Guest guest Posted June 12, 2000 Report Share Posted June 12, 2000 Casey wrote: > I have to say I agree with you.. they have, at school, also been > talking about putting Aari on " meds " because he has some > behaviors they don't like.... > ...I have to wonder how much of it is a learned thing with him, > living with a very hyper ADHD brother and in a class with a kiddo > with autism, a kiddo with PDD, a kiddo with TBI who has some > very outragious behaviors and so on (thankfully he isn't in this class > all day, I'm sure it would be worse if he was).. these kids gets > attention for theses behaviors so why not do them if you want > attention. A lot of his behaviors he does in class he does not do at > home. Casey: I'd tend to agree that much of Aari's behaviors could be due to copying others in the classroom. We ('s teacher, myself and other family members) have always said what a mimic is. And Judith Bluestone commented during her evaluation that was a smart little cookie, and that is probably because she learned so much through her copying. At her ACR, the teacher said that it is not in 's nature NOT to copy. Sort of by accident was in a class last year that had kids with some behavioral issues. would copy them simply because she could not stop herself. He felt there was no attempt at attention-getting, just learning. said he feels is " compelled to copy " . He recommends that a concerted effort be made for to be placed in a classroom with better role models for appropriate behaviors next year. The copying was one reason I refused to place her in the township's schools instead of the Deaf School. The township school would have placed her in with autistic behaviors, a child with severe (almost non-responsive) CP, etc. At the Deaf School she is in an inclusive environment. She and the teacher just got the luck of the draw that so many children with behavior issues were put together. I'd really dig my heels in about meds for behaviors for Aari. I've heard, seen, read, and spoken with many CHARGErs' parents who say that their child copies all the time. Makes sense that maybe the origins of some behaviors are a result of " peer input " and copying, as opposed to inherent behavior issues. Just my 2 cents worth! Friends in CHARGE, Marilyn Ogan Mom of Ken (10) and (7 - CHARGE+), Wife of Rick Indianapolis, IN oganm@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2000 Report Share Posted June 12, 2000 In a message dated 6/12/00 7:54:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, oganm@... writes: << Makes sense that maybe the origins of some behaviors are a result of " peer input " and copying, as opposed to inherent behavior issues. >> Only my 2 cents but my son Mark has never really gave a hoot what the others were up too. He pretty much does his own thing. Not much into mimicking others. He was at the center for severely impaired several times and this concern came up but it doesn't seem to affect him a whole lot. He will be back there for the summer because it is the only building with summer services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2000 Report Share Posted June 13, 2000 Marilyn & everyone else re behaviors, meds, etc: I remember something Judith Bluestone said (many of you know her & Handle Institute): ALL behaviors are for a reason. they are trying to tell us something or deal with something in their own way. I think also they are using their own coping mechanisms, whether stim-ing, etc. They need to work through this, and meds does not afford them this opportunity. Food for thought... Barbra M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2000 Report Share Posted June 13, 2000 In a message dated 6/13/2000 7:48:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, charge@... writes: << Oh and the latest from the school.. Aari can't go on the swim trip tomorrow unless I go too... seems the reg ed teachers are afraid something might happen to him with 60 other kids there.. hmm interesting that they are worried about him but not the 20 or more kids that will be going that can't swim (Aari can).. as far as I know the other SPED kids that are going don't have to have their Mom's with them.. sheeshe... off tot he school this morn to figure this one out.. >> CASEY, Hi, we met in Houston...This sounds VERY familiar. I was a bit insulted when 's 5th grade teacher said she was afraid to take on the class trip to Yosemite. She was afraid he'd slip off an icy hill or something. Neither his Dad nor I could go, so missed out, then had to sit there in class and see their slide show of how fun it was. GRRR. This year his 6th grade class went to Astro camp. Again the teacher (a different, great one0 called me in and said she had some concerns about going. I stated again we couln't go, but that was going, and if they needed an aide for him, they were welcome to do that. Turns out they took his resource teacher to help him. On return, they all said he was fantastic the whole