Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 In 11 yrs of working with autistic children and giving them all selenium at least 200mcg daily I have never had a rest taken from it or a high selenium blood level. You need to ask your doctor why he/she wants to give a " rest " from selenium (or zinc or magnesium) ever unless blood rates are too high. Dr. JM --- Tamara wrote: > I have a child 4 yo. She is on GF/CF/SF/YF diet and > Biomed for 1,3 > year. We started cheletion one month ago and this > week my physician > said me that we need to have rest with Selenium, > because we have it > about one year. But I'm afraid that chelation > process can take away to > much Selenium from her body. She is getting 200 mg > per day. Can you > help me with question: how we admitted the selenium > and when we need > to have a rest. She had normal level of Selenium in > her blood analysis > in December 2007. Thanks in advance. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I have an aspie friend that got selenium poisening from her dr doing to high of levels, her hair started to fall out and all. she was on something like 825 mcgs per day Recovering from Autism is a marathon NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible! Read more about it on my Blogs at http://www.myspace.com/christelking Re: Selenium In 11 yrs of working with autistic children and giving them all selenium at least 200mcg daily I have never had a rest taken from it or a high selenium blood level. You need to ask your doctor why he/she wants to give a " rest " from selenium (or zinc or magnesium) ever unless blood rates are too high. Dr. JM --- Tamara wrote: > I have a child 4 yo. She is on GF/CF/SF/YF diet and > Biomed for 1,3 > year. We started cheletion one month ago and this > week my physician > said me that we need to have rest with Selenium, > because we have it > about one year. But I'm afraid that chelation > process can take away to > much Selenium from her body. She is getting 200 mg > per day. Can you > help me with question: how we admitted the selenium > and when we need > to have a rest. She had normal level of Selenium in > her blood analysis > in December 2007. Thanks in advance. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I've read that 100- 300 mg of zinc can be toxic,but that's quite a bit. --------- Re: Selenium In 11 yrs of working with autistic children and giving them all selenium at least 200mcg daily I have never had a rest taken from it or a high selenium blood level. You need to ask your doctor why he/she wants to give a " rest " from selenium (or zinc or magnesium) ever unless blood rates are too high. Dr. JM --- Tamara wrote: > I have a child 4 yo. She is on GF/CF/SF/YF diet and > Biomed for 1,3 > year. We started cheletion one month ago and this > week my physician > said me that we need to have rest with Selenium, > because we have it > about one year. But I'm afraid that chelation > process can take away to > much Selenium from her body. She is getting 200 mg > per day. Can you > help me with question: how we admitted the selenium > and when we need > to have a rest. She had normal level of Selenium in > her blood analysis > in December 2007. Thanks in advance. > > ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I give my daughter Body Bio Liquid Selenium (sodium selenate). One dose is 200 mcg in 3 drops. One dose was not working for us as the blood levels were not increasing, only until we quadrupled the dose (so that would be 800 mcg) did we see an increase in her blood levels and she finally made it to the normal range. Should we stop giving her that high a dose? If anyone knows please respond because now I am concerned.... JAQUELYN MCCANDLESS wrote: In 11 yrs of working with autistic children and giving them all selenium at least 200mcg daily I have never had a rest taken from it or a high selenium blood level. You need to ask your doctor why he/she wants to give a " rest " from selenium (or zinc or magnesium) ever unless blood rates are too high. Dr. JM --- Tamara wrote: > I have a child 4 yo. She is on GF/CF/SF/YF diet and > Biomed for 1,3 > year. We started cheletion one month ago and this > week my physician > said me that we need to have rest with Selenium, > because we have it > about one year. But I'm afraid that chelation > process can take away to > much Selenium from her body. She is getting 200 mg > per day. Can you > help me with question: how we admitted the selenium > and when we need > to have a rest. She had normal level of Selenium in > her blood analysis > in December 2007. Thanks in advance. