Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 , I've not tried HCL so I'll look into that. However, I don't have acid reflux, heartburn or anything else in that direction - it's more the other end where i have problems...LOL! Robin > > Hi Robin ~ > > HC cream only. I chose Isocort because it was all-natural and only tried > the cream because I was running low while waiting for a shipment. > > My holistic practitioner muscle-tests everything for me on a scale of 1-10 > (10 being best) and Isocort was a 9-10, using cream when necessary was also > a 9-10, using HC was a measley 2-3. > > Just the other day someone wrote into the Adrenals group about how they > improved significantly on their HC (temps stabilized) when Val suggested > taking it with hydrochloric acid. I've been taking HCL for years for my > digestion, but got lazy about a month ago. I started getting a little acid > reflux... duh! It was the Isocort sans HCL. I added it back in and viola! > Maybe that could be a factor? > > take care, > ~ > > > -----Original Message----- > > Did you try HC or only the HC cream. > > I sound like an idiot when I say this but taking t4 is deadly for me (and > for others I'm sure), taking t3 is like taking candy no matter how high or > low the dose and HC/pred is also like candy. So I stopped (slowly) all meds > and thought I would try an alternative approach. No help there either. > > Everyone I talk to thinks my symptoms are adrenal and someone the other day > said they had better results with isocort then with HC so I wanted to know ' > what's up wit dat'! Could that make a difference for me... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Hi Robin ~ Actually, using HCL can help on that end, too. A dear friend of mine suffered fairly severe IBS from taking his many anxiety/bi-polar meds. One day after dinner, my husband and I were taking our HCL and he tried it ... and, in his words, " it changed my life. " He keeps bottles at the office, at home, and a supply in a key chain attachment. Zypan from Standard Process. Amazing stuff. take care, ~ p.s. I've since talked to this friend about hypoT and hypoAdrenal as being at the core of his bi-polar. He was a Navy fighter pilot who flew in the first Gulf War. Do ya think maybe his adrenals are shot? oy. -----Original Message----- , I've not tried HCL so I'll look into that. However, I don't have acid reflux, heartburn or anything else in that direction - it's more the other end where i have problems...LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 , I know HCL in hydrocloric acid but what form does it come in? Venizia > > Hi Robin ~ > > Actually, using HCL can help on that end, too. A dear friend of mine > suffered fairly severe IBS from taking his many anxiety/bi-polar meds. One > day after dinner, my husband and I were taking our HCL and he tried it ... > and, in his words, " it changed my life. " He keeps bottles at the office, at > home, and a supply in a key chain attachment. Zypan from Standard Process. > Amazing stuff. > > take care, > ~ > > p.s. I've since talked to this friend about hypoT and hypoAdrenal as being > at the core of his bi-polar. He was a Navy fighter pilot who flew in the > first Gulf War. Do ya think maybe his adrenals are shot? oy. > > -----Original Message----- > > , > I've not tried HCL so I'll look into that. However, I don't have acid > reflux, heartburn or anything else in that direction - it's more the other > end where i have problems...LOL! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 , How does HCL help your digestion? I've been trying to recover from gut burning from HC alone (even though I was taking w/food..seemed to flare up) and thought the HCL might exacerbate that. Doesn't it cause burning too? Chris > > > > Hi Robin ~ > > > > HC cream only. I chose Isocort because it was all-natural and only > tried > > the cream because I was running low while waiting for a shipment. > > > > My holistic practitioner muscle-tests everything for me on a scale > of 1-10 > > (10 being best) and Isocort was a 9-10, using cream when necessary > was also > > a 9-10, using HC was a measley 2-3. > > > > Just the other day someone wrote into the Adrenals group about how they > > improved significantly on their HC (temps stabilized) when Val suggested > > taking it with hydrochloric acid. I've been taking HCL for years for my > > digestion, but got lazy about a month ago. I started getting a > little acid > > reflux... duh! It was the Isocort sans HCL. I added it back in and > viola! > > Maybe that could be a factor? > > > > take care, > > ~ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Did you try HC or only the HC cream. > > > > I sound like an idiot when I say this but taking t4 is deadly for me > (and > > for others I'm sure), taking t3 is like taking candy no matter how > high or > > low the dose and HC/pred is also like candy. So I stopped (slowly) > all meds > > and thought I would try an alternative approach. No help there either. > > > > Everyone I talk to thinks my symptoms are adrenal and someone the > other day > > said they had better results with isocort then with HC so I wanted > to know ' > > what's up wit dat'! Could that make a difference for me... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Hi Venezia ~ I take HCL in the form of a product called Zypan by Standard Process. You can order it from www.naturamart.com, or check www.standardprocess.com for a practitioner (chiro, etc) who sells it. From the product info I have: Zypan is a Pepsin and Hydrochloric Acid supplement. HCL acid products run in contradistinction to the most popular drug of the modern era: the antacid. The antacid is very poor biochemistry, as it neutralizes one of the most important of all bodily secretions, HCL. Zypan provides pepsin and HCL to aid in the digestive process. The product contains betaine hydrochloride, pancreatin, and pepsin. It is used to help people who cannot digest their food properly due to insufficient digestive enzymes in the stomach and duodenum. take care, ~ -----Original Message----- , I know HCL in hydrocloric acid but what form does it come in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Hi ~ No burning at all from my HCL, Zypan. It stopped the burning from the Isocort immediately. take care, ~ -----Original Message----- How does HCL help your digestion? I've been trying to recover from gut burning from HC alone (even though I was taking w/food..seemed to flare up) and thought the HCL might exacerbate that. Doesn't it cause burning too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Okay, that's it. I'm going to try it. How do you dose it? With meals? With your Isocort or what? How much seems to work?THANK YOU ! Hi ~No burning at all from my HCL, Zypan. It stopped the burning from theIsocort immediately.take care,~-----Original Message-----How does HCL help your digestion? I've been trying to recover from gutburning from HC alone (even though I was taking w/food..seemed to flare up)and thought the HCL might exacerbate that. Doesn't it cause burning too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 You go, girl! I take 1 Zypan tablet with every meal AND whenever I take Isocort. If you want to help your digestive system out a little more, take 2 Multi-zyme and 1 AF Betafood with each meal (both from Standard Process). AF Betafood: used to help thin the bile and promote better liver and gall bladder function. Used to help control cholesterol and triglycerides, and digest fats better. Poor fat digestion causes nausea, gas, bloating, and cramps. Its ingredients are Vitamin A in a base of unsaturated fatty acids (vitamin F), comined with Betafood (dehydrated green beet leaf juice). Multi-zyme: digestive enzyme is a strong aid in the complete breakdown of ingested foods. Complete protein breakdown. And... no... I don't work for Standard Process! I've just used their products for years and they are of the highest quality available. 100% natural, made from raw organic materials. No synthetics. take care, ~ -----Original Message-----From: RT3_T3 [mailto:RT3_T3 ]On Behalf Of RomanSent: Friday, August 15, 2008 2:19 PMTo: RT3_T3 Subject: Re: Re: isocortOkay, that's it. I'm going to try it. How do you dose it? With meals? With your Isocort or what? How much seems to work? THANK YOU ! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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