Re: I&#039;m really confused, ft3 high than low, rt3????

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August 30, 2008

, thanks for reply. Here're my labs:

June 08:

ft3: 5,6(2,3-6,3)

ft4:20,7(10,3-24,4)

July 08:

ft3: 3,09(1,4-4,2)

ft4: 1,3(0,93-1,7)

August 08:

ft3: 4,07(2,3-6,3)

ft4:20,2 (10,3-24,4)

I'm going to order saliva test from the lab in UK but since my sister

is going to England in the beginning of October I need to wait till

then cause I want her to transport my saliva and send it form UK, it

will be faster cause polish post office is really slow and courier

costs over 200$ for a small parcel.

What concerns me is the fact that I had higher ft3 than ft4 twice

though I took only ft4 med and not in a big amount. So it seems like

my thyroid produced a lot of ft3 right? But we don't how much rt3 this

ft3 contained...

And now seddenly ft3 drops though I came back the higher dose so I

wonder what can it mean? Maybe I'm thinking too much about it...

Anyway, do you thing there's any point in checking rt3?

Maggie.

-- In RT3_T3 , " T " wrote:

>

> Maggie can you give me some actual lab numbers rather than

percentages? The

> ranges for most labs are really bad, and not the least accurate,

thus Free

> T3 needs to be MUCH higher in range than T4. IN fact some folks only

do well

> wiht T3 OVER ragne adn T4 midrange. When cortisol is low or high it

> generally cna cause high RT3 but doesn't alwasy mean you have high

RT3. Do a

> search pn Google with " Poland cortisol saliva testing " hopefully

thta will

> turn up some places where you can order a saliva test for your country.

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August 30, 2008

And when should you suspect that you've got too high rt3? When you

have bad conversion of ft4 to ft3? Or if you have high ft3 and still

feel bad?

-- In RT3_T3 , " olakozik " wrote:

>

> , thanks for reply. Here're my labs:

> June 08:

> ft3: 5,6(2,3-6,3)

> ft4:20,7(10,3-24,4)

>

> July 08:

> ft3: 3,09(1,4-4,2)

> ft4: 1,3(0,93-1,7)

>

> August 08:

> ft3: 4,07(2,3-6,3)

> ft4:20,2 (10,3-24,4)

>

> I'm going to order saliva test from the lab in UK but since my sister

> is going to England in the beginning of October I need to wait till

> then cause I want her to transport my saliva and send it form UK, it

> will be faster cause polish post office is really slow and courier

> costs over 200$ for a small parcel.

>

> What concerns me is the fact that I had higher ft3 than ft4 twice

> though I took only ft4 med and not in a big amount. So it seems like

> my thyroid produced a lot of ft3 right? But we don't how much rt3 this

> ft3 contained...

> And now seddenly ft3 drops though I came back the higher dose so I

> wonder what can it mean? Maybe I'm thinking too much about it...

> Anyway, do you thing there's any point in checking rt3?

> Maggie.

>

> -- In RT3_T3 , " T " <artisticgroomer@> wrote:

> >

> > Maggie can you give me some actual lab numbers rather than

> percentages? The

> > ranges for most labs are really bad, and not the least accurate,

> thus Free

> > T3 needs to be MUCH higher in range than T4. IN fact some folks only

> do well

> > wiht T3 OVER ragne adn T4 midrange. When cortisol is low or high it

> > generally cna cause high RT3 but doesn't alwasy mean you have high

> RT3. Do a

> > search pn Google with " Poland cortisol saliva testing " hopefully

> thta will

> > turn up some places where you can order a saliva test for your

country.

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> >

> >

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> >

>

August 30, 2008

Or having problems feelign optimal ayt any dose.

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

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August 30, 2008

In August your T4 is deinitly oging oto high and thta tells me oyu probbaly

do have an RT3 problem.

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

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August 30, 2008

Ok, so what should I do now? How can I confirm that? Is it rare to

have high rt3? Cause I read that usually people with hypo have low rt3

so I don't get it....

What's the treatment? Does it mean that I can't take t4 hormones?

Could it be related with the low cortisol level that I should confirm?

Does it mean that I have this 's syndrom?

