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I am new to the group. I've been on the LBDA forum, but came here because I'm

looking for more. My mom is in the late to mid-late stage of LBD with

Parkinsonism and Alzheimer's. We moved her to an SNF a year ago.

I think that sometimes we forget about how this dementia fluctuates. Mom can't

speak, either. Oh, sometimes she gets a word out - sometimes even part of a

sentence. But it only frustrates her more that she can't make herself

understood. When someone can't express herself, and her ability with ADLs seems

to be gone (but comes back without notice), it is easy to forget, or not be

aware of just how much she does understand. I believe that there are times when

our loved ones are very much aware of what is happening and how much they have

lost. I once tried to explain to Mom who I was and I know she pictured me at 5

years old. I'm 58. What a shock for her! And then for her to realize that so

much of her life is missing.

Mom cries a lot. She cries out of sadness, fear, frustration over not being

able to tell us what she needs or what hurts, and, of course, depression. I

know she'd like to leave this life, but no longer has the ability to do anything

about it. She has to trust her daughters, who are strangers to her. I'd be

constantly crying, myself, in her position.

I don't think there is anything we can do to make things better. I had to just

leave Mom last night, crying herself to sleep. Sometimes I don't think I can

bear it, but I know I have no choice - not without abandoning Mom and I would

never do that. I'm slowly learning to just let her cry. Maybe there is some

relief for her in her tears.

I know it's no solution, and all we are able to do is to try to endure it. But

I also think that the tears are valuable as an outlet for Mom. Kind of like a

pressure valve. Thank goodness there are places where we can share our own

frustration.

>

> Do Lewy Body Patients do a lot of crying? I have not been on line for

> a while, it is so busy trying to keep up with working, helping at the

> Nursing Home where Dad is, and keeping up at home, etc. I know I

> could keep going but know you all are going through the same thing.

> They told me back in June, my Dad had LBD, and he would only live 3 to

> 6 months. Last week was the start of the fifth month. He seems to

> spend a lot of time crying. Tonight at the NH that's all he did, and

> when I left all I did was cry. I understand LBD is a roller coaster

> ride, dealing with Dad since 2002 I truly can say I understand why

> they call it a roller coaster ride. All the ups and downs, one minute

> to the next can be different. It is truly hard to understand. I just

> wonder if any one else was dealing with the crying stage? Thanks for

> your help. I wish every care giver the best in taking care of their

> love one.

>

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Judy, 

Please don't take for granted that your Mom doesn't understand just because she

can't do some things.  Mom could understand right up to the end if I asked the

questions she could just respond with a yes or no.  She did know wha t was

happening.  And all the things you are telling her are important.  I am sure

she appreciates hearing you love her and know she loved you.

Hugs,

Donna R

Crying

 

Hello All

I had a report today from my moms health care aid that for the first time in 2

yrs today my mother who is on home hospice care started crying! out of the blue

- for no apparent reason ! It broke my heart!

My mother is completely mute and cognitively gone - totally dependent on 24/7

care for all her ADLs. Doesn't recognize us!

We feel relief - perhaps she is unaware of what's happening!

Over the last months I talk to her as if she could still understand - I tell her

things like - the parkinsons ( not LBD ) has gotten worse - I assure her we are

ok and how loved she is - what a wonderful mom she is and was ! I often tear up

- yet she always stares at the tv and seems not to comprehend !

I wonder if anyone could give me any insight into what would make someone in

late stage LBD cry for no apparent reason ??

Thank you!

Judy R. Strauss LMSW PhD

Lead Faculty

University of Phoenix

Jersey City Campus

100 Town Square Place

|Jersey City, NJ 07310

Cell-

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Hi Donna

Thanks !

Judy R. Strauss LMSW PhD

Lead Faculty

University of Phoenix

Jersey City Campus

100 Town Square Place

|Jersey City, NJ 07310

Cell-

Email- Jrstr@...

>

>

> Judy,

>

> Please don't take for granted that your Mom doesn't understand just because

she can't do some things. Mom could understand right up to the end if I asked

the questions she could just respond with a yes or no. She did know wha t was

happening. And all the things you are telling her are important. I am sure she

appreciates hearing you love her and know she loved you.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Donna R

>

> Crying

>

>

>

> Hello All

>

> I had a report today from my moms health care aid that for the first time in 2

yrs today my mother who is on home hospice care started crying! out of the blue

- for no apparent reason ! It broke my heart!

