Guest guest Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 I have found a research article that discusses how bacteria invade macrophages. One kind invades the mp's and then the mp dies and this bacteria is salmonella, yersinia and others. Another kind invades the mp's and is tolerated by them such as Brucella, mycoplasmas, chlamydia. Borrelia may iniitally behave like the first bacteria and then is tolerated by the mp's. Brucella and other bacteria are known to be chronic infections. In fact, we think Florence Nightingale had Brucella which was chronic and explained her lifelong ill health. The MP which I have just started to study is talking about Th1 pathogens, and I saw that Amy Proal in her new video is addressing these issues. Chronicity of bacterial infections may be explained by the fact that the immune system has accepted the pathogens. Also, we do not know what effect biofilms have on subverting the immune system and antibiotics from reaching the bacteria. Biofilms seem to be created as a result of bacteriophages attacking the bacteria and perhaps also from other threats such as antibiotics. We need to understand the role of bioflims, persister bacteria, qurorum sensing and transfer of genetic material of bacteria. Also we do know the the subclasses of IgG antibodies are affected by Borrelia and that initially we see IgG 3 and others being low but with chronicity we see IgG4 low. All of this research is usually on pubmed and the CDC. NIH, IDSA all know this. We also know that rickettsia infections untreated are one of the three causes of Waldenstrom's Macroglobulinemia. I think that end stage untreated bacterial infections such as these tick borne infections are causative of cancer, and we see many kinds of cancer associated with these tbd. It may be as a result of a chronically turned on immune system that is no longer able to kill off cancer cells. The research is out there, we just have to read and synthesize the info. Also wse do know that ticks carry viruses and we should be looking to see which viruses may have been conveyed through either mosquito or tick bites...Ticks have carried tick borne encephalitis and Powassan virus and mosquitoes have carried other viruses. We may activate latent viruses but we are also gaining new ones. Powassan virus was shown to be in beagles who were infected with wild ticks. They were infected with multiple kinds of Borrelia, Babesia, Ehrlichia and Powassan virus. The outer surface proteins of Bb are changing so of course a stupid vaccine that utitlized the outer surface proteins would not work. Perhaps the CDC, NIH etc... will let us know how horrible these tbd are once they think they have a vaccine. Otherwise they will DENY DENY DENY because they have no idea as to how to cure us. Regards, Dolores Subject: CDC response...To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 2:49 PM Anyone else throw up? Such a crock and any doc that is willing to look (at labs, body, clinical presentations) and list (even for just a sec) is usuaaly surprised by the pile of info that supports chronic infections and all that goes along with it.They obviously spend too much time on conference calls....how odd...thought it was the govts job to investigate. Barf! No one has the answer and what works for me might not work for you....that is where our country fails miserably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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