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I have no clue about Alzheimer symptoms vs LBD, but one that stands out is the

repeating over and over questions. " Where do you live? " and again minutes later

" Where do you live? " this I found common at the nursing home with Alzheimers. My

husband never repeated questions, not even in the beginning stages, but it seems

to be an Alzheimer symptom. Possibly LBD has it if it is combined with

Alzheimers. Has anyone experienced the repeated questions with LBD? That may be

one way to determine Alzheimers from LBD in the earlier stages, unless they have

a combination of Alzheimers/LBD in the LBD Spectrum. I am curious to hear your

responses on this question.

Jan Colello

San Francisco Bay Area, CA

Husband, Jim, dx w/LBD Oct. 2003

Deceased January 22, 2011

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Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 8:25:52 PM

Subject: Re: LBD vs Alzheimers

 

I have heard when Dementia starts out with hallucinations, it is most likely

LBD. Alzheimer's doesn't normally start out with hallucinations.

>

> Hello all,

>

> A month or so ago my mother's Neuro Psych leaned towards LBD but would not

> commit until the neurologist examined her.  This week the neurologist appt.

>came

>

> and went and he thinks it's the onset of Alzheimers.  He's recommended a B12

> regimine and Aracep (or something like that).  I'm a little confused as to

the

> two different diagnosis.  He felt an MRI was not needed at this time and his

> Alzheimer diagnosis was determined by certain test etc.  I was not present

>since

>

> I live in Texas and mom is in Tucson.

>

> Any comments are welcomed.  It looks like I might have to head to another

group

>

> for alzheimers. 

>

>

> Please respond.

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

>

>

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I have to say that my Dad does repeat questions sometimes; less lately, but very

much in the earlier days of Lewy Body. Nobody ever diagnosed him to date as

also having Alzheimers.

Lori

Re: LBD vs Alzheimers

I have heard when Dementia starts out with hallucinations, it is most likely

LBD. Alzheimer's doesn't normally start out with hallucinations.

>

> Hello all,

>

> A month or so ago my mother's Neuro Psych leaned towards LBD but would not

> commit until the neurologist examined her. This week the neurologist appt.

>came

>

> and went and he thinks it's the onset of Alzheimers. He's recommended a B12

> regimine and Aracep (or something like that). I'm a little confused as to

the

> two different diagnosis. He felt an MRI was not needed at this time and his

> Alzheimer diagnosis was determined by certain test etc. I was not present

>since

>

> I live in Texas and mom is in Tucson.

>

> Any comments are welcomed. It looks like I might have to head to another

group

>

> for alzheimers.

>

>

> Please respond.

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

>

>

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I hear you Imogene about everything. Jim had the toileting issues too. He could

no longer identify a toilet. I was working full time in those days and I would

wake up to Jim urinating on the floor. He would often sit on the edge of the bed

or stand by the bed and just let it go. I would be up shampooing carpets at all

hours of the night/day. I finally bought a plastic runner and placed it by the

bed to save the carpet. All I had to do was mop the runner when he did his

thing. I had so many hours of sleep deprivation. He would just tear a diaper

off, so that did no good to keep him from urinating on the floor. There were

some clothes that went on backwards for that type of thing in dementia catalogs,

but then he would not let me change him, so I could not get those off of him.

And catheters did not work for him. I know what you went through. Thankfully, I

didn't have to deal with diarrhea like you did down the hall. Although, there

was a time that I fought with Jim to get to a toilet, because he did have

diarrhea and I got him to the toilet, but I couldn't get him to sit and it went

all over the toilet and down the sides and onto the bathroom tiled floor and

even on the wall behind the toilet and I had to scrub and bleach and clean up

everything and even got him in the shower and cleaned up.

