Re: Anyone EVER use or look into using medical marijuana for pain/nausea/appetite help?

[Guest guest]

Hi Dorothy,

 

You can ask for a Rx and it is called Miranol. It is medicinal marijuana and is

given to patients in the nursing homes and eslewhere. You might also try 600 mg

of ibuprofen. Sometimes the antinflammatory action is all you need. I have

also found if a dementia patient is anxious, it appears to be pain. You might a

small dose of xanax if she isn't already taking it. My patients in hospice have

used each and all of these.

To: LBDcaregivers

Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:13 PM

Subject: Anyone EVER use or look into using medical marijuana

for pain/nausea/appetite help?

 

It’s might be a loaded question and if so I apologize. I live in CA where

medical marijuana is legal though I have no idea how to access it for my mil or

if it’s something that anyone has ever tried. This last week my mil has had

two occasions of pain that the pain medicines I have on hand were almost not

enough for. The episode last night especially was unsettling and I almost took

her to ER. She came into this mess allergic to fentynal and she is very

sensitive to other opiates. She tolerates vicodine (hydrocodone) but at small

doses it makes her extremely nauseas even with zofran and also I think maybe a

little agitated. At enough medicine to manage her pain last night she was so

sick to her stomach with a headache – another side effect from the vicodine. I

am told the next one to try is morphine and as I sat with her trying to sooth

her while the medicine was (hopefully) working, I wondered what if that

doesn’t work? What then? I have heard

of two other patients with Parkinson’s and dementia that morphine did not

work for – it made them very sleepy but they still had pain when they were

awake. Only sleeping was a way to be free of pain. Last night her body was

shaking with the parkinsons and the pain was unbearable. It took two hours to

finally have enough vicodine and mirapex to allow her to doze lightly but the

pain was still breaking through time to time. The medicines have made today

miserable for her and have diminished her usual great appetite considerably. She

is constipated already (despite double miralax) and sick to her stomach despite

the zofran.

So I’m wondering if anyone has ever thought of or looked into or asked their

neurologist about or maybe even tried medical marijuana? Certainly smoking it is

out – however I understand it can be taken orally too – made into cookies or

a syrup and given that way? What I’m imagining is if I could obtain a form of

it in a syrup and then try a tiny amount at a time and see if it helped.

Thanks for the input

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Dorothy-

I applaud you for this effort - it's medicinal and if it works more power to you

and comfort to mil !!

Judy R. Strauss LMSW PhD

Lead Faculty

University of Phoenix

Jersey City Campus

100 Town Square Place

|Jersey City, NJ 07310

Cell-

Email- Jrstr@...

> It’s might be a loaded question and if so I apologize. I live in CA where

medical marijuana is legal though I have no idea how to access it for my mil or

if it’s something that anyone has ever tried. This last week my mil has had

two occasions of pain that the pain medicines I have on hand were almost not

enough for. The episode last night especially was unsettling and I almost took

her to ER. She came into this mess allergic to fentynal and she is very

sensitive to other opiates. She tolerates vicodine (hydrocodone) but at small

doses it makes her extremely nauseas even with zofran and also I think maybe a

little agitated. At enough medicine to manage her pain last night she was so

sick to her stomach with a headache – another side effect from the vicodine. I

am told the next one to try is morphine and as I sat with her trying to sooth

her while the medicine was (hopefully) working, I wondered what if that

doesn’t work? What then? I have heard of two other patients with Parkinson’s

and dementia that morphine did not work for – it made them very sleepy but

they still had pain when they were awake. Only sleeping was a way to be free of

pain. Last night her body was shaking with the parkinsons and the pain was

unbearable. It took two hours to finally have enough vicodine and mirapex to

allow her to doze lightly but the pain was still breaking through time to time.

The medicines have made today miserable for her and have diminished her usual

great appetite considerably. She is constipated already (despite double miralax)

and sick to her stomach despite the zofran.

