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I've been reluctant to put this out there but need to do it before I

start confusing people, especially at Autscape:

about 18 months ago I ordained as a Buddhist nun. About a month ago I

returned my robes and my vows, meaning I am no longer a nun. I feel

it's time I returned to using my lay name on lists - Ruth.

What I did when I changed my name before was to put my previous name

in brackets for a while to remind everyone needing reminding; this is

what I will do again.

Thanks,

Ruth (Genyin)

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" Prejudice is a burden that confuses the past, threatens the future

and renders the present inaccessible. "

Maya Angelou

" My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them. "

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Hi Ruth -

> about 18 months ago I ordained as a Buddhist nun. About a month ago I

> returned my robes and my vows, meaning I am no longer a nun.

So what made you resign? I was under the vague understanding that

Buddhist nuns do not necessarily serve for a lifetime, and many go back to

secular life.

- s

who has trouble believing in the reincarnation bit... maybe I'll believe

in it next lifetime.

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> Hi Ruth,

>

> I love your screen name " Autiste " . Where do you live now?

I'm in a farmhouse (as a lodger), in West Yorkshire/south Pennines.

Actually only a couple of miles from the castle where I was before,

but further out of town.

It's such a beautiful area, steep imposing hills all around. The

farmhouse is up a gravelled and puddly residential lane, kind of

tucked into a corner with it's own steep fields on two sides. It's

the only house on the lane with significant land and presumably used

to have the land the other houses are now on (as it's the oldest house

on the lane). When the railway was being built 18 people lived in

this house - which is somewhat unbelievable. It's a big house but not

*that* big!

I'm currently bottlefeeding four lambs plus topping up a tiny one with

a somewhat useless mother. And I'm looking for voluntary work.

Ruth (Genyin)

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" Prejudice is a burden that confuses the past, threatens the future

and renders the present inaccessible. "

Maya Angelou

" My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them. "

Mitch Hedberg

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mitch_hedberg.html

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Ruth wrote:

> > > There are logical ways to look at rebirth and karma, if you're

> > > interested. Buddhism is great for it's direct logic.

> >

>For me the logic in karma comes from things like a two people being in

>the same accident and one being severely hurt while the other is

>virtually unscathed. Buddhism would explain this as the two having

>created the karma together to be in a similar situation but one having

>created more severe negativity than the other.

I think I would call that a rationalization rather than logic. The

logic might involve looking at the physics of the accident -- who was

where in relation to the impact, the design and materials of the

vehicle(s) involved, the speed of impact, etc.

Jane

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> I meant to ask you what does the name " Genyin " mean? It's a beutiful name.

Essence of Virtue. I took it to mean that it was up to me to

recognise the Buddha-nature in every living being I interacted with or

came across in any way, as well as my own when I was feeling hopeless,

negative or defeated.

Ruth (Genyin)

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" Prejudice is a burden that confuses the past, threatens the future

and renders the present inaccessible. "

Maya Angelou

" My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them. "

Mitch Hedberg

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mitch_hedberg.html

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I was curious about this also, so I looked up the Buddhist sect in question. It

was widely criticised, in very general terms, suggesting that it had degenerated

into a personality cult. However, in Buddhism, there is a prohibition of

" speaking of the faults of others " so one is unlikely to find out the

particulars if one is not directly involved.

If this degeneration into a personality cult is true, this is not unique to that

group or even to Buddhism. Such deterioratoin is an unfortunate development in

many religious groups. I've seen similar deterioration in groups based on

Christiainty, Judiasm, Native American spirituality, even in Unitarian

Universalism. Also I've seen it in secular groups, even workplaces. Just an

unfortunate human tendancy, I guess. Since we (autistics) don't play

personality cult games as well as NT folks, and such games are often odious to

us (as autistics), we often wind up serving as the canary in the coal mine when

such personality cults develop.

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Joni-

Great analogy! I can relate- been the canary - got knocked unconscious-

gotten the Tee-shirt-... Thankfully, every group is not like that. And, I have

learned to walk off when things begin to look like that too much. It took me

decades to learn. It makes me all the more thankful when I am involved in a

group that is not like this!

joni pinkney wrote:

Also I've seen it in secular groups, even workplaces. Just an

unfortunate human tendancy, I guess. Since we (autistics) don't play personality

cult games as well as NT folks, and such games are often odious to us (as

autistics), we often wind up serving as the canary in the coal mine when such

personality cults develop.

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> I think I would call that a rationalization rather than logic. The

> logic might involve looking at the physics of the accident -- who was

> where in relation to the impact, the design and materials of the

> vehicle(s) involved, the speed of impact, etc.

The great new god of scientific logic, lol. Yes, of course ... but

science can't get beyond the hows to the whys.

It's kind of amusing that when science changes its mind about

something it's called progress and when religion evolves it's seen as

proof that all religion/spirituality is bull. (I know this isn't what

you're saying, Jane. Just a thought that occured)

I'm enjoying Batchelor's book " Buddhism Without Beliefs " at

present. It gets beyond the religious trappings to where Gautama

Buddha was coming from - before there was such a thing as Buddhism as

a religion.

Ruth (Genyin)

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" Prejudice is a burden that confuses the past, threatens the future

and renders the present inaccessible. "

Maya Angelou

" My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them. "

Mitch Hedberg

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mitch_hedberg.html

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