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My mom has been taking morphine – dilaudid for years now. If you father is

thrashing I would definitely give him the morphine. Sending you all strength.

Courage

From: Hanley

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 7:18 AM

To: lbdcaregivers

Subject: drug question

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Now I have figured out all the contraindicated drugs - Hospice gave Dad

Lorazapan and he had very agitated night - I learned that they give morphine and

other drugs as a person is dying - is it OK to give someone that is in the

process of death and close to death all these drugs that they are not supposed

to have ?

How can I person die comfortably of LBD - this is very traumatic to see the

thrashing and shaking bed, etc.

mailto:hanleylin%40aol.com

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Dear ,

I hate that your dad is so uncomfortable. My mother had a peaceful ending with

a small amount of dilaudid her last 3 weeks.

It did not appear to have any negative side effects.

The best possible to you and your dad.

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Lorazapan and he had very agitated night - I learned that they give morphine and

other drugs as a person is dying - is it OK to give someone that is in the

process of death and close to death all these drugs that they are not supposed

to have ?

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thrashing and shaking bed, etc.

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, I am so sorry your father is having such a rough time - and you and

everyone else as well.

Do you know how much Lorazapan they gave your father? Do they understand

the need to start off VERY low with ANYTHING and then WAIT and see ? I can

give my mother in law a very small amount of ativan (no more than .25 ml in

a dropper - which is about 4-5 drops) and it helps her. Anymore than that

at a time and she gets agitated and delirious and restless. I imagine it

could be the same with the morphine or halodol or other drugs hospice uses

when used with an LBD patient who is drug sensative. We are going to start

hospice because we cannot get pain management from her doctor unless she is

in hospice. I am dreading all the experimentation this is going to bring

but the start very low rule is one I'm going to follow.

All I can suggest is keep track of how much of what drug is given - have

them write it on a log in a notebook where it's easy to access. And make

sure they start off very low on anything. They can always give a little

more - a few more drops - and see if there's a dose that the drug works or

not.

I hope someone with more experience will be able to suggest something more

concrete.

-Dorothy

From: LBDcaregivers [mailto:LBDcaregivers ]

On Behalf Of Hanley

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 4:19 AM

To: lbdcaregivers

Subject: drug question

OK

Now I have figured out all the contraindicated drugs - Hospice gave Dad

Lorazapan and he had very agitated night - I learned that they give morphine

and other drugs as a person is dying - is it OK to give someone that is in

the process of death and close to death all these drugs that they are not

supposed to have ?

How can I person die comfortably of LBD - this is very traumatic to see the

thrashing and shaking bed, etc.

hanleylin@... <mailto:hanleylin%40aol.com>

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