>

> So I’m wondering if anyone has ever thought of or looked into or asked their

neurologist about or maybe even tried medical marijuana? Certainly smoking it is

out – however I understand it can be taken orally too – made into cookies or

a syrup and given that way? What I’m imagining is if I could obtain a form of

it in a syrup and then try a tiny amount at a time and see if it helped.

>

> Thanks for the input

>

> Dorothy

>

>

[Guest guest]

How about some Miranol for the caregivers ??lol

Judy R. Strauss LMSW PhD

Lead Faculty

University of Phoenix

Jersey City Campus

100 Town Square Place

|Jersey City, NJ 07310

Cell-

Email- Jrstr@...

> Hi Dorothy,

>

> You can ask for a Rx and it is called Miranol. It is medicinal marijuana and

is given to patients in the nursing homes and eslewhere. You might also try 600

mg of ibuprofen. Sometimes the antinflammatory action is all you need. I have

also found if a dementia patient is anxious, it appears to be pain. You might a

small dose of xanax if she isn't already taking it. My patients in hospice have

used each and all of these.

>

>

> To: LBDcaregivers

> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:13 PM

> Subject: Anyone EVER use or look into using medical marijuana

for pain/nausea/appetite help?

>

>

> It’s might be a loaded question and if so I apologize. I live in CA where

medical marijuana is legal though I have no idea how to access it for my mil or

if it’s something that anyone has ever tried. This last week my mil has had

two occasions of pain that the pain medicines I have on hand were almost not

enough for. The episode last night especially was unsettling and I almost took

her to ER. She came into this mess allergic to fentynal and she is very

sensitive to other opiates. She tolerates vicodine (hydrocodone) but at small

doses it makes her extremely nauseas even with zofran and also I think maybe a

little agitated. At enough medicine to manage her pain last night she was so

sick to her stomach with a headache – another side effect from the vicodine. I

am told the next one to try is morphine and as I sat with her trying to sooth

her while the medicine was (hopefully) working, I wondered what if that

doesn’t work? What then? I have heard

> of two other patients with Parkinson’s and dementia that morphine did not

work for – it made them very sleepy but they still had pain when they were

awake. Only sleeping was a way to be free of pain. Last night her body was

shaking with the parkinsons and the pain was unbearable. It took two hours to

finally have enough vicodine and mirapex to allow her to doze lightly but the

pain was still breaking through time to time. The medicines have made today

miserable for her and have diminished her usual great appetite considerably. She

is constipated already (despite double miralax) and sick to her stomach despite

the zofran.

>

> So I’m wondering if anyone has ever thought of or looked into or asked their

neurologist about or maybe even tried medical marijuana? Certainly smoking it is

out – however I understand it can be taken orally too – made into cookies or

a syrup and given that way? What I’m imagining is if I could obtain a form of

it in a syrup and then try a tiny amount at a time and see if it helped.

>

> Thanks for the input

>

> Dorothy

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOL – then we’d be laughing and eating twinkies all day.

From: Judy

Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:44 PM

To: LBDcaregivers

Subject: Re: Anyone EVER use or look into using medical

marijuana for pain/nausea/appetite help?

How about some Miranol for the caregivers ??lol

Judy R. Strauss LMSW PhD

Lead Faculty

University of Phoenix

Jersey City Campus

100 Town Square Place

|Jersey City, NJ 07310

Cell-

Email- mailto:Jrstr%40email.Phoenix.edu

On Oct 25, 2011, at 7:58 PM, s <mailto:karenjo918%40yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Dorothy,

>

> You can ask for a Rx and it is called Miranol. It is medicinal marijuana and

is given to patients in the nursing homes and eslewhere. You might also try 600

mg of ibuprofen. Sometimes the antinflammatory action is all you need. I have

also found if a dementia patient is anxious, it appears to be pain. You might a

small dose of xanax if she isn't already taking it. My patients in hospice have

used each and all of these.

>

> From: dsinouye <mailto:fullcircle%40sonic.net>

> To: mailto:LBDcaregivers%40yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:13 PM

> Subject: Anyone EVER use or look into using medical marijuana

for pain/nausea/appetite help?