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 I found this: Human toxicity has not been conclusively determined but is considered to occur as a result of high industrial exposure. The salt form of selenium (sodium selenite) is toxic at relatively low levels, while the amino acid form (selenomethionine or selenocysteine) may be safely ingested at levels up to 1,000 mcg for an adult. There have been cases of vitamin companies putting large doses of the salt form of selenium into their product causing grave health problems among those who have taken the product. Reported symptoms of toxicity include hair loss, depigmentation of skin, abnormal nails, and weariness. A garlic odor on the breath, without garlic ingestion, may be an indication of selenium toxicity. If you are going to give such high doses, maybe you should not use the sodium selenite form per this info. I generally use Thorne's selenium picolinate. Dr. JM --- Jena Deen wrote: > I give my daughter Body Bio Liquid Selenium (sodium > selenate). One dose is 200 mcg in 3 drops. One > dose was not working for us as the blood levels were > not increasing, only until we quadrupled the dose > (so that would be 800 mcg) did we see an increase in > her blood levels and she finally made it to the > normal range. > > Should we stop giving her that high a dose? > > If anyone knows please respond because now I am > concerned.... > > JAQUELYN MCCANDLESS wrote: > In 11 yrs of working with autistic > children and giving > them all selenium at least 200mcg daily I have never > had a rest taken from it or a high selenium blood > level. You need to ask your doctor why he/she wants > to give a " rest " from selenium (or zinc or > magnesium) > ever unless blood rates are too high. Dr. JM > --- Tamara wrote: > > > I have a child 4 yo. She is on GF/CF/SF/YF diet > and > > Biomed for 1,3 > > year. We started cheletion one month ago and this > > week my physician > > said me that we need to have rest with Selenium, > > because we have it > > about one year. But I'm afraid that chelation > > process can take away to > > much Selenium from her body. She is getting 200 mg > > per day. Can you > > help me with question: how we admitted the > selenium > > and when we need > > to have a rest. She had normal level of Selenium > in > > her blood analysis > > in December 2007. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I think the concern about using selenium while chelating comes from a recommendation by Dr Boyd Haley a few years ago. He stated that selenium binds naturally to mercury and other heavy metals to make it easier for the body to excrete. (Selenium is supposedly the reason that high-mercury fish don't get " autism " ; they also have high levels of selenium.) He suggested that selenium should NOT be used while chelating because it would prevent the chelator from working properly. There was a major discussion about this on the CK2 list some time ago. I don't know if the recommendation has changed. ~Sue On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:25 PM, JAQUELYN MCCANDLESS < JMcCandless@...> wrote: > I found this: Human toxicity has not been > conclusively determined but is considered to occur as > a result of high industrial exposure. The salt form of > selenium (sodium selenite) is toxic at relatively low > levels, while the amino acid form (selenomethionine or > selenocysteine) may be safely ingested at levels up to > 1,000 mcg for an adult. There have been cases of > vitamin companies putting large doses of the salt form > of selenium into their product causing grave health > problems among those who have taken the product. > Reported symptoms of toxicity include hair loss, > depigmentation of skin, abnormal nails, and weariness. > A garlic odor on the breath, without garlic ingestion, > may be an indication of selenium toxicity. > > If you are going to give such high doses, maybe you > should not use the sodium selenite form per this info. > I generally use Thorne's selenium picolinate. Dr. JM > > > --- Jena Deen <jenadeen786@... <jenadeen786%40yahoo.com>> wrote: > > > I give my daughter Body Bio Liquid Selenium (sodium > > selenate). One dose is 200 mcg in 3 drops. One > > dose was not working for us as the blood levels were > > not increasing, only until we quadrupled the dose > > (so that would be 800 mcg) did we see an increase in > > her blood levels and she finally made it to the > > normal range. > > > > Should we stop giving her that high a dose? > > > > If anyone knows please respond because now I am > > concerned.... > > > > JAQUELYN MCCANDLESS <JMcCandless@... <JMcCandless%40prodigy.net>> > wrote: > > In 11 yrs of working with autistic > > children and giving > > them all selenium at least 200mcg daily I have never > > had a rest taken from it or a high selenium blood > > level. You need to ask your doctor why he/she wants > > to give a " rest " from selenium (or zinc or > > magnesium) > > ever unless blood rates are too high. Dr. JM > > --- Tamara <tamara48@... <tamara48%40yandex.ru>> wrote: > > > > > I have a child 4 yo. She is on GF/CF/SF/YF diet > > and > > > Biomed for 1,3 > > > year. We started cheletion one month ago and this > > > week my physician > > > said me that we need to have rest with Selenium, > > > because we have it > > > about one year. But I'm afraid that chelation > > > process can take away to > > > much Selenium from her body. She is getting 200 mg > > > per day. Can you > > > help me with question: how we admitted the > > selenium > > > and when we need > > > to have a rest. She had normal level of Selenium > > in > > > her blood analysis > > > in December 2007. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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