Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Further clarification on the CSB (Children with Starving Brains) e-list question regarding the Strep Thermophilus in Ther-Biotics from Ilene Buchholtz: Dear Dr. McCandless, I thought that you might find the following brief summary regarding Streptococcus thermophilus of interest. It provides a response to your recent question asking if there was any potential adverse interaction or cross reactivity between the probiotic bacterium Streptococcus thermophilus and the Group A ß-hemolytic streptococcal infection that is associated with PANDAS (Pediatric Infection-Triggered Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders). The answer was researched by the doctors in our ProThera® and/Klaire Labs™ technical department and provided below with support references. I believe that this information may have some application to the concerns expressed yesterday on the autism web groups about the use of S. thermophilus. A search of the medical literature reveals no evidence of cross-reactivity between S. thermophilus and pathogenic streptococcal species. Though belonging to the same genus as disease-causing streptococci, an examination of the genome of S. thermophilus reveals a lack of the most important genetic determinants of pathogenicity.1 Of note, one of these determinants, a specific M protein (STM6P) found in group A beta-hemolytic streptococci and to which autistic children have demonstrated immune reactivity,2 is not present in S. thermophilus3 suggesting it lacks the important immunodominant epitopes expressed by pathogenic streptococcal species. Also of significance is the fact that PANDAS has never been associated with the presence of streptococcal organisms outside of the oropharyngeal cavity, for example on the skin or in the intestinal tract.4 Further, there is evidence that probiotic organisms such as S. thermophilus may actually enhance immunity against pathogenic streptococci. In one study, consumption of milk cultured with S. thermophilus and other lactic acid bacteria was found to reduce or eliminate the presence of S. pneumoniae and beta-hemolytic streptococci in the nasal cavities of study participants.5 While all of this evidence does not rule out the possibility of cross-reactivity between non-pathogenic and pathogenic species of streptococci, it provides little or no basis for believing such cross-reactions exist, and rather suggests that S. thermophilus may have protective effects against colonization of potentially harmful streptococcus organisms in the upper respiratory tract. References 1. Hols P, Hancy F, Fontaine L, et al. New insights in the molecular biology and physiology of Streptococcus thermophilus revealed by comparative genomics. FEMS Microbiol Rev 2005;29:435-63. 2. Vojdani A, AW, Anyanwu E, et al. Antibodies to neuron-specific antigens in children with autism: possible cross-reaction with encephalitogenic proteins from milk, Chlamydia pneumoniae and Streptococcus group A. J Neuroimmunol 2002;129:168-77. 3. Universal Protein Resource (UniProt) Knowledgebase; Protein Families; M Protein Family. Universal Protein Resource (UniProt) Consortium Website. http://beta.uniprot.org/uniprot/?query=family:%22M+protein+family%22. Accessed 2/29/08. 4. de Oliveira SK. PANDAS: a new disease? J Pediatr ( Rio J) 2007;83:201-8. 5. Glück U, Gebbers JO. Ingested probiotics reduce nasal colonization with pathogenic bacteria (Staphylococcus aureus, Streptococcus pneumoniae, and beta-hemolytic streptococci). Am J Clin Nutr 2003;77:517-20. I trust that this provides some further documentation in support of using the S. thermophilus probiotic strain with apparent safety and efficacy. Sincere regards, Ilene Buchholz, R.N. Technical Product Specialist Klaire Labs™, a division of ProThera®, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 i'm sure this study though would also have been done on NT people and not autistic people right?? I would think that would also make a difference, the other thing to think about is that it's not the bacteria you are worring about but the antibodies, which is what PANDAS would be reacting to, over replication of antibodies to a NON bacteria- or non present issue. our kids bodies mix up and mess up mix and soy protiens and milk protiens, or yeast and tetnus in studies. (per Dr Shaws book) it would make for an interesting study.....adding in or only changing this probotic and then weeks later measureing ASO titers, I guess you would have to do pre and post.... Recovering from Autism is a marathon NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible! Read more about it on my Blogs at http://www.myspace.com/christelking Strep in Klaire's Therbiotics Complete Further clarification on the CSB (Children with Starving Brains) e-list question regarding the Strep Thermophilus in Ther-Biotics from Ilene Buchholtz: Dear Dr. McCandless, I thought that you might find the following brief summary regarding Streptococcus thermophilus of interest. It provides a response to your recent question asking if there was any potential adverse interaction or cross reactivity between the probiotic bacterium Streptococcus thermophilus and the Group A ß-hemolytic streptococcal infection that is associated with PANDAS (Pediatric Infection-Triggered Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders). The answer was researched by the doctors in our ProThera® and/Klaire LabsT technical department and provided below with support references. I believe that this information may have some application to the concerns expressed yesterday on the autism web groups about the use of S. thermophilus. A search of the medical literature reveals no evidence of cross-reactivity between S. thermophilus and pathogenic streptococcal species. Though belonging to the same genus as disease-causing streptococci, an examination of the genome of S. thermophilus reveals a lack of the most important genetic determinants of pathogenicity.1 Of note, one of these determinants, a specific M protein (STM6P) found in group A beta-hemolytic streptococci and to which autistic children have demonstrated immune reactivity,2 is not present in S. thermophilus3 suggesting it lacks the important immunodominant epitopes expressed by pathogenic streptococcal species. Also of significance is the fact that PANDAS has never been associated with the presence of streptococcal organisms outside of the oropharyngeal cavity, for example on the skin or in the intestinal tract.4 Further, there is evidence that probiotic organisms such as S. thermophilus may actually enhance immunity against pathogenic streptococci. In one study, consumption of milk cultured with S. thermophilus and other lactic acid bacteria was found to reduce or eliminate the presence of S. pneumoniae and beta-hemolytic streptococci in the nasal cavities of study participants.5 While all of this evidence does not rule out the possibility of cross-reactivity between non-pathogenic and pathogenic species of streptococci, it provides little or no basis for believing such cross-reactions exist, and rather suggests that S. thermophilus may have protective effects against colonization of potentially harmful streptococcus organisms in the upper respiratory tract. References 1. Hols P, Hancy F, Fontaine L, et al. New insights in the molecular biology and physiology of Streptococcus thermophilus revealed by comparative genomics. FEMS Microbiol Rev 2005;29:435-63. 2. Vojdani A, AW, Anyanwu E, et al. Antibodies to neuron-specific antigens in children with autism: possible cross-reaction with encephalitogenic proteins from milk, Chlamydia pneumoniae and Streptococcus group A. J Neuroimmunol 2002;129:168-77. 3. Universal Protein Resource (UniProt) Knowledgebase; Protein Families; M Protein Family. Universal Protein Resource (UniProt) Consortium Website. http://beta.uniprot.org/uniprot/?query=family:%22M+protein+family%22. Accessed 2/29/08. 4. de Oliveira SK. PANDAS: a new disease? J Pediatr ( Rio J) 2007;83:201-8. 5. Glück U, Gebbers JO. Ingested probiotics reduce nasal colonization with pathogenic bacteria (Staphylococcus aureus, Streptococcus pneumoniae, and beta-hemolytic streptococci). Am J Clin Nutr 2003;77:517-20. I trust that this provides some further documentation in support of using the S. thermophilus probiotic strain with apparent safety and efficacy. Sincere regards, Ilene Buchholz, R.N. Technical Product Specialist Klaire LabsT, a division of ProThera®, Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1329 - Release Date: 3/14/2008 12:33 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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