Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Thanks Val Just need to check what the hyper type symptoms are all about even though not any any meds and my labs were low. Is it tied up with a period as I just got my Sunday. Awful it was too. I wonder too that I am feeling a little better yet not taking T3 is that period related too and am I going to bitch in a few days. Thanks Margo > > Thyroid is always best without food. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Periods are STRESS ot the adrneals especially hard ones so thta is the hyper symptoms oyu are gettign. Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 and maybe she needs progesterone? I have a question on another note..in regards to taking thyroid w/o food. I take my thyroid sublingually, I was under the impression that it desnt matter when I take it then. Subject: Re: Re: Val, I got someTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 11:36 AMPeriods are STRESS ot the adrneals especially hard ones so thta is the hyper symptoms oyu are gettign. Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Val, can I split this capsule and dissolve half under the tongue. It's a slow release T3 and pretty sure it's from a compund chemist. I just thought I would try and get two doses out of it until I get an increase. Thanks Margo > > Thyroid is always best without food. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Even with the low hypo results I got it was a hyper symptom? doesn't mean I am going to go hyper does it. Since getting my period things have improved why is that. Will it last or will things just go belly up if I don't take anything. > > Periods are STRESS ot the adrneals especially hard ones so thta is the hyper > symptoms oyu are gettign. > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Can I split the capsule? > > Periods are STRESS ot the adrneals especially hard ones so thta is the hyper > symptoms oyu are gettign. > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 When you open a capsule of slow release product you are undoign at least SOME of the slow release. It may act as a regular nto time released T3. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Hyper symptoms are not necessarily hyperthyroid. You can get hyper symtopms from low cortils as the cortisl is nto available to utilize the thyriod properly thus making ti too much for your body to handle at that moment. I have sen several women that had to stress dose extra HC just before or the first few days of their periods. I believe ths us due to progesterone ebing high and it can oftne bind to cortils receptors makeing yo a bit coretils resistant when it is high. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Ok thanks. Since taking the T3 a whole 2 days no hyper symptoms but man have become more tired. Is that normal. Thanks Margo > > Hyper symptoms are not necessarily hyperthyroid. You can get hyper > symtopms from low cortils as the cortisl is nto available to utilize the > thyriod properly thus making ti too much for your body to handle at that > moment. I have sen several women that had to stress dose extra HC just > before or the first few days of their periods. I believe ths us due to > progesterone ebing high and it can oftne bind to cortils receptors > makeing yo a bit coretils resistant when it is high. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 No that is not a normal reaction. Are oyur temps lowre? If they are it oculd indicate your adrneals are not tolerating it. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 can you keep us posted if the t3 continues to make you tired. That is my fear as I consider switching to t3. thanks Subject: Re: Val, I got someTo: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 8:27 PMOk thanks. Since taking the T3 a whole 2 days no hyper symptoms but man have become more tired. Is that normal. Thanks Margo > > Hyper symptoms are not necessarily hyperthyroid. You can get hyper > symtopms from low cortils as the cortisl is nto available to utilize the > thyriod properly thus making ti too much for your body to handle at that > moment. I have sen several women that had to stress dose extra HC just > before or the first few days of their periods. I believe ths us due to > progesterone ebing high and it can oftne bind to cortils receptors > makeing yo a bit coretils resistant when it is high. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Ok I don't know what to do about these adrenals. The doc who gave me T3 though the saliva results were not too bad but did a 24 urine just to be sure I didn't have high cortisol. He thought with those results my adrenals were fine. You thought with the sailva results they did not require HC just a support like a licorice root or two in the morning. I've been taking those with no change. The is no way I can get hc now to treat them. I would have 2 doctors against me on this. I do have some HC left but it may not be enough. While decreasing the NT I did notice my temps were more stable and I felt warmer. I need to monitor them more again now. The T3 takes care of hyper symptoms I have in the mornings. https://www.healthchemist.co.nz/product/900917.html Could you please look at this link and see if this adrenal support my b ok. It's about all I can get here. And remember I can't get stuff into this country. Is the recommended dosage enough? Any other suggestions would be great Thanks Margo > > No that is not a normal reaction. Are oyur temps lowre? If they are it > oculd indicate your adrneals are not tolerating it. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 I would nto take this product. TGoo many stimulants in ti. I woul look for a glandular that is MOSTLY JUST adrneal glandular. Isocort would be fine and you maybe can order it online. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 As a last resort I will try and order in. Which is the best place to order from. Thanks for looking at the link. I have just emailed my good doc in the hope he will allow HC. Have also sent him the protocol for it. He also said so long as I am not getting any adverse effects from the T3 I could introduce another tablet 12 hours later. I took my T3 today at 10.15am instead of 6am. I made it through work ok. Little tired now but not as bad as yesterday. Just hope it is an adjusting thing. I will keep at one capsule for another couple of days before I increase. I hope to here from him by tomorrow re the HC. If I can get his permission then I am likely to get more scripts and if the T3 doesn't work for me at least I can have a go at treating the adrenals. How much time should I give either side of taking T3 before/after taking hc and other vitamins. It was suggest take nothing for 4 hours of taking T3 but it seems such a long time. Thanks again for your help. > > I would nto take this product. TGoo many stimulants in ti. I woul look > for a glandular that is MOSTLY JUST adrneal glandular. Isocort would be > fine and you maybe can order it online. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Sure will, you guys are my first stop for questions I am pretty much flying solo over here. Margo > > > > Hyper symptoms are not necessarily hyperthyroid. You can get hyper > > symtopms from low cortils as the cortisl is nto available to > utilize the > > thyriod properly thus making ti too much for your body to handle at > that > > moment. I have sen several women that had to stress dose extra HC > just > > before or the first few days of their periods. I believe ths us due > to > > progesterone ebing high and it can oftne bind to cortils receptors > > makeing yo a bit coretils resistant when it is high. > > > > -- > > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Doesn't make me feel tired. Once I got up to a high enough dose, I started feeling much stronger. Dorothy > > can you keep us posted if the t3 continues to make you tired. That > is my fear as I consider switching to t3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 If you give me a Yahoo or Gmail address I will send you our list of suppliers. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 leisamelanie@... Subject: Re: Re: Val, I got someTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 4:02 AMIf you give me a Yahoo or Gmail address I will send you our list of suppliers. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Check your spam adn bulk boxes as Yahoo usually sends it there. Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Val thinks it could be low cortisol causing the hyper. That fine just have to find some way of dealing with it. Cane some one tell me why I feel so good a couple of days before my period and about day 6 of my cycle (used to be day 12) I get moody big time want to cry all the time and just find life not worth it. This sucks. I'm not depressed as I have some good days, I'm sure I am on some hormonal roller coaster but don't know what to do about it. It frightens the hell out of me. Margo > > > > So you were never tired at all on it. I am only on 15mcg at this > > stage. > > Margo > > No. the only thing that makes me tired is not enough. I was tired > until I worked up. I have no idea how you can be hypo and feel hyper. > What do you mean by feeling hyper? Maybe you already said that. If so > I am sorry, I can't find it now. > > Dorothy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Right before oyur period is when progesterone is highest. It can mimiclk cortilsl and actually binds ot cortisol receptos so that would leave more cortilsl in oyur body for metabolic things thius making oyu feel better. Bythe time oyu are past oyur period these levels drop, and oyu go back to low coritls symotoms all the itme. Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 I have heard before import restrictions to NZ are even stricter than those of AU. But even in NZ, Surely you can get common 1% Hydrocortisone cream? It is in the first aid section of pharmacies and grocery stores in the U.S. That is ALL I use for my own HC treatment. sol free2ridejones wrote: > yep can order heaps of stuff but we have sritct guidelines get > medication into the counry past customs. They are really tough. Jus > tneed a list of something to order form. I am in NZ and don't know > where you guys get it from > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 I guess all I can do is give it a go. Hopefully being off NT for a few days might have helped stop making RT3 cycle. Wishful thinking What do you do. T3 makes me terribly tired. I thought it was not long after I took it the tired set in but it is about 6 hours later and it hits hard. I tired to explain to her that even 15mg of NT (which converts to about 9.5mcg T4??) made my symptoms worse and that I went like pea soup in the head, now I am on 50mcg T4. She was not concerned about that, she insisted I have T4 and keep on the T3 but don't increase it. I need something but heck it's hard when you can't get it. I wish you were a doctor over here Val. > > Margo if your RT3 is already too high the T4 will make you feel worse. > If it is able to convert to t3 as it is supposed to you will feel > better. Plain and simple. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Margo, I don't see how T3 could make you tired 6 hrs later. It is all gone by then. T3 has a half life of 1 1/2 hrs according to one source I read. Others say 6 hrs to 1 day. After six hours you are tired because you either it is half gone or you don't have any T3 left in your body. If T4 is going to RT3, that is what makes you tired because it blocks the good T3. Dorothy > What do you do. T3 makes me terribly tired. I thought it was not > long after I took it the tired set in but it is about 6 hours later > and it hits hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Just me I think, I'm a weird chick. I'm so sure it is T3 related as I have tired taking it a little later and it still sets in about 6 hours later. I do however feel it is helping with the mood. Maybe I am object to the fact that it was there and all of a sudden it's not. This might be just a case of getting used to the T3 but I took one of the T4's today and coped a little better with the tiredness. I would perfer not to take it and see how the T3 goes. I am going to try second T3 tonight and see how I feel in the morning. I may just need to experiment a little. The T4 is 50mcg but I think I will quarter them and go in slow. At least that way if I am still converting to RT3 it will only be a small amount. I do very much appreciate the patients everyone has had with me. I just can't thank you guys enough. Margo > > Margo, > I don't see how T3 could make you tired 6 hrs later. It is all gone by > then. T3 has a half life of 1 1/2 hrs according to one source I read. > Others say 6 hrs to 1 day. After six hours you are tired because you > either it is half gone or you don't have any T3 left in your body. If > T4 is going to RT3, that is what makes you tired because it blocks the > good T3. > > Dorothy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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