>

> My mother is completely mute and cognitively gone - totally dependent on 24/7

care for all her ADLs. Doesn't recognize us!

>

> We feel relief - perhaps she is unaware of what's happening!

>

> Over the last months I talk to her as if she could still understand - I tell

her things like - the parkinsons ( not LBD ) has gotten worse - I assure her we

are ok and how loved she is - what a wonderful mom she is and was ! I often tear

up - yet she always stares at the tv and seems not to comprehend !

>

> I wonder if anyone could give me any insight into what would make someone in

late stage LBD cry for no apparent reason ??

>

> Thank you!

>

> Judy R. Strauss LMSW PhD

>

> Lead Faculty

> University of Phoenix

>

> Jersey City Campus

> 100 Town Square Place

> |Jersey City, NJ 07310

> Cell-

> Email- Jrstr@...

>

>

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Thanks - I like your analogy of a pressure valve and the tears!

Judy R. Strauss LMSW PhD

Lead Faculty

University of Phoenix

Jersey City Campus

100 Town Square Place

|Jersey City, NJ 07310

Cell-

Email- Jrstr@...

> I am new to the group. I've been on the LBDA forum, but came here because I'm

looking for more. My mom is in the late to mid-late stage of LBD with

Parkinsonism and Alzheimer's. We moved her to an SNF a year ago.

>

> I think that sometimes we forget about how this dementia fluctuates. Mom can't

speak, either. Oh, sometimes she gets a word out - sometimes even part of a

sentence. But it only frustrates her more that she can't make herself

understood. When someone can't express herself, and her ability with ADLs seems

to be gone (but comes back without notice), it is easy to forget, or not be

aware of just how much she does understand. I believe that there are times when

our loved ones are very much aware of what is happening and how much they have

lost. I once tried to explain to Mom who I was and I know she pictured me at 5

years old. I'm 58. What a shock for her! And then for her to realize that so

much of her life is missing.

>

> Mom cries a lot. She cries out of sadness, fear, frustration over not being

able to tell us what she needs or what hurts, and, of course, depression. I know

she'd like to leave this life, but no longer has the ability to do anything

about it. She has to trust her daughters, who are strangers to her. I'd be

constantly crying, myself, in her position.

>

> I don't think there is anything we can do to make things better. I had to just

leave Mom last night, crying herself to sleep. Sometimes I don't think I can

bear it, but I know I have no choice - not without abandoning Mom and I would

never do that. I'm slowly learning to just let her cry. Maybe there is some

relief for her in her tears.

>

> I know it's no solution, and all we are able to do is to try to endure it. But

I also think that the tears are valuable as an outlet for Mom. Kind of like a

pressure valve. Thank goodness there are places where we can share our own

frustration.

>

>

> >

> > Do Lewy Body Patients do a lot of crying? I have not been on line for

> > a while, it is so busy trying to keep up with working, helping at the

> > Nursing Home where Dad is, and keeping up at home, etc. I know I

> > could keep going but know you all are going through the same thing.

> > They told me back in June, my Dad had LBD, and he would only live 3 to

> > 6 months. Last week was the start of the fifth month. He seems to

> > spend a lot of time crying. Tonight at the NH that's all he did, and

> > when I left all I did was cry. I understand LBD is a roller coaster

> > ride, dealing with Dad since 2002 I truly can say I understand why

> > they call it a roller coaster ride. All the ups and downs, one minute

> > to the next can be different. It is truly hard to understand. I just

> > wonder if any one else was dealing with the crying stage? Thanks for

> > your help. I wish every care giver the best in taking care of their

> > love one.

> >

>

>

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Kathy,

In general, antidepressants are very effective at reducing or ending the crying.

And, if she's in a dementia care facility, hopefully the staff has been trained

to address residents' fear.

Robin

>

....

> Mom cries a lot. She cries out of sadness, fear, frustration over not being

able to tell us what she needs or what hurts, and, of course, depression. I

know she'd like to leave this life, but no longer has the ability to do anything

about it. She has to trust her daughters, who are strangers to her. I'd be

constantly crying, myself, in her position.

>

> I don't think there is anything we can do to make things better.....

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