>

>

> It’s might be a loaded question and if so I apologize. I live in CA where

medical marijuana is legal though I have no idea how to access it for my mil or

if it’s something that anyone has ever tried. This last week my mil has had

two occasions of pain that the pain medicines I have on hand were almost not

enough for. The episode last night especially was unsettling and I almost took

her to ER. She came into this mess allergic to fentynal and she is very

sensitive to other opiates. She tolerates vicodine (hydrocodone) but at small

doses it makes her extremely nauseas even with zofran and also I think maybe a

little agitated. At enough medicine to manage her pain last night she was so

sick to her stomach with a headache – another side effect from the vicodine. I

am told the next one to try is morphine and as I sat with her trying to sooth

her while the medicine was (hopefully) working, I wondered what if that

doesn’t work? What then? I have heard

> of two other patients with Parkinson’s and dementia that morphine did not

work for – it made them very sleepy but they still had pain when they were

awake. Only sleeping was a way to be free of pain. Last night her body was

shaking with the parkinsons and the pain was unbearable. It took two hours to

finally have enough vicodine and mirapex to allow her to doze lightly but the

pain was still breaking through time to time. The medicines have made today

miserable for her and have diminished her usual great appetite considerably. She

is constipated already (despite double miralax) and sick to her stomach despite

the zofran.

>

> So I’m wondering if anyone has ever thought of or looked into or asked their

neurologist about or maybe even tried medical marijuana? Certainly smoking it is

out – however I understand it can be taken orally too – made into cookies or

a syrup and given that way? What I’m imagining is if I could obtain a form of

it in a syrup and then try a tiny amount at a time and see if it helped.

>

> Thanks for the input

>

> Dorothy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there -

Thanks for getting my humor !!

Judy R. Strauss LMSW PhD

Lead Faculty

University of Phoenix

Jersey City Campus

100 Town Square Place

|Jersey City, NJ 07310

Cell-

Email- Jrstr@...

> LOL – then we’d be laughing and eating twinkies all day.

>

> From: Judy

> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:44 PM

> To: LBDcaregivers

> Subject: Re: Anyone EVER use or look into using medical

marijuana for pain/nausea/appetite help?

>

> How about some Miranol for the caregivers ??lol

>

> Judy R. Strauss LMSW PhD

>

> Lead Faculty

> University of Phoenix

>

> Jersey City Campus

> 100 Town Square Place

> |Jersey City, NJ 07310

> Cell-

> Email- mailto:Jrstr%40email.Phoenix.edu

>

> On Oct 25, 2011, at 7:58 PM, s <mailto:karenjo918%40yahoo.com>

wrote:

>

> > Hi Dorothy,

> >

> > You can ask for a Rx and it is called Miranol. It is medicinal marijuana and

is given to patients in the nursing homes and eslewhere. You might also try 600

mg of ibuprofen. Sometimes the antinflammatory action is all you need. I have

also found if a dementia patient is anxious, it appears to be pain. You might a

small dose of xanax if she isn't already taking it. My patients in hospice have

used each and all of these.

> >

> > From: dsinouye <mailto:fullcircle%40sonic.net>

> > To: mailto:LBDcaregivers%40yahoogroups.com

> > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:13 PM

> > Subject: Anyone EVER use or look into using medical

marijuana for pain/nausea/appetite help?

