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Hi Olga,

From what I understood in a past post is that your husband has to use stairs to

get to the bathroom on another floor.

Have you looked into a commode, so you can keep the toilet in his room on the

floor where you live, so he doesn't have to use

stairs? http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/drive-medical-folding-bedside-commode-s\

eat-with-commode-bucket-and-splash-guard-/ID=prod6041787-product I am not sure

where you live and if you can find something like this, but if you could, it

would be helpful, so your husband doesn't have to use stairs. It has a bucket

under the seat. You would have to clean it, but as one person suggested, use a

garbage bag to line the bucket and just dispose of the bag. Of course, if your

husband is constantly sleeping, he won't be able to get on the toilet and you

will have to use other means for toileting issues.

If you have only a few steps, you could look into a portable

ramp:                                            

http://www.emedramps.com/products/Alumiramp-%252d-Ready-Ramp-.html

I rented one at first and then bought it.  It was worth its weight in gold to

us. When my husband walked, I helped him down the ramp and he used his walker,

so he didn't have to use the steps. It is skid free and has traction on it. When

he was in a wheelchair, I could get him in and out of the house. I also could

take it with me and where there were a few steps, I could get him up the ramp to

visit friends.

Jan Colello

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To: LBDcaregivers

Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 2:28 PM

Subject: Re: Re: this list

Olga,

You have got to call social services or senior services now.  The may even

be able to convince your landlord to allow modifications like a chair lift

for the stairs.  A hoist doesn't require any home modification.  And you

need an aide/attendant to help with the heavy lifting.  Get your doctor to

help you with justifying the level of help needed.  Don't hold back.  Tell

them everything.

Kathy

Kate Knapp

> **

>

>

> Dear Vivian,

>

> Great attitude. Admire your courage and optimism. Myself, I'm not managing

> so well. My husband doesn't want to walk... for no reason... out of the

> blue. When he wandered off plenty before. The bedroom involves stairs, the

> bathroom involves stairs, the bath involves climbing into it. He's no baby,

> he's heavy. We live in a rented accommodation. I can perhaps ship him off

> to a home (how much? plus his family are stalling for incomprehensible

> reasons), in which case I cannot remain in ours (too expensive). I'm now

> more or less running out of excuses to send him to hospital. Before I could

> say he used to be mobile but it's now over 2 months that by the end of the

> week he lies down in the bed and refuses to do anything. And any

> disturbance is met with hostility. And I very much doubt he knows who I am.

> I'm often " the nasty boy " . It's an unfortunate combination of some unfunny

> charade against the background of poor financial planning. So, yes, I'm

> mightily discouraged and depressed, but I am trying to find some type of

> solution. I actually do not think the way things are, they benefit either

> me or (my husband).

> I would still insist that prayers are great but practical

> advice/experience is better.

> And I don't know how mature I am, is the second demented person in my

> life, but I certainly dislike being that uncertain (especially on behalf of

> another human being), whoever Finley is.

>

> Olga

>

>

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >> Dear people,

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >> I deeply commiserate with all on the list who lost their loved

> ones, but

> > > >

> > > >> where are the messages about trying to improve? Or do you feel this

> is

> > > all

> > > >

> > > >> about deterioration and praying much (I'm an atheist).

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >> Olga

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >>

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There is this kind of portable ramp to get over steps also: 

http://www.emedramps.com/modular-xp-ramps-with-free-handrails/

Of course, if the stairs  are many and steep, you will have to look into other

ways suggested here.

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To: " LBDcaregivers " <LBDcaregivers >

Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 8:37 PM

Subject: Re: Re: this list/Olga

Hi Olga,

From what I understood in a past post is that your husband has to use stairs to

get to the bathroom on another floor.

Have you looked into a commode, so you can keep the toilet in his room on the

floor where you live, so he doesn't have to use

stairs? http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/drive-medical-folding-bedside-commode-s\

eat-with-commode-bucket-and-splash-guard-/ID=prod6041787-product I am not sure

where you live and if you can find something like this, but if you could, it

would be helpful, so your husband doesn't have to use stairs. It has a bucket

under the seat. You would have to clean it, but as one person suggested, use a

garbage bag to line the bucket and just dispose of the bag. Of course, if your

husband is constantly sleeping, he won't be able to get on the toilet and you

will have to use other means for toileting issues.

If you have only a few steps, you could look into a portable

ramp:                                            

http://www.emedramps.com/products/Alumiramp-%252d-Ready-Ramp-.html

I rented one at first and then bought it.  It was worth its weight in gold to

us. When my husband walked, I helped him down the ramp and he used his walker,

so he didn't have to use the steps. It is skid free and has traction on it. When

he was in a wheelchair, I could get him in and out of the house. I also could

take it with me and where there were a few steps, I could get him up the ramp to

visit friends.

Jan Colello

________________________________

To: LBDcaregivers

Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 2:28 PM

Subject: Re: Re: this list

Olga,

You have got to call social services or senior services now.  The may even

be able to convince your landlord to allow modifications like a chair lift

for the stairs.  A hoist doesn't require any home modification.  And you

need an aide/attendant to help with the heavy lifting.  Get your doctor to

help you with justifying the level of help needed.  Don't hold back.  Tell

them everything.

Kathy

Kate Knapp

> **

>

>

> Dear Vivian,

>

> Great attitude. Admire your courage and optimism. Myself, I'm not managing

> so well. My husband doesn't want to walk... for no reason... out of the

> blue. When he wandered off plenty before. The bedroom involves stairs, the

> bathroom involves stairs, the bath involves climbing into it. He's no baby,

> he's heavy. We live in a rented accommodation. I can perhaps ship him off

> to a home (how much? plus his family are stalling for incomprehensible

> reasons), in which case I cannot remain in ours (too expensive). I'm now

> more or less running out of excuses to send him to hospital. Before I could

> say he used to be mobile but it's now over 2 months that by the end of the

> week he lies down in the bed and refuses to do anything. And any

> disturbance is met with hostility. And I very much doubt he knows who I am.

> I'm often " the nasty boy " . It's an unfortunate combination of some unfunny

> charade against the background of poor financial planning. So, yes, I'm

> mightily discouraged and depressed, but I am trying to find some type of

> solution. I actually do not think the way things are, they benefit either

> me or (my husband).

> I would still insist that prayers are great but practical

> advice/experience is better.

> And I don't know how mature I am, is the second demented person in my

> life, but I certainly dislike being that uncertain (especially on behalf of

> another human being), whoever Finley is.

>

> Olga

>

>

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >> Dear people,

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >> I deeply commiserate with all on the list who lost their loved

> ones, but

> > > >

> > > >> where are the messages about trying to improve? Or do you feel this

> is

> > > all

> > > >

> > > >> about deterioration and praying much (I'm an atheist).

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >> Olga

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >>

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Olga, I'm not sure if you live in Europe, but if you do, you might check this

site out: http://www.lewybody.co.uk/ I believe they also have a support group

online for LBD and may have more things available in common for you. Or maybe

you knew about this site already if you live in Europe.

Jan Colello

 

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To: LBDcaregivers

Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 3:17 AM

Subject: Re: this list

Janet - you're referring to the Lewy Body Society in the UK -- their website is

this:

http://www.lewybody.co.uk/

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > >>

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > >> Dear people,

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > >>

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > >> I deeply commiserate with all on the list who lost their loved

> > >> ones, but

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > >> where are the messages about trying to improve? Or do you feel

> > this

> > >> is

> > >> > > all

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > >> about deterioration and praying much (I'm an atheist).

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > >>

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > >> Olga

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > >>

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > >>

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > >>

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