Re: What Doctors Didn’t Want Me to Know about Gall Bladder Surgery

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Oh god, what a disaster! It sounds like you had horrible medical treatment.

And to not even know who was operating on you......??!!

There are good doctors/surgeons, and bad (well meaning, but inept or

unknowledgable), and the trick is figuring out the difference. When one is

suffering, it is often hard to take the time to research doctors.

And, even a good surgeon makes a mistake sometimes. It is definately a

risk. That being said, I think there are far more success stories than

horror stories regarding gallbladder surgery. (Not promoting it as the

first or best choice, just relating my experience.) I know many people

personally who have had this done, along with myself, and everyone is fine.

I am sorry for you, and others, for whom the experience turned out

differently. I believe that your experience might had been different, had

your surgeon been more competent.

It is certainly true that there is a lot about the whole hospital experience

in general that patients should be more aware of. Lots of times, for

instance, those " nurses " caring for you, are only CNA's but their tags don't

tell you that. My family physician has said that if he were choosing a

profession today, he would not choose medicine, because the HMO's etc., have

just made it much harder to have the same type of personal relationship with

patients that he used to have, and because of all of the stupid regulations

that are being placed upon the " industry. " A lot of physicians are just as

upset as the patients about the state our health care system is in. Patient

activism IS important, and I give you a lot of credit for rallying together

others who have been mistreated.

Debra

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OK, I just went back to the top of that post, and realized that it wasn't a

first-person account from someone on this list. OOPS! Well, I'm still

sorry for her suffering.

Debra

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[Guest guest]

11/25/01 8:20:38 AM, Agnes <agnes@...> passed on an

astonishingly eye-opening report that should, but probably won't, get

people out of the clutches of money-hungry surgeons:

>

>What Doctors Didn’t Want Me to Know about Gall Bladder Surgery

>http://www.a-r-m.org/gallblad.htm

>

>by E. LaBozetta, editor, Mongoose News, Central Ohio

>Patient’s-rights Service. Originator of The Support Network (for injury

>victims of laparoscopic cholecystectomy) 1562 Picard Road, Columbus,

Ohio 43227-3296 (614) 235-0421

>

>In the winter of 1990-91 laparoscopic cholecystectomy was introduced in

>Ohio. The newspapers ran articles extolling the virtues of this new

>technology saying: " Patients recover faster and return to work sooner [snip

to end]

I just loved reading this report. Perhaps it should be required reading for

people when they join the list. Agnes, if my experience is any guide you

should get ready for the trolls and surgeon-apologists.

Regards,

Rex Harrill

[Guest guest]

> There are good doctors/surgeons, and bad (well meaning, but inept

or

> unknowledgable), and the trick is figuring out the difference.

Just don't go to the hospital up the street from me. They are known

for having botched surgies with their laproscopics. My Aunt workds

for a Dr that has to fix them up all the time.

The more I talk with people about their hospital experience and not

just with galbladder the scarier it gets.

Found out my nephew almost died and the parents found out the truth

about what went wrong by accident, from a nurse. Dr.s were trying to

cover it up.

Just found out how my Grandma died do to medical negligence.

IHospitals are becomming a very scary place these days. Especially

with HMO.

[Guest guest]

Iatrogenic death is death caused by doctors, either by botched

procedures or drug reactions from incorrect prescribing...one million

people die each year in the US alone from iatrogenic causes. The only

thing close to that is death from heart disease, also one million

annually in the US. Both are easily prevented if we had intelligence

in the training of physicians...like nurtitional training. Few doctors

have the faintest idea what herbs do because they refuse to even

consider them as tools for health in medical schools. Most doctors

consider themselves gods and will tell you so when you question their

intelligence. Be sure to educate yourself BEFORE speaking with one.

>

> > There are good doctors/surgeons, and bad (well meaning, but inept

> or

> > unknowledgable), and the trick is figuring out the difference.

>

> Just don't go to the hospital up the street from me. They are known

> for having botched surgies with their laproscopics. My Aunt workds

> for a Dr that has to fix them up all the time.

>

> The more I talk with people about their hospital experience and not

> just with galbladder the scarier it gets.

>

> Found out my nephew almost died and the parents found out the truth

> about what went wrong by accident, from a nurse. Dr.s were trying to

> cover it up.

>

> Just found out how my Grandma died do to medical negligence.

> IHospitals are becomming a very scary place these days. Especially

> with HMO.

[Guest guest]

The one million figure came from a Schulze lecture.

>

>

> >>one million

> people die each year in the US alone from iatrogenic causes.<<

>

> Just wondering what your source is for this.

>

> We definitely have some problems, but it is worse in sme places.

Last

> January, I was talking to a medical student from Chile. He was

telling me

> about the on-the -job training he gets. He learned to do stitched

whem

> someone came in with a gash in their leg, and he was just told to

stitch it.

> That's how they learn a lot of stuff. He couldn't wait until he

would

> have the opportunity to come to this country to learn.

>

> It is true that nutritional education plays way to small a part in

medical

> training here. I think it is changing, but until recently, a person

could

> become a doctor without ever taking a class in nutrition. HELLO!!!

Semm to

> be pretty much common sense that our nutrition would affect ouf

health.

>

> Debra

>

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