Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Isa, I am glad to hear that somebody from this group is using the Panavir, because I have been reading and researching lately a lot about this anti-viral product and actually this is going to be one of my questions to Dr. K who we will see soon for my son – if he thinks this would be good product for my son (he sounds a lot like your son). I have few friends from Europe who speak very highly of this product and told me that their kids are doing very very good after treating them with it. By the way, although not speaking from my personal experience, all of them said that their kids initially regressed and then got better, so it is good to know that, hopefully soon you will see lots of more positives. Please keep us updated how your son is doing and any more improvements or setbacks. Are you giving him the injections form? Thanks, Krassi > > Olga > I also want to join in on the happy congratulations, you are inspiring. I can only close my eyes and push forward.... My son is not doing well, he has some kind of strange regression- more intelligence combination in his behavior right now. We are on week 6 of treating herpes virus (with www.panavir.com) and while he seems so very much intelligent in some areas, he is having more tantrums, having pipi accidents and not complying w school work. The MD says this is all temporary, that the pipi accidents come from lots of detox taking place. On the bright side, he is babbling much more, saying " water " and " gimme " (actually his first words in 4 years), finding his way out of situations much more easy, achieving his desires w/o much difficulty. He also looks w less inflammation, his tummy has lessened a lot and his head doesn't look bulky..... Though l am happy to see this things, l am also scared to see the others... I think l have to hold on, what do you think? I pray my kiddo will come forward like yours Olga, our kids deserve a better health. > Hugs > Isa > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Limin, I am not sure if it is available here in US. So far all my info about this product has been coming from Europe and all has been only positive. Having said that I have relatives who would be travelling to here after approximately 2 months, so if Dr. K approves it for us I will buy it from there. Let me know if you are interested. Krassi > >> > >> Olga > >> I also want to join in on the happy congratulations, you are inspiring. I can only close my eyes and push forward.... My son is not doing well, he has some kind of strange regression- more intelligence combination in his behavior right now. We are on week 6 of treating herpes virus (with www.panavir.com) and while he seems so very much intelligent in some areas, he is having more tantrums, having pipi accidents and not complying w school work. The MD says this is all temporary, that the pipi accidents come from lots of detox taking place. On the bright side, he is babbling much more, saying " water " and " gimme " (actually his first words in 4 years), finding his way out of situations much more easy, achieving his desires w/o much difficulty. He also looks w less inflammation, his tummy has lessened a lot and his head doesn't look bulky..... Though l am happy to see this things, l am also scared to see the others... I think l have to hold on, what do you think? I pray my kiddo will come forward like yours Olga, our kids deserve a better health. > >> Hugs > >> Isa > >> > >> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Dear friends,The Panavir is not OTC, at least not here in mexico where the clinic seeing my kiddo is importing it straight from Moscow. Limin, we are using the solution, given in IM form. The MDs that came from Moscow to evaluate this form of dosage said it is ok too, specially for younger patients. I buy it for 9000 pesos that's around 750 dollars. Krassi, could you help me by re-checking w your contacts what were the symptoms of regression they were seeing and what were the gains afterwards? Did they stick? Is the price I am paying too high? Also could you please ask how long did they treat w it? How was the dosage??? It is encouraging for me to read your friends have had good results! I will keep you updated too.Thank you!isaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:22:06 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Panavir - for Isa Limin,I am not sure if it is available here in US. So far all my info about this product has been coming from Europe and all has been only positive. Having said that I have relatives who would be travelling to here after approximately 2 months, so if Dr. K approves it for us I will buy it from there. Let me know if you are interested.Krassi> >> > >> Olga> >> I also want to join in on the happy congratulations, you are inspiring. I can only close my eyes and push forward.... My son is not doing well, he has some kind of strange regression- more intelligence combination in his behavior right now. We are on week 6 of treating herpes virus (with www.panavir.com) and while he seems so very much intelligent in some areas, he is having more tantrums, having pipi accidents and not complying w school work. The MD says this is all temporary, that the pipi accidents come from lots of detox taking place. On the bright side, he is babbling much more, saying " water " and " gimme " (actually his first words in 4 years), finding his way out of situations much more easy, achieving his desires w/o much difficulty. He also looks w less inflammation, his tummy has lessened a lot and his head doesn't look bulky..... Though l am happy to see this things, l am also scared to see the others... I think l have to hold on, what do you think? I pray my kiddo will come forward like yours Olga, our kids deserve a better health.