time! :-) FWIW, Barbra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2000 Report Share Posted June 13, 2000 Larry has been schooled in special ed nearly the whole time and has been surrounded by children with lots of odd behaviours but has never mimicked. His tics where always his own and always triggered by an intolerance to medication. Jan Hewitson Re: Autism and Charge > In a message dated 6/12/00 7:54:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, oganm@... > writes: > > << Makes sense that maybe the origins of some behaviors > are a result of " peer input " and copying, as opposed to inherent behavior > issues. >> > Only my 2 cents but my son Mark has never really gave a hoot what the others > were up too. He pretty much does his own thing. Not much into mimicking > others. He was at the center for severely impaired several times and this > concern came up but it doesn't seem to affect him a whole lot. He will be > back there for the summer because it is the only building with summer > services. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! > 1. Fill in the brief application > 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds > 3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR > http://click./1/5197/2/_/22564/_/960855018/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member please > contact marion@... or visit > the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page > at http://www.chargesyndrome.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2000 Report Share Posted June 13, 2000 Marilyn, Believe me Aari wont be put on meds, his doc disagrees with the school so that's no problem, even the new school district psychologist disagrees with the teachers and principal. Ran into a mom at the grocery store last night and she was having a coniption about her son (autistic) and Aari, seems they have a problem when near each other.. Aari doesn't like him and will ignore him but the kido has a thing about poking people lately and when he pokes Aari he responds... well DUH if I was 8yo and some kids was poking and hitting me I'd respond too.. I asked her what I was supposed to do tell Aari to stand there and let the kid bruise him up ? So I'm working on Aari just staying away from he kid.. His aide says he tries but this kid focuses on Aari, he's also taken to trying to poke me when I put Aari on the bus in the morn. Oh and the latest from the school.. Aari can't go on the swim trip tomorrow unless I go too... seems the reg ed teachers are afraid something might happen to him with 60 other kids there.. hmm interesting that they are worried about him but not the 20 or more kids that will be going that can't swim (Aari can).. as far as I know the other SPED kids that are going don't have to have their Mom's with them.. sheeshe... off tot he school this morn to figure this one out.. Casey Mom to Dawn 21 HH, Ken 10 ADHD, 8 CHARGE ICQ 728514 AIM ZeeCasey CHARGE Web Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/1220 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2000 Report Share Posted June 13, 2000 Bonnie, Thanks, Aari sounds a lot like Patti... I have been wondering about insisting on a reg ed placement with a teacher that is receptive and more structured.. I love his teacher but with all that's going on in that classroom it's not real structured and I'm constantly telling her that she has got to stop babying him. The teacher he's going to have for summer school has a totally different way of teaching so we'll see if that makes a difference. Casey Mom to Dawn 21 HH, Ken 10 ADHD, 8 CHARGE ICQ 728514 AIM ZeeCasey CHARGE Web Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/1220 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2000 Report Share Posted June 13, 2000 Barbra, I guess what is getting to me is that they are sounding more and more like they are hiding their ignorance and fear behind their " concern " .. for crying out loud they are going swimming in a pool with 2 lifeguards, less than half a mile from my house, I have a cell phone and a pager, it'snot like they couldn't get a hold of me.. why not give it a try ?? and then holler at me if it's not working (which I know it will, heck this is the kid that jumped off the side of our boat a couple weeks ago in the middle of the lake, he's not gonna be intimidated by a swimming pool) I'm going down to the school in a bit and will let you all know how this one pans out.. Casey Mom to Dawn 21 HH, Ken 10 ADHD, 8 CHARGE ICQ 728514 AIM ZeeCasey CHARGE Web Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/1220 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2000 Report Share Posted June 13, 2000 In a message dated 6/13/2000 8:57:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, charge@... writes: << I'm going down to the school in a bit and will let you all know how this one pans out.. >> good luck Casey. He HAS to go, they need to see... Barbra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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