Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Hi But if you have aspergers, and are intelegent, it is not possible to get help, until you end up in a complete mess! If you approach your GP, then he or she says you should approach social care, when you approach then the send you back to your GP. The truth is nobody cares a FUCK about people with Aspergers. DIane Kivi --- Jane Meyerding wrote: > Diane wrote: > >You out there, do realise the reason for her > addition > >to spending money. If you are intelegent and have > >Aspergers Syndrome, you need to have contact with > >people. The only way for many of us to get contact > is > >to spend money. When we are not spending money we > find > >ourselves shunned by everyone. > > If that's what was going on in this case, then > someone (one of the > people paid to provide services to the disabled, > perhaps) should have > helped the young woman find other ways to interact > with the world. > Interest groups, volunteer work, whatever. Habits > are extremely hard > to break, and when habits have formed around special > interests, they > may be very very hard to break. But > nevertheless..... > > Jane > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 And if you're in the USA and you don't have medical insurance, you won't get any kind of care, regardless of what your diagnosis status is. If you do have medical insurance, it may or may not cover " mental health conditions " - my experience is that they tend to lump Aspergers in under that heading. Most likely not, unless they decide you're depressed and they can slap a bottle of pills in your hand and tell you to come back to see them in six months for a refill, if they can fit you into the schedule. Quite frankly (being Captain Obvious here), if you don't have a supportive family or at least one good friend, you're on your own. You'll either sink or swim, or, perhaps, just muddle by day-to-day for a lifetime without the freedom either end of that particular spectrum allows. It's best to not expect help from outside your own head, regardless of how badly you need it. We are square pegs in a lot more ways than just our inability to read social cues and play the games. And we are, quite often, an inconvenience. > > >You out there, do realise the reason for her > > addition > > >to spending money. If you are intelegent and have > > >Aspergers Syndrome, you need to have contact with > > >people. The only way for many of us to get contact > > is > > >to spend money. When we are not spending money we > > find > > >ourselves shunned by everyone. > > > > If that's what was going on in this case, then > > someone (one of the > > people paid to provide services to the disabled, > > perhaps) should have > > helped the young woman find other ways to interact > > with the world. > > Interest groups, volunteer work, whatever. Habits > > are extremely hard > > to break, and when habits have formed around special > > interests, they > > may be very very hard to break. But > > nevertheless..... > > > > Jane > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 > > Quite frankly (being Captain Obvious here), if you don't have a > supportive family or at least one good friend, you're on your own. > You'll either sink or swim, or, perhaps, just muddle by day-to-day for > a lifetime without the freedom either end of that particular spectrum > allows. It's best to not expect help from outside your own head, > regardless of how badly you need it. > > We are square pegs in a lot more ways than just our inability to read > social cues and play the games. And we are, quite often, an inconvenience. > ....ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 > > > > Quite frankly (being Captain Obvious here), if you don't have a > > supportive family or at least one good friend, you're on your own. > > You'll either sink or swim, or, perhaps, just muddle by day-to-day for > > a lifetime without the freedom either end of that particular spectrum > > allows. It's best to not expect help from outside your own head, > > regardless of how badly you need it. > > > > We are square pegs in a lot more ways than just our inability to read > > social cues and play the games. And we are, quite often, an inconvenience. > > > > > ...ouch. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 > > > > > > Quite frankly (being Captain Obvious here), if you don't have a > > > supportive family or at least one good friend, you're on your own. > > > You'll either sink or swim, or, perhaps, just muddle by day-to-day for > > > a lifetime without the freedom either end of that particular spectrum > > > allows. It's best to not expect help from outside your own head, > > > regardless of how badly you need it. > > > > > > We are square pegs in a lot more ways than just our inability to read > > > social cues and play the games. And we are, quite often, an > inconvenience. > > > > > > > > > ...ouch. > > You'll have to excuse my lack of " let's make it pretty " rhetoric on this topic. I studied social welfare policy dysfunctions (i.e., how the social services systems for persons with mental/physical disabilities in the USA malfunction) in grad school for four years. While personal experience does play into my perspective, my research was extremely disheartening. For all practical purposes, there isn't a universal, functioning social services network in this country. What did exist (which wasn't stellar by any means) in the 1960s and 1970s took tremendous budget cuts in the Reagan years and thereafter, and funding has not been restored. What does exist now is a system that is severely fragmented, underfunded, understaffed, and overloaded. There are pockets of good services in specific areas of some states, but on the whole the picture is dismal. The regulations and programs are often at complete odds with each other. What's more amazing is that the general public seems to be completely clueless on this - or, rather, they are until they need those services and find they're not available. Going it on your own is better than giving up - it's not impossible to make your way. It is just not as easy as if you have a support system. If you have one, count your blessings. If not, that's the breaks. You'll have to make it on your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 > Hi > > You out there, do realise the reason for her addition > to spending money. If you are intelegent and have > Aspergers Syndrome, you need to have contact with > people. The only way for many of us to get contact is > to spend money. When we are not spending money we find > ourselves shunned by everyone. i would agree with that. i was nothing like as severe as that woman, but for a long time