Re: Help Needed for 11yo Boy in Puberty

September 24, 2008

Lithium Orotate is definitely worth a try, and for his size, you could start

with 1 twice a day and work up to 6 a day with no problem, no testing needed. I

get it at VRP. I would also boost his DHA up to at least 1000mg a day; it is

very calming for some kids and definitely helps their cognitive functions. Dr.

JM

Subject: Help Needed for 11yo Boy in Puberty

To: csb-autism-rx

Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 10:57 AM

I hope someone can offer some advice with this. My 11 year old,

140lb, 5'2 " moderately autistic son has entered puberty and his

behavior has become very challenging. His speaking ability has also

regressed. His DAN Dr. prescribed Tenex last year to help calm him

down, but it only seems to make him sleepy later in the day.

I've resisted going to psychoactive drugs, but I did see a post from

Dr. JM about using VRP's lithium for a young man. Would this be

appropriate?

Any suggestions would be helpful,

Thanks

September 24, 2008

,

The purpose of this forum is to present ideas -- even unpopular ideas -- to help

each other.

Your son is going through early puberty because he is mercury toxic. Chelation

is not very effective due to his high testoserone. The answer here is to reduce

his testosterone and chelate. You reduce testosterone by stopping his puberty

until a normal age (13). The medication used to do this is Lupron.

Regardless of how you feel, suggest you listen to the Geiers:

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

My son, now 7 and autistic started with a lupron-chelation protocal at age 5

1/2. He has improved drastically. Feel free to email me with any

questions/thoughts.

Good luck.

Abid

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Subject: [csb-autism- rx] Help Needed for 11yo Boy in Puberty

To: csb-autism-rx@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 10:57 AM

I hope someone can offer some advice with this. My 11 year old,

140lb, 5'2 " moderately autistic son has entered puberty and his

behavior has become very challenging. His speaking ability has also

regressed. His DAN Dr. prescribed Tenex last year to help calm him

down, but it only seems to make him sleepy later in the day.

I've resisted going to psychoactive drugs, but I did see a post from

Dr. JM about using VRP's lithium for a young man. Would this be

appropriate?

Any suggestions would be helpful,

Thanks

September 25, 2008

Wow, I was just about to ask this same question ... Only my son is 16

and is around 100 pounds.... but finally entering into puberty. His

was severly delayed because of failure to thrive issues prior to

going gfcf....

However he also has (had) a seizure disorder (though it is very

under control due to gfcfsfcf diet ..no seizures in 2 years and has

mostly weaned off of medication ... may be fully weaned off next

month after EEG)

Lithium Orotate .. would that be anything like lithium that is a

seizure medication? Should I worry about giving it with his seizure

medications????

DHA ... as in fish oil DHA ... or seperate?

THanks,

Melinda

>

> Subject: Help Needed for 11yo Boy in Puberty

> To: csb-autism-rx

> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 10:57 AM

>

> I hope someone can offer some advice with this. My 11 year old,

> 140lb, 5'2 " moderately autistic son has entered puberty and his

> behavior has become very challenging. His speaking ability has also

> regressed. His DAN Dr. prescribed Tenex last year to help calm him

> down, but it only seems to make him sleepy later in the day.

>

> I've resisted going to psychoactive drugs, but I did see a post from

> Dr. JM about using VRP's lithium for a young man. Would this be

> appropriate?

>

> Any suggestions would be helpful,

>

> Thanks

>

September 26, 2008

Thank you for the response. My son has been through oral and IV

chelation-the IV chelation was last year. The mercury has not been

removed completely, according to the porphyrin test, but it has been

substantially reduced. We had to give it a break for financial and

logistical reasons. He has also been through hyperbaric and other

less invasive therapies. Unfortunately, he hasn't had much of an

improvement with any of them.

>

> ,

>

> The purpose of this forum is to present ideas -- even unpopular

ideas -- to help each other.

>

> Your son is going through early puberty because he is mercury

toxic. Chelation is not very effective due to his high testoserone.

The answer here is to reduce his testosterone and chelate. You reduce

testosterone by stopping his puberty until a normal age (13). The

medication used to do this is Lupron.

>

> Regardless of how you feel, suggest you listen to the Geiers:

>

> http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

>

> My son, now 7 and autistic started with a lupron-chelation protocal

at age 5 1/2. He has improved drastically. Feel free to email me

with any questions/thoughts.

>

> Good luck.

>

> Abid

>

September 26, 2008

Hi,

Have you tried chelation using DMSA? You can get this at Vitamin Research

Products without a prescription and relatively inexpensive.

Subject: Re: Help Needed for 11yo Boy in Puberty

To: csb-autism-rx

Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 8:22 AM

Thank you for the response. My son has been through oral and IV

chelation-the IV chelation was last year. The mercury has not been

removed completely, according to the porphyrin test, but it has been

substantially reduced. We had to give it a break for financial and

logistical reasons. He has also been through hyperbaric and other

less invasive therapies. Unfortunately, he hasn't had much of an

improvement with any of them.

>

> ,

>

> The purpose of this forum is to present ideas -- even unpopular

ideas -- to help each other.

>

> Your son is going through early puberty because he is mercury

toxic. Chelation is not very effective due to his high testoserone.

The answer here is to reduce his testosterone and chelate. You reduce

testosterone by stopping his puberty until a normal age (13). The

medication used to do this is Lupron.

>

> Regardless of how you feel, suggest you listen to the Geiers:

>

> http://www.autismme dia.org/media4. html

>

> My son, now 7 and autistic started with a lupron-chelation protocal

at age 5 1/2. He has improved drastically. Feel free to email me

with any questions/thoughts.

>

> Good luck.

>

> Abid

>

September 27, 2008

Yes, we used oral DMSA from VRP for many rounds of chelation

(following the bi-weekly DAN protocol) several years ago. We didn't

follow-up with tests, though, so I don't know how effective it was in

pulling mercury. When we did the porphyrin test before starting IV

chelation, he was still measuring heavily mercury toxic. He did go

though months of weekly/bi-weekly IV chelation with EDTA and DMPS at

Dr. Bradstreet's office and that did reduce levels significantly, but

not completely. We may start up the IV chelation again, but we'll

probably have to wait until next summer when school is out.

I am concerned that we haven't seen improvement in his symptoms,

though the mercury levels are lower. Of course, there's also no way

to tell how much mercury may still be in his brain. I'm very worried

that-at 11 years old-the damage may be irreversible.

>

> Hi,

>

> Have you tried chelation using DMSA? You can get this at Vitamin

Research Products without a prescription and relatively inexpensive.

>

September 27, 2008

We have the same concerns with our 12 year old. We are currently investigating

the possibility that he may have Mitochondrial dysfunction or disease. Take a

look at the attached paper. It's a terrible thought but this study estimates

that 35% of children that are

diagnosed w/ Autism may have Mitochondrial dysfunction or disease. This disease

is prevalent in boys and presents itself with Autistic like features. It is my

understanding that while they may have some treatments to arrest the progression

of the disease it's not likely they will be able to reverse the damage.

We have found the Neubrander B12 protocol very helpful for our son.

Subject: Re: Help Needed for 11yo Boy in Puberty

To: csb-autism-rx

Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 12:14 PM