Re: Lyme / Autism Math ?

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Your best source for clinical research is dclaessen@..., posts here oftenTo: borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 6:28:34 AMSubject: Lyme / Autism Math ?

Does anyone know the prevalence of Lyme disease in the United States? I know Autism is now, depending on the report you read, about 1 out of 100. I was interested if anyone knew what it is for Lyme disease? (1 out of ?)I am trying to make the point, to a naysayer, for my thesis that it can't be a simple coincidence that many children have both Lyme and Autism. If I had the prevalence rate for Lyme I could figure the random chance that a child with have both. Also, what have you seen as the % of kids with Autism who have came back positive for Lyme? I know that is a tricky one with all the inconsistencies for Lyme testing, but in published studies I have seen numbers around 20 - 25%. Numbers are probably higher, but for my thesis I will have to stick with published results in peer reviewed journals. Thanks,MasonTo: borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism From:

leemo555@...Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:16:15 -0700Subject: RE: Re: Doxycycline

You know whether he also has viral issues will impact treatment...for myself who suffers with both, abx oral treatment has not been effective although initially yes..however my son does amazing very noticible cognitive benefits on meds..3 1/2 yrs. old

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism From: wantonel@...Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:13:12 +0000Subject: Re: Doxycycline

,I don't want to scare or discourage you from giving your son further antibiotic treament to improve his health issues, but recently a mother from another group(biomedical one) posted an article of how antibiotics could damage our kids even further .Heidi posted the right link as the one I posted could not be seen.I will try to find it and re-posted it again.Also I think Dr. K. was giving a speech on how to treat lyme and other related illnesses without the use of antibiotics and I wonder if anyone in the group attended the seminar and can give some information about it.Olga>> We're not seeing any

improvements for lyme/increased bart on nearly 3 months of > rifampin, omnicef, and zith. Indeed, our son's behaviors have been undeniably > worse, i.e., non-compliance, increased OCD, agression, etc.> > Our guy turns 8 in May, so if this regiment continues to fail, we might ask our > LLMD then to try some Doxy. It's suppose to stain developing teeth, but a year > and a half of so many different abx seem to have ALREADY discolored his bottom > permanent teeth. It would be nice to just catch a glimpse of what he might be if > he hadn't been born with borrelia et al. > > > Has anyone seen any improvements with doxy for older ASD/lyme kids?> > > > P.S. My wife finally saw an adult LLMD for her condition and he believes that we > will not see any major cognitive changes in our son unless we try the IV abx > route. > >

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The best place for statistics that are useable in school is the CDC. They state somewhere on their website that the reported numbers represent 6-12% of actual cases. It is buried somewhere in the site, I have found it at least a couple of times. I simply reference the CDC website for anything I get from the CDC. If you look at maps where number of cases for Lyme and Autism are tracked by state or county, you will see a correlation between number of Lyme cases and the rate of autism. I know there is a similar map for MS and Lyme. I think that person used Lyme disease in dogs, which is more likely to be reported than in humans. I also read a report about the risk of Autism correlating with the amount of rainfall in the area. That could be tied into the risk for Lyme disease, as ticks like more humid weather. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of Mason KuhnSent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:29 AMTo: borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism Subject: Lyme / Autism Math ? Does anyone know the prevalence of Lyme disease in the United States? I know Autism is now, depending on the report you read, about 1 out of 100. I was interested if anyone knew what it is for Lyme disease? (1 out of ?)I am trying to make the point, to a naysayer, for my thesis that it can't be a simple coincidence that many children have both Lyme and Autism. If I had the prevalence rate for Lyme I could figure the random chance that a child with have both. Also, what have you seen as the % of kids with Autism who have came back positive for Lyme? I know that is a tricky one with all the inconsistencies for Lyme testing, but in published studies I have seen numbers around 20 - 25%. Numbers are probably higher, but for my thesis I will have to stick with published results in peer reviewed journals. Thanks,MasonTo: borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism From: leemo555@...Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:16:15 -0700Subject: RE: Re: Doxycycline You know whether he also has viral issues will impact treatment...for myself who suffers with both, abx oral treatment has not been effective although initially yes..however my son does amazing very noticible cognitive benefits on meds..3 1/2 yrs. old To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism From: wantonel@...Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:13:12 +0000Subject: Re: Doxycycline ,I don't want to scare or discourage you from giving your son further antibiotic treament to improve his health issues, but recently a mother from another group(biomedical one) posted an article of how antibiotics could damage our kids even further .Heidi posted the right link as the one I posted could not be seen.I will try to find it and re-posted it again.Also I think Dr. K. was giving a speech on how to treat lyme and other related illnesses without the use of antibiotics and I wonder if anyone in the group attended the seminar and can give some information about it.Olga>> We're not seeing any improvements for lyme/increased bart on nearly 3 months of > rifampin, omnicef, and zith. Indeed, our son's behaviors have been undeniably > worse, i.e., non-compliance, increased OCD, agression, etc.> > Our guy turns 8 in May, so if this regiment continues to fail, we might ask our > LLMD then to try some Doxy. It's suppose to stain developing teeth, but a year > and a half of so many different abx seem to have ALREADY discolored his bottom > permanent teeth. It would be nice to just catch a glimpse of what he might be if > he hadn't been born with borrelia et al. > > > Has anyone seen any improvements with doxy for older ASD/lyme kids?> > > > P.S. My wife finally saw an adult LLMD for her condition and he believes that we > will not see any major cognitive changes in our son unless we try the IV abx > route. > > > > ________________________________> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5922 (20110303) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5922 (20110303) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5924 (20110303) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5924 (20110303) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com