i overspent because shopping was the only contact i had with people apart from my children. i sort of knew there was a link between spending and needing to communicate but never articulated it. i had very little money so for me it was food shopping. shoes would be very effective though because the person who fits them spends quite a lot of time talking to you if you are fussy about style and fit, and if you were a known big spender, you would be treated very respectfully no matter how odd. merlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 It was 28 Apr 2006, when nannersone commented: > > > > > > > > > Quite frankly (being Captain Obvious here), if you don't have a > > > > supportive family or at least one good friend, you're on your own. > > > > You'll either sink or swim, or, perhaps, just muddle by > day-to-day for > > > > a lifetime without the freedom either end of that particular > spectrum > > > > allows. It's best to not expect help from outside your own head, > > > > regardless of how badly you need it. > > > > > > > > We are square pegs in a lot more ways than just our inability to > read > > > > social cues and play the games. And we are, quite often, an > > inconvenience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...ouch. > > > > > > You'll have to excuse my lack of " let's make it pretty " rhetoric on > this topic. I studied social welfare policy dysfunctions (i.e., how > the social services systems for persons with mental/physical > disabilities in the USA malfunction) in grad school for four years. > While personal experience does play into my perspective, my research > was extremely disheartening. For all practical purposes, there isn't a > universal, functioning social services network in this country. What did > exist (which wasn't stellar by any means) in the 1960s and 1970s took > tremendous budget cuts in the Reagan years and thereafter, and funding has > not been restored. > > What does exist now is a system that is severely fragmented, > underfunded, understaffed, and overloaded. There are pockets of good > services in specific areas of some states, but on the whole the > picture is dismal. The regulations and programs are often at complete > odds with each other. What's more amazing is that the general public > seems to be completely clueless on this - or, rather, they are until > they need those services and find they're not available. > > Going it on your own is better than giving up - it's not impossible to make > your way. It is just not as easy as if you have a support system. If you > have one, count your blessings. If not, that's the breaks. You'll have to > make it on your own. Want a rather cold-blooded take on this? The best way to get help on this or most other conditions is to either join the military and have it impact your service there, or have it present " caused or exacerbated by " working conditions, so either military disability or Workers Compensation covers it. Gawd knows my difficulties have been exacerbated by current job -- telemarketer. Imagine being an Aspie telemarketer, or in most other sales positions. I can manage quite well, actually. I can pretend to have some idea what motivates the folks I'm talking to, and reason and Act my way through the process, but it's constant labor, and I exhaust myself by the end of the day. (You may be able to imagine how well I cope with rude or ignorant people...) No Workers Comp claims, though, yet. I might well have finished my schooling in (hopefully) my next job, Medical Transcription, if I had anything left at the end of a working day or a workweek. Almost makes me wish for a crippling illness or injury, so I could at least focus on something that's more likely to improve my life. -- B. , another satisfied user of Pegasus Mail Client and Mercury MTA <http://www.pmail.com> <ftp://ftp.usm.maine.edu/pegasus/winpmail/w32-431.exe> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 It was 29 Apr 2006, when gprobs commented: > > You out there, do realise the reason for her addition > > to spending money. If you are intelegent and have > > Aspergers Syndrome, you need to have contact with > > people. The only way for many of us to get contact is > > to spend money. When we are not spending money we find > > ourselves shunned by everyone. > > i would agree with that. i was nothing like as severe as that woman, but > for a long time i overspent because shopping was the only contact i had > with people apart from my children. i sort of knew there was a link > between spending and needing to communicate but never articulated it. i > had very little money so for me it was food shopping. shoes would be very > effective though because the person who fits them spends quite a lot of > time talking to you if you are fussy about style and fit, and if you were a > known big spender, you would be treated very respectfully no matter how > odd. merlin I miss read your second sentence there, reading " as that woman " to be " as a woman, " which changes the meaning a bit... Anyway. I suspect I do something similar with Kareoke, albeit with not-so- tragic impact. While I do love to sing, I need to do Kareoke in particular because it puts me in a somewhat social environment, standing up on stage and singing and appearing social without actually -being- social. In fact, the other night I played my Kareoke persona on stage so well I was invited to sit with a couple of young ladies who I " know " from work, who apparently expected me to be sociable at the table. I would have fit in better if I'd word Mime makeup. I shortly returned to my own, relatively private table at the far end of the bar, a cooler and quieter place where I was left alone by the folks sharing my table, except when I went up to sing. That's a relatively noisy and crowded environment and could be uncomfortable for me, but the Crowd Noises turn into a sort of white noise below a certain volume. I stay away from the really loud, busy Kareoke places. And I bring a book, which -usually- says, " Don't bug me, I'm reading. " And I sing well enough that if I show up more than one weekend in a row, the place -is- busy. So I generally don't. But that is expensive, and I don't go more often because I can't afford to, not because I don't miss the " social " contact with other people. I can see, though, where that need might result in serious financial consequences, if I had enough of other people's money to spend on my needs. -- B. , another satisfied user of Pegasus Mail Client and Mercury MTA <http://www.pmail.com> <ftp://ftp.usm.maine.edu/pegasus/winpmail/w32-431.exe> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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