God, I thought it couldn't get any worse but haha it does:(

Please tell me is there any sollution.

>

> In August your T4 is deinitly oging oto high and thta tells me oyu

probbaly

> do have an RT3 problem.

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

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>

>

August 30, 2008

I do not thinkit is as rare as thye say it is. Usually with hypo you have

low Frree T3 nobody tests RT3 unless oyu ask for it, and even then sometimes

it is a battle to get tested, It simply means oyu should use JUST T3 to

replace the thyroid hormoens your body needs.

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

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August 30, 2008

You mean I can't use thyroid drugs that contains both t4 and t3? Like

Armour? But aren't there many people who has bad conversion of ft4 to

ft3? And they use Armour and seem to be fine.

Shouldn't they suspect high rt3 too?

I'm sorry to ask you so many questions, you probably have other stuff

to do than anwsering my endless questions but what you just wrote

means that all the days I spent reading STTM, about Armour and other

studd was pointless? Should I give up trying to start Armour? It

should arrive in a couple of days.

Shouldn't I confirm this high rt3?(though it ould be hard to do.)

Maggie.

>

> I do not thinkit is as rare as thye say it is. Usually with hypo you

have

> low Frree T3 nobody tests RT3 unless oyu ask for it, and even then

sometimes

> it is a battle to get tested, It simply means oyu should use JUST T3 to

> replace the thyroid hormoens your body needs.

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

>

August 30, 2008

Yup I was one of them and stubborly stcu wiht Armour for 13 years and never

could get the dose right. Then I tried Armour adn T3 still couldn't get it

right.. T3 works for me!

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

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August 30, 2008

Ok but you didn't test your rt3?

I mean how can I be sure that I should take just t3?

Will the rt3 blood test be enough to know?

May I ask what type of t3 you use?I mean the brand.

Haveyou heard about TyroCare? Would you reccommend it?

And how much daily do you take? How do you know how much t3 you need?

And do you fell good?

I don't think if my doctor will know that stuff and I don't think she

has any experience in that kind of treatment.

So you have Syndrom? While taking Armour did you have high ft3

level with continuing hypo symptons?

>

> Yup I was one of them and stubborly stcu wiht Armour for 13 years

and never

> could get the dose right. Then I tried Armour adn T3 still couldn't

get it

> right.. T3 works for me!

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

>

August 30, 2008

What if you don’t have a thyroid?

I asked this on another group and was told

that the RT3 issue was a fad. Of course, I don’t believe it coz I

have it! But I was asking for a friend who doesn’t have a thyroid. She

takes Armour, but I think she’s off of it now and just taking compounded

T3 coz of the RT3 thing. I’m thinking that’s gonna hurt coz

she’s not addressing her adrenals at all and not taking any of the other

thyroid hormones. The first day she took it she was anxious and had major

heart palps.

So, should she still take the Armour, but

maybe lower the dose, while she clears out RT3 with T3 and adrenal support? That’s

my thought, but wanted to make sure since I’m still learning. J

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Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008

10:54 AM

To: RT3_T3

Subject: Re: Re: I'm

really confused, ft3 high than low, rt3????

I do not thinkit is as rare as thye say it is. Usually

with hypo you have

low Frree T3 nobody tests RT3 unless oyu ask for it, and even then sometimes

it is a battle to get tested, It simply means oyu should use JUST T3 to

replace the thyroid hormoens your body needs.

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

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August 30, 2008

It is not the lack of the other thyroid hormones thta is causing her

problems. It is lwo cortils which she MUST address before yu will be

able to tolerate enough T3 to feel well, or for that matter enough

Armour either. When you take T3 only we are only missiong out on T4 and

Calcitonin. The calcitonin we cna live wiht out for years in fatc they

really have not proven outr need for it except in animals thye have not

found the samething in humans,, but I stil believe we shoudl not go

indefinitely without it. We DO get the other thyroid hoormones from T3!

It breaks down into T2 and from there T1 so all we are actually missing

is T4 whihc is ONLY ther as a storage hormone.I have not found anothe

ruse for T4 other than to be there to convert to T3 when we need it, and

if oyu keep T3 high rnough we should nto need it at all.

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