> >> Hugs> >> Isa> >> > >> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Isa, I will check with both moms if the improvements are still there, but it may take few days to get back to you because of the time difference from them. Last time I received news from one of them she said her son started saying words, much calmer and his receptive language improved greatly, so this is when I got really interested because my son is still non-verbal for the most part and viral kid and overall has lots of similarities with her son. The price $750 sounds too much to me. I checked with the Russian farmacies and they sell it for 3600 rubles = $120, so paying $750 sounds quite a big difference. For how many weeks is supposed to be your son on Panavir? Thanks, Krassi > > >> > > >> Olga > > >> I also want to join in on the happy congratulations, you are inspiring. I can only close my eyes and push forward.... My son is not doing well, he has some kind of strange regression- more intelligence combination in his behavior right now. We are on week 6 of treating herpes virus (with www.panavir.com) and while he seems so very much intelligent in some areas, he is having more tantrums, having pipi accidents and not complying w school work. The MD says this is all temporary, that the pipi accidents come from lots of detox taking place. On the bright side, he is babbling much more, saying " water " and " gimme " (actually his first words in 4 years), finding his way out of situations much more easy, achieving his desires w/o much difficulty. He also looks w less inflammation, his tummy has lessened a lot and his head doesn't look bulky..... Though l am happy to see this things, l am also scared to see the others... I think l have to hold on, what do you think? I pray my kiddo will come forward like yours Olga, our kids deserve a better health. > > >> Hugs > > >> Isa > > >> > > >> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Hi Krassi,There are 5 vials in every box, he gets 1/2 vial every thursday, so it will be 10 weeks in total. You are right, what l am paying is expensive compared to the original price :-( I don't have an idea how much they are paying here for taxes and such, mexico is very complicated in this sense. Today he received his 6th shot and HOURS later, he was showing strange eczema in right arm and left leg. It wasn't there before the shot! I swear to you. He has had a bunch of different viral manifestations in his skin. Thank you for tracking the info for me Krassi, I really appreciate!!!IsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 03:03:48 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Panavir - for Isa Isa, I will check with both moms if the improvements are still there, but it may take few days to get back to you because of the time difference from them. Last time I received news from one of them she said her son started saying words, much calmer and his receptive language improved greatly, so this is when I got really interested because my son is still non-verbal for the most part and viral kid and overall has lots of similarities with her son.The price $750 sounds too much to me. I checked with the Russian farmacies and they sell it for 3600 rubles = $120, so paying $750 sounds quite a big difference.For how many weeks is supposed to be your son on Panavir?Thanks,Krassi> > >> > > >> Olga> > >> I also want to join in on the happy congratulations, you are inspiring. I can only close my eyes and push forward.... My son is not doing well, he has some kind of strange regression- more intelligence combination in his behavior right now. We are on week 6 of treating herpes virus (with www.panavir.com) and while he seems so very much intelligent in some areas, he is having more tantrums, having pipi accidents and not complying w school work. The MD says this is all temporary, that the pipi accidents come from lots of detox taking place. On the bright side, he is babbling much more, saying " water " and " gimme " (actually his first words in 4 years), finding his way out of situations much more easy, achieving his desires w/o much difficulty. He also looks w less inflammation, his tummy has lessened a lot and his head doesn't look bulky..... Though l am happy to see this things, l am also scared to see the others... I think l have to hold on, what do you think? I pray my kiddo will come forward like yours Olga, our kids deserve a better health.