Re: Neck, Back Pain, and Insomnia OT

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Hi Tonnie, I also have chronic & neuro-lyme & the pain sometimes is unbearable & i refuse to take narcotics & i dont judge anyone who does for we all deal with this terrible disease in our own way. I also have the metal rods & screws in my spine, so i understand & sympathize with your daughters pain. I found a wonderful reflexologist that really helps eleviate pain & i try to go to aqua-therapy 2-3 times a week, it feels awesome to get in a pool of warm water & your not sore the next day, if your co-payment is high for therapy, then i do know that alot of ins co will pay for a membership @ the YMCA or something like the "Y" thats near you....Hope this helps!

Prayers, DarlaI have no financial gain for anything thats mentioned here! To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012

9:42 PM Subject: Neck, Back Pain, and Insomnia

Hi,

I just want to let everyone know that this group has been so helpful in providing information and is a wonderful resource for treatment options.

My daughter is 16 and has chronic Lyme. She tried the usual abx routine for 2 years, but is now done with putting anymore antibiotics into her body. She did improve a little, but was a t a standstill. She had a port and it got infected. She had it removed about 2 months ago and has been off abx since then.

I have been following this group since February, and I purchased a Dough Coil machine that she uses. She is also using MMS, magnesium oil, and just started Essiac tea. She was diagnosed with Babesia and Bartonella as well. She is using MMS Basic and is up to 3 drops every hour for 8 hours. She tolerates it well. Should she change or up the protocol?

She is having a lot of back, neck, and shoulder pain. Also headaches and terrible insomnia. Some of her neurological problems have decreased. She has suffered with the back and neck pain for years. Is there anything else that anyone could recommend? I thought I read applying MMS to the skin, but I can't find the post. I have also heard about DMSO. I thought about taking her to a Chiropractor, but I am not sure if that would help. Two years ago I took her, but she ended up in more pain. She usually can't fall asleep until 4 or 5 AM. We tried melatonin, but it didn't work. She was taking Trazadone at one time, but she does not want to take anymore prescription medications. If anyone has a recommendation that would be great.

Thanks,

Tonnie

[Guest guest]

Did you try just DMSO abbondanly over there where it hurts every 10 m until it receid

also chinese massage disspate somewhat the local toxines,

I tryed to get the wet cuppin ga chinese technic constiting on removing throught mignture hole on th eskin and vacuming

the blood stucked full of toxine sand bactarias old technic .

but he person was not chinese and afraid so she did nto do it right removed nothing byfright it di tnothign then i need to try with chines real one on the video on the web they are nto afraid of removing some blood she let it a too short time .so my experience is not valid .

also the xylocain has the property to increase the diameter of the small vessals as wele as the nesthetic effect when my seety has any pain or my cat i drop some iv xylocain on the skin wher eit hurts and pretty ssoon it does not hurt anymore you need for thsi a intelligent dct to accpet to prescribe it to you . for a topic use .

the neural therapy is based on this bu tthe cost !!it is mignture amount of xylocain injected superficially in the skin . you will get the sam effect

by mixing it with DMSO and putting it on your skin withotu the pain and the cost if you find a practitionner to accept to giv eyou a prescrition of IV cvial to use topicaaly instead of internally .

Just ideas i have used myself no medical advise of anykind needless to say

finally and not the least in CA it is legal I think to get cannabis oil souverain on pain it heals as well as it removes the apin just an otehr old facion medecin that has been removed form the market .

Kindly Marie

To: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:51 AMSubject: Re: Neck, Back Pain, and Insomnia OT

Hi Tonnie, I also have chronic & neuro-lyme & the pain sometimes is unbearable & i refuse to take narcotics & i dont judge anyone who does for we all deal with this terrible disease in our own way. I also have the metal rods & screws in my spine, so i understand & sympathize with your daughters pain. I found a wonderful reflexologist that really helps eleviate pain & i try to go to aqua-therapy 2-3 times a week, it feels awesome to get in a pool of warm water & your not sore the next day, if your co-payment is high for therapy, then i do know that alot of ins co will pay for a membership @ the YMCA or something like the "Y" thats near you....Hope this helps!

Prayers, Darla

I have no financial gain for anything thats mentioned here!

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:42 PMSubject: Neck, Back Pain, and Insomnia

Hi,I just want to let everyone know that this group has been so helpful in providing information and is a wonderful resource for treatment options. My daughter is 16 and has chronic Lyme. She tried the usual abx routine for 2 years, but is now done with putting anymore antibiotics into her body. She did improve a little, but was a t a standstill. She had a port and it got infected. She had it removed about 2 months ago and has been off abx since then. I have been following this group since February, and I purchased a Dough Coil machine that she uses. She is also using MMS, magnesium oil, and just started Essiac tea. She was diagnosed with Babesia and Bartonella as well. She is using MMS Basic and is up to 3 drops every hour for 8 hours. She tolerates it well. Should she change or up the protocol? She is having a lot of back, neck, and shoulder pain. Also headaches and terrible insomnia. Some of her neurological

problems have decreased. She has suffered with the back and neck pain for years. Is there anything else that anyone could recommend? I thought I read applying MMS to the skin, but I can't find the post. I have also heard about DMSO. I thought about taking her to a Chiropractor, but I am not sure if that would help. Two years ago I took her, but she ended up in more pain. She usually can't fall asleep until 4 or 5 AM. We tried melatonin, but it didn't work. She was taking Trazadone at one time, but she does not want to take anymore prescription medications. If anyone has a recommendation that would be great.Thanks,Tonnie