In the late 90s Jim would grocery shop with me, he knew how to ride the electric

cart, but by 2000, he could not work the remote for the TV or dial a phone or

manipulate the electric cart at the grocery store. He could no longer walk even

with a walker, it would get way out in front of him without guidance. His feet

would stick to the floor, so I could no longer bring him to the grocery store. I

could not wheel him in a wheelchair and a grocery cart too. If I only had a few

items to pick up, I could bring him in his wheelchair or transport chair and put

the hand basket on his lap to hold the groceries and then I would get the

plastic bags to put the groceries in and hang them on the handles of the

wheelchair and bring them to the car or have a grocery clerk take them to the

car. But when I had a lot of grocery shopping, I could not bring Jim and had to

have someone stay with him and he would get delusional that I was going out to

meet a lover. Jim got delusional too that the caregiver and I were stealing his

money, but I found out accidently that phony play money was just as good as the

real thing, so I placed that around the house for him to grab and hide. He never

had a problem with me trying to find it. Hahahaha

Oh my! Those were the days. But Imogene, I would take them all back again if I

could have Jim back. Those days don't seem so hard anymore, once you get through

them. When you think you are facing something hard, there is always something

harder to face down the road, so the ones before don't seem as hard as they

once seemed at the time. It's all relative to where you are in the disease.

You are right, it helps to talk about it after it is all done, I guess in some

way it is therapy for us now.

Hugs to you and Love a Lot!

Jan

 

Hi dear Jan,

You are right about AD and LBD showing up in some patients. Don was

diagnosed with Alzheimer's at first. And yes, right at first he repeated

questions. But, that didn't last long. LBD overshadowed everything else.

Like, Jim, My Don displayed hallucinations early on, which made me know he

had LBD. The new Doctor diagnosed LBD right off.

Also, like, Jim, Don had symptoms as far back as 1995, (he died April 22,

2010.) 1995 is when he had to quit work as he could no longer do the math

it required. He had high agitation at that time, but I attributed it to his

heart condition, (he had just had open heart surgery for the second time),

and the loss of his job. It is hard on a man to not be the bread winner.

After weeks of his being on my back with his agitation, I told him if he

didn't see the doctor and tell him about his agitation that I would leave him.

I couldn't stand it. The doctor gave him Zoloft, and in a couple of weeks

there was a big difference.

Early on Don tried to pick fights with me. I caught on to what he was

doing, and

started going the extra mile to show all the love in the world I could to

him. I reassured in encouraging ways to build up his low self image. And,

yes, I was accused of having a boyfriend, even when I never left his side.

At first he could still get around very well, and we did all the shopping

together. But, somehow I probably had a boyfriend in his mind.

Or, I was taking money that he didn't know about. That too was worked out,

and after a while he trusted me completely with it.

He was the worlds worst at hiding thing in unusual places. We finally made

a joke out of it, by saying look in your sock drawer first.

One trying situation was when he urinated on the floors in unusual places.

That usually happened at night, and I would walk in it when only the night

lights were on. UGH! At least I had tile floors. He had diarrhea one time,

and left a trail down the hall to the bathroom, on carpet. I got tile for

my allergies and for just such things as that trail down the hall that had

to be cleaned up while on my hands and knees. I had no scrubber at that

time. I cleaned every fiber, and deep too. Bleach here I come! No more of that.

There were other accidents later on, but there was tile! Cold to walk on,

you bet! We wore lots of socks and leggings. I bit my tongue and didn't

fuss as he couldn't help it.

All right! I've talked enough for this time.

Love a lot, it helps in a big way,

Imogene

In a message dated 2/13/2011 11:06:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,

janetcolello@... writes:

I have no clue about Alzheimer symptoms vs LBD, but one that stands out is

the

repeating over and over questions. " Where do you live? " and again minutes

later

" Where do you live? " this I found common at the nursing home with

Alzheimers. My

husband never repeated questions, not even in the beginning stages, but it

seems

to be an Alzheimer symptom. Possibly LBD has it if it is combined with

Alzheimers. Has anyone experienced the repeated questions with LBD? That

may be

one way to determine Alzheimers from LBD in the earlier stages, unless

they have

a combination of Alzheimers/LBD in the LBD Spectrum. I am curious to hear

your

responses on this question.

Jan Colello

San Francisco Bay Area, CA

Husband, Jim, dx w/LBD Oct. 2003

Deceased January 22, 2011

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