> > >> Hugs> > >> Isa> > >> > > >> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Isa, The rash maybe the virus coming to the surface which is good as it maybe leaving the body throught the skin, urine, stool. I think the same company also sells a cream to apply when the rash appears, you may like to ask the doctor you got the vials from. Olga > > > >> > > > >> Olga > > > >> I also want to join in on the happy congratulations, you are inspiring. I can only close my eyes and push forward.... My son is not doing well, he has some kind of strange regression- more intelligence combination in his behavior right now. We are on week 6 of treating herpes virus (with www.panavir.com) and while he seems so very much intelligent in some areas, he is having more tantrums, having pipi accidents and not complying w school work. The MD says this is all temporary, that the pipi accidents come from lots of detox taking place. On the bright side, he is babbling much more, saying " water " and " gimme " (actually his first words in 4 years), finding his way out of situations much more easy, achieving his desires w/o much difficulty. He also looks w less inflammation, his tummy has lessened a lot and his head doesn't look bulky..... Though l am happy to see this things, l am also scared to see the others... I think l have to hold on, what do you think? I pray my kiddo will come forward like yours Olga, our kids deserve a better health. > > > >> Hugs > > > >> Isa > > > >> > > > >> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Isa, I'm thinking like Olga on the rash & leaning toward detox reactions to the viral die-off....don't use anything that will clog the pores...I recommend aloe, aloe/neem gel, calendula cream/oil or any other of the healthy moisterizers. Also, make sure he's hydrating enough w/good water.... & some pure cranberry juice for the kidneys. We've found pee accidents a lot w/a good viral detox as the kidneys can stress....if you can get a good ionic footbath treatment, that'd be at the top of my list to assist the detox. Here's a copy from DrA's TACA presentation in the files to refresh you on some possible Kidney supports you may want to look at(Copied from her Powerpoint presentation): " Supporting the Kidneys This organ is an absolute must to support if you are chelating metals!!! – Renelix by Pekana – M Water – Unda 243 – BioPure Matrix Electrolytes added to all fluids – Burdock or Dandelion tea – Nestmann Solidago tincture – Acupuncture/ Neural therapy/ Laser – K-Drain by Transformation Enzymes – Emergen C added to liquids – Tapping on K27 whenever taking supplements – Cilantro rubbed topically over the kidneys " Here's a copy of the liver supports for you as well...because during a good detox (which is what I'm sure you are dealing w/) they kidney & liver stress usually goes hand in hand: " Liver Support (Suspect this is needed when the bowels are sluggish and your child is not tolerating any medications and is sensitive to most supplements and foods) – Dandelion Root – Ultrathistle (milk thistle product that is easier to absorb) – Liver Life by BioRay (www.bioray2000.com) – Castor oil packs over the liver with heat for up to 50 minutes daily – Coffee enemas, especially when Herxing (not on very young children) – Ensuring regular bowel movements – Treating candida/yeast – Phosphatidyl Choline and Glutathione – Designs for Health PaleoCleanse or Amino D-tox – Laser " Blessings to you my friend! Rita > > > > >> > > > > >> Olga > > > > >> I also want to join in on the happy congratulations, you are inspiring. I can only close my eyes and push forward.... My son is not doing well, he has some kind of strange regression- more intelligence combination in his behavior right now. We are on week 6 of treating herpes virus (with www.panavir.com) and while he seems so very much intelligent in some areas, he is having more tantrums, having pipi accidents and not complying w school work. The MD says this is all temporary, that the pipi accidents come from lots of detox taking place. On the bright side, he is babbling much more, saying " water " and " gimme " (actually his first words in 4 years), finding his way out of situations much more easy, achieving his desires w/o much difficulty. He also looks w less inflammation, his tummy has lessened a lot and his head doesn't look bulky..... Though l am happy to see this things, l am also scared to see the others... I think l have to hold on, what do you think? I pray my kiddo will come forward like yours Olga, our kids deserve a better health. > > > > >> Hugs > > > > >> Isa > > > > >> > > > > >> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Thank you Rita, Olga,This are all very good suggestions and one sure forgets when nervous! Rita, what is tapping on K27? :-)I see better days when doing an enema, specially coffee and stingnettle.HugsIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:56:52 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Panavir - for Isa Isa,I'm thinking like Olga on the rash & leaning toward detox reactions to the viral die-off....don't use anything that will clog the pores...I recommend aloe, aloe/neem gel, calendula cream/oil or any other of the healthy moisterizers. Also, make sure he's hydrating enough w/good water.... & some pure cranberry juice for the kidneys. We've found pee accidents a lot w/a good viral detox as the kidneys can stress....if you can get a good ionic footbath treatment, that'd be at the top of my list to assist the detox. Here's a copy from DrA's TACA presentation in the files to refresh you on some possible Kidney supports you may want to look at(Copied from her Powerpoint presentation): " Supporting the KidneysThis organ is an absolute must to support if you are chelating metals!!!