile production; B6 helps in bile suspension to enhance bile flow. Together these help the liver to filter fat soluble toxins by putting them in the bile for excretion. One needs to eat good quality fats in order to detoxify fat-soluble toxins. L-carnitine (though not part of the KPU protocol) helps to carry fatty acids into the cells. The dosage of B6/P5P is very individual-depending. My son took 30 mg of P5P at bed time back then. He is now able to tolerate 50 mg. Treating for chronic Strep infection (Zithromax) seems to have increased his tolerance for B6 and P5P. Yasko believes that high dose B6 can cause more overstimulatory or OCD type behaviors. B6 is a cofactor in kynurenines to quinolinic acid conversion. Quinolinic acid is an excitotoxin and can further aggravate the nervous system. Chronic Strep and/or Lyme infected individuals might already have high levels of quinolinic acid. Taking high dose B6 is adding oil onto the fire. B6 also stimulates the transsulfuration pathway, by doing so it potentially increases the production of the byproducts of this pathway: ammonia and sulfite. We use molybdenum to detoxify sulfite, and BH4 to detoxify ammonia. Hope this helps. Limin On Feb 11, 2011, at 08:10 AM, theskyking111 wrote: > Limin, did you take your child off the kpu protocol after 4 months? If so why, when it was helping him? Did the expressive language become a permanant improvement? Did he do the other kpu nutrients or just zinc? > > > > >>> >>>> I do weekly injections of DMPS and i was wondering if I took my The Core minerals at the same time as i inject DMPS if the DMPS would bind to lots more minerals in my system than metals... Would I be better off waiting to take my minerals for a few hours after taking DMPS? Thoughts? Thx, Thane >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 My LLMD's nurse said lyme is transmittable thru body fluids like herpes when active. Does this mean we can't kiss our child with lyme when his saliva touches my cheeks?FranselSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:13:52 -0600To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose My LLMD thinks I gave my Lyme to my son, through theplacenta.According to his symptoms. Tammy F. Is lyme disease contagious?FranselFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:42:00 +0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose What is a good dose to give for die-offs? I am currentlyon 2 caps activated charcoal one time per day.FranselFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:27:52 +0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementingwith The Core when doing DMPS Injections Thanks Limin.FranselSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:20:17 -0800To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re:Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections No, Fransel, my son takes one capsule of BComplex that contains 20 mg B6 in the morning andone capsule of 30 mg P5P at bedtime. Both are madeby Klaire Labs.LiminOn Feb 14, 2011, at 08:03 PM, franselw@...wrote:When you take out B6 did you meanSupernuthera?FranselFrom: "LiminTseng" Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sat,12 Feb 2011 17:43:32 -0800To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re:Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPSInjections,My son is still on maintenance dosage ofKPU protocol. We have been doing the wholeswing of the protocol, but do not use TheCore, because I want to have theflexibility of adjusting the dosage ofindividual vitamins and minerals used forthe protocol. I started him with 30 mg of Zinc andgradually built up to 180 mg and stayed onthis dosage for 4 months. His excessive"gibberish" really got cleaned up and hadvery good improvements in his intonationand articulation. Finally family membersand outsiders could understand what he wastalking. I also detoxified him withPhospholipids Exchange, which containsEDTA, and supported his detox withchlorella tablets and Modifilan. By theend of 4 months, I started observing signsof zinc toxicity. He was pale and hadbleeding lips and facial discoloration(white patches on his cheeks), and fatigue-- signs of copper deficiency induced byhigh zinc intake. I gradually reduced zincto 30 mg - this is his current dosage.Once I dropped zinc dosage, all these sideeffects subsided. Other supplements we used for thisprotocol are evening primrose oil, vitaminE, moderate dose of P-5-P, NADH injection,biotin, magnesium, chromium, molybdenum,lithium orotate, iodine (from Modifilan),and silica (from Micro Plant Power). I amsearching for a brand of boron to add thisin. The dosage of minerals is mostly basedupon his urine, blood, and hair mineralstatus. I give him manganese on and offand not consistently, as his levels ofmanganese are always good. He also takesselenium (not part of the KPU protocolthough). Biotin and selenium together keepyeast from flare-up or turning into thefungal form. In my son's case, yeastflare-up is common, when metals start tomobilize. My son takes 8 mg Biotin 3X withmeals. When