> >

> >

> > It’s might be a loaded question and if so I apologize. I live in CA where

medical marijuana is legal though I have no idea how to access it for my mil or

if it’s something that anyone has ever tried. This last week my mil has had

two occasions of pain that the pain medicines I have on hand were almost not

enough for. The episode last night especially was unsettling and I almost took

her to ER. She came into this mess allergic to fentynal and she is very

sensitive to other opiates. She tolerates vicodine (hydrocodone) but at small

doses it makes her extremely nauseas even with zofran and also I think maybe a

little agitated. At enough medicine to manage her pain last night she was so

sick to her stomach with a headache – another side effect from the vicodine. I

am told the next one to try is morphine and as I sat with her trying to sooth

her while the medicine was (hopefully) working, I wondered what if that

doesn’t work? What then? I have heard

> > of two other patients with Parkinson’s and dementia that morphine did not

work for – it made them very sleepy but they still had pain when they were

awake. Only sleeping was a way to be free of pain. Last night her body was

shaking with the parkinsons and the pain was unbearable. It took two hours to

finally have enough vicodine and mirapex to allow her to doze lightly but the

pain was still breaking through time to time. The medicines have made today

miserable for her and have diminished her usual great appetite considerably. She

is constipated already (despite double miralax) and sick to her stomach despite

the zofran.

> >

> > So I’m wondering if anyone has ever thought of or looked into or asked

their neurologist about or maybe even tried medical marijuana? Certainly smoking

it is out – however I understand it can be taken orally too – made into

cookies or a syrup and given that way? What I’m imagining is if I could obtain

a form of it in a syrup and then try a tiny amount at a time and see if it

helped.

> >

> > Thanks for the input

> >

> > Dorothy

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

What a way to go!!! LOL!!!!

>

> > Hi Dorothy,

> >

> > You can ask for a Rx and it is called Miranol. It is medicinal marijuana and

is given to patients in the nursing homes and eslewhere. You might also try 600

mg of ibuprofen. Sometimes the antinflammatory action is all you need. I have

also found if a dementia patient is anxious, it appears to be pain. You might a

small dose of xanax if she isn't already taking it. My patients in hospice have

used each and all of these.

> >

> > From: dsinouye <mailto:fullcircle%40sonic.net>

> > To: mailto:LBDcaregivers%40yahoogroups.com

> > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:13 PM

> > Subject: Anyone EVER use or look into using medical

marijuana for pain/nausea/appetite help?

> >

> >

> > It’s might be a loaded question and if so I apologize. I live in CA where

medical marijuana is legal though I have no idea how to access it for my mil or

if it’s something that anyone has ever tried. This last week my mil has had

two occasions of pain that the pain medicines I have on hand were almost not

enough for. The episode last night especially was unsettling and I almost took

her to ER. She came into this mess allergic to fentynal and she is very

sensitive to other opiates. She tolerates vicodine (hydrocodone) but at small

doses it makes her extremely nauseas even with zofran and also I think maybe a

little agitated. At enough medicine to manage her pain last night she was so

sick to her stomach with a headache †" another side effect from the vicodine. I

am told the next one to try is morphine and as I sat with her trying to sooth

her while the medicine was (hopefully) working, I wondered what if that

doesn’t work? What then? I have heard

> > of two other patients with Parkinson’s and dementia that morphine did not

work for †" it made them very sleepy but they still had pain when they were

awake. Only sleeping was a way to be free of pain. Last night her body was

shaking with the parkinsons and the pain was unbearable. It took two hours to

finally have enough vicodine and mirapex to allow her to doze lightly but the

pain was still breaking through time to time. The medicines have made today

miserable for her and have diminished her usual great appetite considerably. She

is constipated already (despite double miralax) and sick to her stomach despite

the zofran.

> >

> > So I’m wondering if anyone has ever thought of or looked into or asked

their neurologist about or maybe even tried medical marijuana? Certainly smoking

it is out †" however I understand it can be taken orally too †" made into

cookies or a syrup and given that way? What I’m imagining is if I could obtain

a form of it in a syrup and then try a tiny amount at a time and see if it

helped.

> >

> > Thanks for the input

> >

> > Dorothy

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Don't forget the chocolate!

Helene

> >

> > > Hi Dorothy,

> > >

> > > You can ask for a Rx and it is called Miranol. It is medicinal marijuana

and is given to patients in the nursing homes and eslewhere. You might also try

600 mg of ibuprofen. Sometimes the antinflammatory action is all you need. I

have also found if a dementia patient is anxious, it appears to be pain. You

might a small dose of xanax if she isn't already taking it. My patients in

hospice have used each and all of these.