– Renelix by Pekana– M Water– Unda 243– BioPure Matrix Electrolytes added to all fluids– Burdock or Dandelion tea– Nestmann Solidago tincture– Acupuncture/ Neural therapy/ Laser– K-Drain by Transformation Enzymes– Emergen C added to liquids– Tapping on K27 whenever taking supplements– Cilantro rubbed topically over the kidneys " Here's a copy of the liver supports for you as well...because during a good detox (which is what I'm sure you are dealing w/) they kidney & liver stress usually goes hand in hand: " Liver Support(Suspect this is needed when the bowels are sluggish and your child is not tolerating any medications and is sensitive to most supplements and foods)– Dandelion Root– Ultrathistle (milk thistle product that is easier to absorb)– Liver Life by BioRay (www.bioray2000.com)– Castor oil packs over the liver with heat for up to 50 minutesdaily– Coffee enemas, especially when Herxing (not on very youngchildren)– Ensuring regular bowel movements– Treating candida/yeast– Phosphatidyl Choline and Glutathione– Designs for Health PaleoCleanse or Amino D-tox– Laser " Blessings to you my friend!Rita> > > > >> > > > > >> Olga> > > > >> I also want to join in on the happy congratulations, you are inspiring. I can only close my eyes and push forward.... My son is not doing well, he has some kind of strange regression- more intelligence combination in his behavior right now. We are on week 6 of treating herpes virus (with www.panavir.com) and while he seems so very much intelligent in some areas, he is having more tantrums, having pipi accidents and not complying w school work. The MD says this is all temporary, that the pipi accidents come from lots of detox taking place. On the bright side, he is babbling much more, saying " water " and " gimme " (actually his first words in 4 years), finding his way out of situations much more easy, achieving his desires w/o much difficulty. He also looks w less inflammation, his tummy has lessened a lot and his head doesn't look bulky..... Though l am happy to see this things, l am also scared to see the others... I think l have to hold on, what do you think? I pray my kiddo will come forward like yours Olga, our kids deserve a better health.> > > > >> Hugs> > > > >> Isa> > > > >> > > > > >> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Hi Isa, So basically you're doing injections, right? I mean Panavir Injections. I think Viral goes away on its own(my experience), but liver, kidney and Gall bladder are the most in danger. So you need to support them better. Good luck and keep us posted. Sasmita > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Olga > > > > > >> I also want to join in on the happy congratulations, you are inspiring. I can only close my eyes and push forward.... My son is not doing well, he has some kind of strange regression- more intelligence combination in his behavior right now. We are on week 6 of treating herpes virus (with www.panavir.com) and while he seems so very much intelligent in some areas, he is having more tantrums, having pipi accidents and not complying w school work. The MD says this is all temporary, that the pipi accidents come from lots of detox taking place. On the bright side, he is babbling much more, saying " water " and " gimme " (actually his first words in 4 years), finding his way out of situations much more easy, achieving his desires w/o much difficulty. He also looks w less inflammation, his tummy has lessened a lot and his head doesn't look bulky..... Though l am happy to see this things, l am also scared to see the others... I think l have to hold on, what do you think? I pray my kiddo will come forward like yours Olga, our kids deserve a better health. > > > > > >> Hugs > > > > > >> Isa > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 i meant Viral RASH goes away on its own;) Sasmita > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Olga > > > > > > >> I also want to join in on the happy congratulations, you are inspiring. I can only close my eyes and push forward.... My son is not doing well, he has some kind of strange regression- more intelligence combination in his behavior right now. We are on week 6 of treating herpes virus (with www.panavir.com) and while he seems so very much intelligent in some areas, he is having more tantrums, having pipi accidents and not complying w school work. The MD says this is all temporary, that the pipi accidents come from lots of detox taking place. On the bright side, he is babbling much more, saying " water " and " gimme " (actually his first words in 4 years), finding his way out of situations much more easy, achieving his desires w/o much difficulty. He also looks w less inflammation, his tummy has lessened a lot and his head doesn't look bulky..... Though l am happy to see this things, l am also scared to see the others... I think l have to hold on, what do you think? I pray my kiddo will come forward like yours Olga, our kids deserve a better health. > > > > > > >> Hugs > > > > > > >> Isa > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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