we ran out of Biotin, hisinappropriate giggling and laughing wouldreturn. I give taurine and L-carnitine with afatty meal. Taurine helps in bileproduction; B6 helps in bile suspension toenhance bile flow. Together these help theliver to filter fat soluble toxins byputting them in the bile for excretion.One needs to eat good quality fats inorder to detoxify fat-soluble toxins.L-carnitine (though not part of the KPUprotocol) helps to carry fatty acids intothe cells.The dosage of B6/P5P is veryindividual-depending. My son took 30 mg ofP5P at bed time back then. He is now ableto tolerate 50 mg. Treating for chronicStrep infection (Zithromax) seems to haveincreased his tolerance for B6 and P5P.Yasko believes that high dose B6 can causemore overstimulatory or OCD typebehaviors. B6 is a cofactor in kynureninesto quinolinic acid conversion. Quinolinicacid is an excitotoxin and can furtheraggravate the nervous system. ChronicStrep and/or Lyme infected individualsmight already have high levels ofquinolinic acid. Taking high dose B6 isadding oil onto the fire. B6 alsostimulates the transsulfuration pathway,by doing so it potentially increases theproduction of the byproducts of thispathway: ammonia and sulfite. We usemolybdenum to detoxify sulfite, and BH4 todetoxify ammonia. Hope this helps.Limin> Limin, did you take your child offthe kpu protocol after 4 months? If sowhy, when it was helping him? Did theexpressive language become a permanantimprovement? Did he do the other kpunutrients or just zinc?> > > > >>> >>>> I do weekly injections ofDMPS and i was wondering if I took my TheCore minerals at the same time as i injectDMPS if the DMPS would bind to lots moreminerals in my system than metals... WouldI be better off waiting to take myminerals for a few hours after takingDMPS? Thoughts? Thx, Thane>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------------>>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 There have been spirochetes found in saliva, but the chance of contracting Lyme through a kiss is small. Tick saliva has a compound that aids the spirochetes in establishing a foothold in the new body. Human saliva is missing this component. In one study on the effectiveness of tick saliva, the mice injected with both spirochetes and tick saliva had a 100 fold increase in the number of spirochetes compared with the number of spirochetes found in the mice that had been injected with just the spirochetes without the tick saliva. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of franselw@...Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:30 AMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose My LLMD's nurse said lyme is transmittable thru body fluids like herpes when active. Does this mean we can't kiss our child with lyme when his saliva touches my cheeks?Fransel Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:13:52 -0600To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose My LLMD thinks I gave my Lyme to my son, through the placenta.According to his symptoms. Tammy F. Is lyme disease contagious?FranselFrom: franselw@... Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:42:00 +0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose What is a good dose to give for die-offs? I am currently on 2 caps activated charcoal one time per day.FranselFrom: franselw@... Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:27:52 +0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections Thanks Limin.Fransel Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:20:17 -0800To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections No, Fransel, my son takes one capsule of B Complex that contains 20 mg B6 in the morning and one capsule of 30 mg P5P at bedtime. Both are made by Klaire Labs. Limin When you take out B6 did you mean Supernuthera? FranselSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:43:32 -0800To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections ,My son is still on maintenance dosage of KPU protocol. We have been doing the whole swing of the protocol, but do not use The Core, because I want to have the flexibility of adjusting the dosage of individual vitamins and minerals used for the protocol. I started him with 30 mg of Zinc and gradually built up to 180 mg and stayed on this dosage for 4 months. His excessive " gibberish " really got cleaned up and had very good improvements in his intonation and articulation. Finally family members and outsiders could understand what he was talking. I also detoxified him with Phospholipids Exchange, which contains EDTA, and supported his detox with chlorella tablets and Modifilan. By the end of 4 months, I started observing signs of zinc toxicity. He was pale and had bleeding lips and facial discoloration (white patches on his cheeks), and fatigue -- signs of copper deficiency induced by high zinc intake. I gradually reduced zinc to 30 mg - this is his current dosage. Once I dropped zinc dosage, all these side effects subsided. Other supplements we used for this protocol are evening primrose