> > >

> > > From: dsinouye <mailto:fullcircle%40sonic.net>;

> > > To: mailto:LBDcaregivers%40yahoogroups.com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:13 PM

> > > Subject: Anyone EVER use or look into using medical

marijuana for pain/nausea/appetite help?

> > >

> > >

> > > It’s might be a loaded question and if so I apologize. I live in CA

where medical marijuana is legal though I have no idea how to access it for my

mil or if it’s something that anyone has ever tried. This last week my mil

has had two occasions of pain that the pain medicines I have on hand were almost

not enough for. The episode last night especially was unsettling and I almost

took her to ER. She came into this mess allergic to fentynal and she is very

sensitive to other opiates. She tolerates vicodine (hydrocodone) but at small

doses it makes her extremely nauseas even with zofran and also I think maybe a

little agitated. At enough medicine to manage her pain last night she was so

sick to her stomach with a headache †" another side effect from the vicodine.

I am told the next one to try is morphine and as I sat with her trying to sooth

her while the medicine was (hopefully) working, I wondered what if that

doesn’t work? What then? I have heard

> > > of two other patients with Parkinson’s and dementia that morphine did

not work for †" it made them very sleepy but they still had pain when they

were awake. Only sleeping was a way to be free of pain. Last night her body was

shaking with the parkinsons and the pain was unbearable. It took two hours to

finally have enough vicodine and mirapex to allow her to doze lightly but the

pain was still breaking through time to time. The medicines have made today

miserable for her and have diminished her usual great appetite considerably. She

is constipated already (despite double miralax) and sick to her stomach despite

the zofran.

> > >

> > > So I’m wondering if anyone has ever thought of or looked into or

asked their neurologist about or maybe even tried medical marijuana? Certainly

smoking it is out †" however I understand it can be taken orally too †"

made into cookies or a syrup and given that way? What I’m imagining is if I

could obtain a form of it in a syrup and then try a tiny amount at a time and

see if it helped.

> > >

> > > Thanks for the input

> > >

> > > Dorothy

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Don't worry I'm putting together a menu from soup to nuts !

As caregivers I think we deserve the best !! Lol

Judy R. Strauss LMSW PhD

Lead Faculty

University of Phoenix

Jersey City Campus

100 Town Square Place

|Jersey City, NJ 07310

Cell-

Email- Jrstr@...

> Don't forget the chocolate!

> Helene

>

>

> > >

> > > > Hi Dorothy,

> > > >

> > > > You can ask for a Rx and it is called Miranol. It is medicinal marijuana

and is given to patients in the nursing homes and eslewhere. You might also try

600 mg of ibuprofen. Sometimes the antinflammatory action is all you need. I

have also found if a dementia patient is anxious, it appears to be pain. You

might a small dose of xanax if she isn't already taking it. My patients in

hospice have used each and all of these.

> > > >

> > > > From: dsinouye <mailto:fullcircle%40sonic.net>;

> > > > To: mailto:LBDcaregivers%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:13 PM

> > > > Subject: Anyone EVER use or look into using medical

marijuana for pain/nausea/appetite help?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It’s might be a loaded question and if so I apologize. I

live in CA where medical marijuana is legal though I have no idea how to access

it for my mil or if it’s something that anyone has ever tried. This

last week my mil has had two occasions of pain that the pain medicines I have on

hand were almost not enough for. The episode last night especially was

unsettling and I almost took her to ER. She came into this mess allergic to

fentynal and she is very sensitive to other opiates. She tolerates vicodine

(hydrocodone) but at small doses it makes her extremely nauseas even with zofran

and also I think maybe a little agitated. At enough medicine to manage her pain

last night she was so sick to her stomach with a headache †" another

side effect from the vicodine. I am told the next one to try is morphine and as

I sat with her trying to sooth her while the medicine was (hopefully) working, I

wondered what if that doesn’t work? What then? I have heard

> > > > of two other patients with Parkinson’s and dementia that

morphine did not work for †" it made them very sleepy but they still had

pain when they were awake. Only sleeping was a way to be free of pain. Last

night her body was shaking with the parkinsons and the pain was unbearable. It

took two hours to finally have enough vicodine and mirapex to allow her to doze

lightly but the pain was still breaking through time to time. The medicines have

made today miserable for her and have diminished her usual great appetite

considerably. She is constipated already (despite double miralax) and sick to

her stomach despite the zofran.