oil, vitamin E, moderate dose of P-5-P, NADH injection, biotin, magnesium, chromium, molybdenum, lithium orotate, iodine (from Modifilan), and silica (from Micro Plant Power). I am searching for a brand of boron to add this in. The dosage of minerals is mostly based upon his urine, blood, and hair mineral status. I give him manganese on and off and not consistently, as his levels of manganese are always good. He also takes selenium (not part of the KPU protocol though). Biotin and selenium together keep yeast from flare-up or turning into the fungal form. In my son's case, yeast flare-up is common, when metals start to mobilize. My son takes 8 mg Biotin 3X with meals. When we ran out of Biotin, his inappropriate giggling and laughing would return. I give taurine and L-carnitine with a fatty meal. Taurine helps in bile production; B6 helps in bile suspension to enhance bile flow. Together these help the liver to filter fat soluble toxins by putting them in the bile for excretion. One needs to eat good quality fats in order to detoxify fat-soluble toxins. L-carnitine (though not part of the KPU protocol) helps to carry fatty acids into the cells.The dosage of B6/P5P is very individual-depending. My son took 30 mg of P5P at bed time back then. He is now able to tolerate 50 mg. Treating for chronic Strep infection (Zithromax) seems to have increased his tolerance for B6 and P5P. Yasko believes that high dose B6 can cause more overstimulatory or OCD type behaviors. B6 is a cofactor in kynurenines to quinolinic acid conversion. Quinolinic acid is an excitotoxin and can further aggravate the nervous system. Chronic Strep and/or Lyme infected individuals might already have high levels of quinolinic acid. Taking high dose B6 is adding oil onto the fire. B6 also stimulates the transsulfuration pathway, by doing so it potentially increases the production of the byproducts of this pathway: ammonia and sulfite. We use molybdenum to detoxify sulfite, and BH4 to detoxify ammonia. Hope this helps.Limin> Limin, did you take your child off the kpu protocol after 4 months? If so why, when it was helping him? Did the expressive language become a permanant improvement? Did he do the other kpu nutrients or just zinc?> > > > >>> >>>> I do weekly injections of DMPS and i was wondering if I took my The Core minerals at the same time as i inject DMPS if the DMPS would bind to lots more minerals in my system than metals... Would I be better off waiting to take my minerals for a few hours after taking DMPS? Thoughts? Thx, Thane>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------>>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 it can be passed from mother to child and I am reading where it can even be trasmitted sexually which is a new one to me From: franselw@... Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 10:58 PM To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose Is lyme disease contagious? Fransel From: franselw@... Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:42:00 +0000 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose What is a good dose to give for die-offs? I am currently on 2 caps activated charcoal one time per day. Fransel From: franselw@... Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:27:52 +0000 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections Thanks Limin. Fransel Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:20:17 -0800 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections No, Fransel, my son takes one capsule of B Complex that contains 20 mg B6 in the morning and one capsule of 30 mg P5P at bedtime. Both are made by Klaire Labs. Limin When you take out B6 did you mean Supernuthera? Fransel Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:43:32 -0800 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections ,My son is still on maintenance dosage of KPU protocol. We have been doing the whole swing of the protocol, but do not use The Core, because I want to have the flexibility of adjusting the dosage of individual vitamins and minerals used for the protocol. I started him with 30 mg of Zinc and gradually built up to 180 mg and stayed on this dosage for 4 months. His excessive "gibberish" really got cleaned up and had very good improvements in his intonation and articulation. Finally family members and outsiders could understand what he was talking. I also detoxified him with Phospholipids Exchange, which contains EDTA, and supported his detox with chlorella tablets and Modifilan. By the end of 4 months, I started observing signs of zinc toxicity. He was pale and had bleeding lips and facial discoloration (white patches on his cheeks), and fatigue -- signs of copper deficiency induced by high zinc intake. I gradually reduced zinc to 30 mg - this is his current dosage. Once I dropped zinc dosage, all these side effects subsided. Other supplements we used for this protocol are evening primrose oil, vitamin E, moderate dose of P-5-P, NADH injection, biotin, magnesium, chromium, molybdenum, lithium orotate, iodine (from Modifilan), and silica (from Micro Plant Power). I am searching for a brand of boron to add this in. The dosage of minerals is mostly based upon his urine, blood, and hair mineral status. I give him manganese on and off and not consistently, as his levels of manganese are always good. He also takes selenium (not part of the KPU protocol though). Biotin and selenium together keep yeast from flare-up or turning into the fungal form. In my son's case, yeast flare-up is common, when metals start to mobilize. My son takes 8 mg Biotin 3X with meals. When we ran out of Biotin, his inappropriate giggling and laughing would return. I give taurine and L-carnitine with a fatty meal. Taurine helps in bile production; B6 helps in bile suspension to enhance bile flow. Together these help the liver to filter fat soluble toxins by putting them in the bile for excretion. One needs to eat good quality fats in order to detoxify fat-soluble toxins. L-carnitine (though not part of the KPU protocol) helps to carry fatty acids into the cells.The dosage of B6/P5P is very individual-depending. My son took 30 mg of P5P at bed time back then. He is now able to tolerate 50 mg. Treating for chronic Strep infection (Zithromax) seems to have increased his tolerance for B6 and P5P. Yasko believes that high dose B6 can cause more overstimulatory or OCD type behaviors. B6 is a cofactor in kynurenines to quinolinic acid conversion. Quinolinic acid is an excitotoxin and can further aggravate the nervous system. Chronic Strep and/or Lyme infected individuals might already have high levels of quinolinic acid. Taking high dose B6 is adding oil onto the fire. B6 also stimulates the transsulfuration pathway, by doing so it potentially increases the production of the byproducts of this pathway: ammonia and sulfite. We use molybdenum to detoxify sulfite, and BH4 to detoxify ammonia. Hope this helps.Limin> Limin, did you take your child off the kpu protocol after 4 months? If so why, when it was helping him? Did the expressive language become a permanant improvement? Did he do the other kpu nutrients or just zinc?> > > > >>> >>>> I do weekly injections of DMPS and i was wondering if I took my The Core minerals at the same time as i inject DMPS if the DMPS would bind to lots more minerals in my system than metals... Would I be better off waiting to take my minerals for a few hours after taking DMPS? Thoughts? Thx, Thane>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------>>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Unfortunately, there are many different opinions on this. I think mainstream medical says that it's not transmittable unless bit by an infected tick, yet there are mainstream reports that it is transmittable via pregnancy and other biting vectors (insects, etc.). Somehow those reports appear to get treated as if they don't exist. The alternate Lyme community says it's transmissible via sex, pregnancy, can lay dormant forever or not, etc. It is found in urine and other body fluids. Reportedly, it does not grow outside of the body, but it is possible that it can lay dormant and then grow when it finds a host. So, truthfully, there is no agreed upon answer here. There are many reports that say most people who get diagnosed with Lyme have no memory of getting a tick bite. It is not known whether the tick was too small to notice or if they got it from another person or even a contaminated food or medicine. There are many theories. What is known is that many are testing positive who appear healthy. So, being a carrier of the Lyme pathogen appears to be the lesser problem. The greater problem is making sure your immune system keeps it at bay. With the extra immune stressors we have today, we need to be aware of them and minimize them to keep our immune systems healthy enough to stay strong. It's not just Lyme we need to be wary of, but also cancer, diabetes, etc. So, it's about living healthy and doing extra things to rebuild our immune systems. In my opinion, being a Lyme carrier does put us at higher risk of not handling immune stressors. If you Google, you will find several reports that some scientists and doctors feel that half the population is already a carrier. Love and prayers, Heidi N Is lyme disease contagious? Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 it would be more then just the placenta. when you are pregnant you share blood! and its IN the blood. that umbilitcal cord carries it back and forth From: franselw@... Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:29 AM To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose My LLMD's nurse said lyme is transmittable thru body fluids like herpes when active. Does this mean we can't kiss our child with lyme when his saliva touches my cheeks? Fransel Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:13:52 -0600 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose My LLMD thinks I gave my Lyme to my son, through the placenta.According to his symptoms. Tammy F. Is lyme disease contagious? Fransel From: franselw@... Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:42:00 +0000 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose What is a good dose to give for die-offs? I am currently on 2 caps activated charcoal one time per day. Fransel From: franselw@... Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:27:52 +0000 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections Thanks Limin. Fransel Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:20:17 -0800 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections No, Fransel, my son takes one capsule of B Complex that contains 20 mg B6 in the morning and one capsule of 30 mg P5P at bedtime. Both are made by Klaire Labs. Limin When you take out B6 did you mean Supernuthera? Fransel Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:43:32 -0800 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections ,My son is still on maintenance dosage of KPU protocol. We have been doing the whole swing of the protocol, but do not use The Core, because I want to have the flexibility of adjusting the dosage of individual vitamins and minerals used for the protocol. I started him with 30 mg of Zinc and gradually built up to 180 mg and stayed on this dosage for 4 months. His excessive "gibberish" really got cleaned up and had very good improvements in his intonation and articulation. Finally family members and outsiders could understand what he was talking. I also detoxified him with Phospholipids Exchange, which contains EDTA, and supported his detox with chlorella tablets and Modifilan. By the end of 4 months, I started observing signs of zinc toxicity. He was pale and had bleeding lips and facial discoloration (white patches on his cheeks), and fatigue -- signs of copper deficiency induced by high zinc intake. I gradually reduced zinc to 30 mg - this is his current dosage. Once I dropped zinc dosage, all these side effects subsided. Other supplements we used for this protocol are evening primrose oil, vitamin E, moderate dose of P-5-P, NADH injection, biotin, magnesium, chromium, molybdenum, lithium orotate, iodine (from Modifilan), and silica (from Micro Plant Power). I am searching for a brand of boron to add this in. The dosage of minerals is mostly based upon his urine, blood, and hair mineral status. I give him manganese on and off and not consistently, as his levels of manganese are always good. He also takes selenium (not part of the KPU protocol though). Biotin and selenium together keep yeast from flare-up or turning into the fungal form. In my son's case, yeast flare-up is common, when metals start to mobilize. My son takes 8 mg Biotin 3X with meals. When we ran out of Biotin, his inappropriate giggling and laughing would return. I give taurine and L-carnitine with a fatty meal. Taurine helps in bile production; B6 helps in bile suspension to enhance bile flow. Together these help the liver to filter fat soluble toxins by putting them in the bile for excretion. One needs to eat good quality fats in order to detoxify fat-soluble toxins. L-carnitine (though not part of the KPU protocol) helps to carry fatty acids into the cells.The dosage of B6/P5P is very individual-depending. My son took 30 mg of P5P at bed time back then. He is now able to tolerate 50 mg. Treating for chronic Strep infection (Zithromax) seems to have increased his tolerance for B6 and P5P. Yasko believes that high dose B6 can cause more overstimulatory or OCD type behaviors. B6 is a cofactor in kynurenines to quinolinic acid conversion. Quinolinic acid is an excitotoxin and can further aggravate the nervous system. Chronic Strep and/or Lyme infected individuals might already have high levels of quinolinic acid. Taking high dose B6 is adding oil onto the fire. B6 also stimulates the transsulfuration pathway, by doing so it potentially increases the production of the byproducts of this pathway: ammonia and sulfite. We use molybdenum to detoxify sulfite, and BH4 to detoxify ammonia. Hope this helps.Limin> Limin, did you take your child off the kpu protocol after 4 months? If so why, when it was helping him? Did the expressive language become a permanant improvement? Did he do the other kpu nutrients or just zinc?> > > > >>> >>>> I do weekly injections of DMPS and i was wondering if I took my The Core minerals at the same time as i inject DMPS if the DMPS would bind to lots more minerals in my system than metals... Would I be better off waiting to take my minerals for a few hours after taking DMPS? Thoughts? Thx, Thane>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------>>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Yes,that makes sense. Tammy F. it would be more then just the placenta. when you are pregnant you share blood! and its IN the blood. that umbilitcal cord carries it back and forth From: franselw@... Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:29 AM To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose My LLMD's nurse said lyme is transmittable thru body fluids like herpes when active. Does this mean we can't kiss our child with lyme when his saliva touches my cheeks? Fransel Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:13:52 -0600 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose My LLMD thinks I gave my Lyme to my son, through the placenta.According to his symptoms. Tammy F. Is lyme disease contagious? Fransel From: franselw@... Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:42:00 +0000 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Charcoal Dose What is a good dose to give for die-offs? I am currently on 2 caps activated charcoal one time per day. Fransel From: franselw@... Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:27:52 +0000 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections Thanks Limin. Fransel Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:20:17 -0800 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections No, Fransel, my son takes one capsule of B Complex that contains 20 mg B6 in the morning and one capsule of 30 mg P5P at bedtime. Both are made by Klaire Labs. Limin On Feb 14, 2011, at 08:03 PM, franselw@... wrote: When you take out B6 did you mean Supernuthera? Fransel From: "Limin Tseng" Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:43:32 -0800 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections , My son is still on maintenance dosage of KPU protocol. We have been doing the whole swing of the protocol, but do not use The Core, because I want to have the flexibility of adjusting the dosage of individual vitamins and minerals used for the protocol. I started him with 30 mg of Zinc and gradually built up to 180 mg and stayed on this dosage for 4 months. His excessive "gibberish" really got cleaned up and had very good improvements in his intonation and articulation. Finally family members and outsiders could understand what he was talking. I also detoxified him with Phospholipids Exchange, which contains EDTA, and supported his detox with chlorella tablets and Modifilan. By the end of 4 months, I started observing signs of zinc toxicity. He was pale and had bleeding lips and facial discoloration (white patches on his cheeks), and fatigue -- signs of copper deficiency induced by high zinc intake. I gradually reduced zinc to 30 mg - this is his current dosage. Once I dropped zinc dosage, all these side effects subsided. Other supplements we used for this protocol are evening primrose oil, vitamin E, moderate dose of P-5-P, NADH injection, biotin, magnesium, chromium, molybdenum, lithium orotate, iodine (from Modifilan), and silica (from Micro Plant Power). I am searching for a brand of boron to add this in. The dosage of minerals is mostly based upon his urine, blood, and hair mineral status. I give him manganese on and off and not consistently, as his levels of manganese are always good. He also takes selenium (not part of the KPU protocol though). Biotin and selenium together keep yeast from flare-up or turning into the fungal form. In my son's case, yeast flare-up is common, when metals start to mobilize. My son takes 8 mg Biotin 3X with meals. When we ran out of Biotin, his inappropriate giggling and laughing would return. I give taurine and L-carnitine with a fatty meal. Taurine helps in bile production; B6 helps in bile suspension to enhance bile flow. Together these help the liver to filter fat soluble toxins by putting them in the bile for excretion. One needs to eat good quality fats in order to detoxify fat-soluble toxins. L-carnitine (though not part of the KPU protocol) helps to carry fatty acids into the cells. The dosage of B6/P5P is very individual-depending. My son took 30 mg of P5P at bed time back then. He is now able to tolerate 50 mg. Treating for chronic Strep infection (Zithromax) seems to have increased his tolerance for B6 and P5P. Yasko believes that high dose B6 can cause more overstimulatory or OCD type behaviors. B6 is a cofactor in kynurenines to quinolinic acid conversion. Quinolinic acid is an excitotoxin and can further aggravate the nervous system. Chronic Strep and/or Lyme infected individuals might already have high levels of quinolinic acid. Taking high dose B6 is adding oil onto the fire. B6 also stimulates the transsulfuration pathway, by doing so it potentially increases the production of the byproducts of this pathway: ammonia and sulfite. We use molybdenum to detoxify sulfite, and BH4 to detoxify ammonia. Hope this helps. Limin On Feb 11, 2011, at 08:10 AM, theskyking111 wrote: > Limin, did you take your child off the kpu protocol after 4 months? If so why, when it was helping him? Did the expressive language become a permanant improvement? Did he do the other kpu nutrients or just zinc? > > > > >>> >>>> I do weekly injections of DMPS and i was wondering if I took my The Core minerals at the same time as i inject DMPS if the DMPS would bind to lots more minerals in my system than metals... Would I be better off waiting to take my minerals for a few hours after taking DMPS? Thoughts? Thx, Thane >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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