> > > >

> > > > So I’m wondering if anyone has ever thought of or looked

into or asked their neurologist about or maybe even tried medical marijuana?

Certainly smoking it is out †" however I understand it can be taken

orally too †" made into cookies or a syrup and given that way? What

I’m imagining is if I could obtain a form of it in a syrup and then

try a tiny amount at a time and see if it helped.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the input

> > > >

> > > > Dorothy

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hey Dorothy

I want to thank you for starting this conversation - some comic relief is

medicinal ! And if we can get the medicinal pills to our Los and our own routine

it's a no brainer.

Keep is informed if you get some for mil -

And how she reacts - this could be a new research angle -

Judy R. Strauss LMSW PhD

Lead Faculty

University of Phoenix

Jersey City Campus

100 Town Square Place

|Jersey City, NJ 07310

Cell-

Email- Jrstr@...

> Don't worry I'm putting together a menu from soup to nuts !

> As caregivers I think we deserve the best !! Lol

>

> Judy R. Strauss LMSW PhD

>

> Lead Faculty

> University of Phoenix

>

> Jersey City Campus

> 100 Town Square Place

> |Jersey City, NJ 07310

> Cell-

> Email- Jrstr@...

>

>

>

>

> > Don't forget the chocolate!

> > Helene

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Dorothy,

> > > > >

> > > > > You can ask for a Rx and it is called Miranol. It is medicinal

marijuana and is given to patients in the nursing homes and eslewhere. You might

also try 600 mg of ibuprofen. Sometimes the antinflammatory action is all you

need. I have also found if a dementia patient is anxious, it appears to be pain.

You might a small dose of xanax if she isn't already taking it. My patients in

hospice have used each and all of these.

> > > > >

> > > > > From: dsinouye <mailto:fullcircle%40sonic.net>;

> > > > > To: mailto:LBDcaregivers%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:13 PM

> > > > > Subject: Anyone EVER use or look into using medical

marijuana for pain/nausea/appetite help?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It’s might be a loaded question and if so I apologize. I

live in CA where medical marijuana is legal though I have no idea how to access

it for my mil or if it’s something that anyone has ever tried. This

last week my mil has had two occasions of pain that the pain medicines I have on

hand were almost not enough for. The episode last night especially was

unsettling and I almost took her to ER. She came into this mess allergic to

fentynal and she is very sensitive to other opiates. She tolerates vicodine

(hydrocodone) but at small doses it makes her extremely nauseas even with zofran

and also I think maybe a little agitated. At enough medicine to manage her pain

last night she was so sick to her stomach with a headache †" another

side effect from the vicodine. I am told the next one to try is morphine and as

I sat with her trying to sooth her while the medicine was (hopefully) working, I

wondered what if that doesn’t work? What then? I have heard

> > > > > of two other patients with Parkinson’s and dementia that

morphine did not work for †" it made them very sleepy but they still had

pain when they were awake. Only sleeping was a way to be free of pain. Last

night her body was shaking with the parkinsons and the pain was unbearable. It

took two hours to finally have enough vicodine and mirapex to allow her to doze

lightly but the pain was still breaking through time to time. The medicines have

made today miserable for her and have diminished her usual great appetite

considerably. She is constipated already (despite double miralax) and sick to

her stomach despite the zofran.

> > > > >

> > > > > So I’m wondering if anyone has ever thought of or looked

into or asked their neurologist about or maybe even tried medical marijuana?

Certainly smoking it is out †" however I understand it can be taken

orally too †" made into cookies or a syrup and given that way? What

I’m imagining is if I could obtain a form of it in a syrup and then

try a tiny amount at a time and see if it helped.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the input

> > > > >

> > > > > Dorothy

> > > > >

> > > > >